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Old 06-09-2017, 05:23 AM
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I think there are several different things being discussed here at the same time.

As others have mentioned, I think it's important to make a difference between family events and state events. At family events like birthdays, all children and grandchildren are equal. At state events, they are not, since there is a clear line of succession.

Estelle is going to have a different role than Leonore in the future, just as Victoria and Madeleine knew from early on that they were different. When it comes to the young heirs, it's also clear that Victoria and Daniel has chosen a different path for bringing up Estelle than - as an example - the spanish royals with Leonor or the belgian royals with Elisabeth. Estelle is much more in the public spotlight than the two other royal heirs. I don't know what is right or wrong here (if there is such a thing), but they have clearly different strategies for the young children vs press and public.

Another variable is the adult siblings, in Sweden Carl Philip and Madeleine. I think it's pretty clear what the future will hold here. Madeleine seems quite happy to take several steps back from royal life and live abroad with husband and children. Carl Philip, on the other hand, has taken several steps forward. He's taken on many more royal duties these last years, especially since he married Sofia. I think it's pretty clear that in the future it's Carl Philip and Sofia who will do more or less full time work for the royal family together with Victoria and Daniel, while Madeleine is allowed to take a smaller role.

As far as I can tell, the things mentioned above are not something that the king has decided and then forced the kids/grandkids to do. It's a more or less natural evolvement, and something that all three siblings seem to be happy with. And when we're talking about the National day, it's clearly a state event. Perhaps the other younger children will take part in the celebrations when they are older, but it's the king, along with Victoria and Estelle, that are more in focus here, for obvious reasons.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:09 AM
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That is all great but then why Carl Philip and Madeleine are so often labeled as being lazy? For not representing Sweden enough? For not being so hard-working as Victoria? I don't know why but the [Swedish] media seems to expect that Carl Philip and Madeleine should contribute equally to Victoria and when they don't, they are "cherry picking"?
I haven't seen the swedish media wanting Carl Philip and Madeleine to work as much Victoria. Their roles are very clear and the media understands it. And I haven't seen the swedish media labelling Carl Philip as lazy, not in many years now. After the scandals with his designs he decided to concentrate more on his royal duties. The press and the royal experts criticize Madeleine because she is a HRH and in the line of succession to the swedish throne, as are her children. And she doesn't do "normal" work events in Sweden nowadays, attends only at family events, the Nobel festivities, the National Day and the Opening of the Parliament. Carl Philip works quite much with his patronages and attends events in his duchy, Madeleine could also do that.

A gallery of the king and queen in Kosta Boda.
Kosta 275 år _ Facebook

The Royal Boat made by His Majesty the King of Sweden and glass artist Bertil Vallien is going into the annealing oven.
https://www.facebook.com/kostaboda/p...type=3&theater

There were gorgeous flowers at the Royal Palace on the National Day.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVDQmrKFmt6/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVDRB92lj1X/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVDRLlJFmbd/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVA02Qgj...ungligaslottet

Carl Philip got flowers from Våra barn Foundation
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVApomhB-pH/

People wanted to take photos with Daniel.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVA18G-l3AJ/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVFZ9AYlouH/

Video from Bunte
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Old 06-10-2017, 02:23 AM
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I haven't seen the swedish media wanting Carl Philip and Madeleine to work as much Victoria. Their roles are very clear and the media understands it. And I haven't seen the swedish media labelling Carl Philip as lazy, not in many years now. After the scandals with his designs he decided to concentrate more on his royal duties. The press and the royal experts criticize Madeleine because she is a HRH and in the line of succession to the swedish throne, as are her children. And she doesn't do "normal" work events in Sweden nowadays, attends only at family events, the Nobel festivities, the National Day and the Opening of the Parliament. Carl Philip works quite much with his patronages and attends events in his duchy, Madeleine could also do that.
This was your kind comment about prince Carl Philip and his capability to work more. The same doesn't seem to apply for princess Madeleine who's behind his brother and older sister, not to mention her parents?
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That Carl Philip and Sofia could work more, the king and queen must work less. Or the government must give a lot bigger apanage to the court. It seems obvious that Victoria and Daniel will work more next year than this year when they both have some time of parental leave.
It would be great to see Madeleine more at royal events but that is not the case, especially as she has two young children to take care for. Her living in London and Chris not being interested in "normal royal work" aren't clearly helping either, so she only appears at family events and on different events now and then. I guess we will see what the future will bring for her and if they will move back to Sweden or not. But what is the issue here and especially on her? Has the press and royal experts said it? Is it about money? But its been told more than once that Madeleine and Carl Philip get the money from the King via his apanage when they carry out royal work on his behalf. So no work, no money. When she starts to work more will those experts start to accuse her of being a burden?
It can not be a problem she's not representing the monarch at more official and semi-official events? How many royals should attend one event? Isn't one or two enough for everyday functions and those events are already covered by others. ANd does being a HRH and in the line of succession to the Swedish throne automatically mean that she/he have to fulfil x number of events per year in order to be able to keep the title? Who decides how many representation duties x royal has, especially those who are not the heirs nor heir's heir? The court has made it clear that Victoria and her children are the future of the monarchy, so what "normal" work Madde should do? Visit more sick children and elderly people, and give to poor because her contribution to the Childhood isn't enough?
Sorry that I dont't quite seem to get the problem, so perhaps therefore I can not be so critical toward Madeleine and her lack of "normal royal" work. Perhaps it seems unfair that someone who does not have 9 to 5 work can live in a luxury, wear designer clothes, but then life can be most unfair and grass is always greener on the other side
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Old 06-11-2017, 05:28 PM
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How did I miss National Day this year? Thank you to all those who shared the photos and videos of the annual event.
It's great to see the family there, and good that Madeleine and Chris could make it this year - it still would have been nice to see Leonore and Nicolas there, but I know Leonore can be quite a handful so perhaps she was particularly excitable that day and Madeleine and Chris decided to leave her at home. Carriages can also be potentially dangerous for young children, since they can fall out of them, but I guess they could have avoided the carriage ride and waited in the palace like George and Charlotte of Cambridge do at the British Trooping the Colour.
Anyway, the photos of little Estelle were adorable! She's so sweet, I can see she will make a good royal and queen in the future.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:41 AM
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Swedish gossip magazine Hänt i Veckan writes at their article about the National Day that Victoria had some trouble with her high heels at the grass at Görvälns Castle, but Daniel helped her to keep her balance.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:37 PM
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From Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/BU_kw1elJlA/

Estelle
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCiTKE2XkAEBufm.jpg

From the cortège
http://www.skrivamedljus.se/wp-conte...an-800x534.jpg

By photographer Lars Jonsson
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXF60MTh...-by=fotolinsen

Daniel at GEN-PEP's actitivies, by photographer Pelle T Nilsson.
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Old 08-03-2017, 12:47 PM
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Evelina Barosen from FriTid Knivsta was with GEN-PEP doing activities for children at the Royal Palace on the National Day, and Victoria posed for a photo with Evelina
https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bd&oe=59EAC75B

The king and queen in Kosta

The cortège


Gen-Pep's video of the Open Palace activities, also Daniel playing football
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Old 05-27-2018, 01:34 PM
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June 6, 2018 - Sweden's National Day

So far only these events have been updated to the website of the royal court:

The king and queen open the Royal Palace (Open Palace)
The king and queen attend at the delivery of scholarship awards in the contest "The Thinking Hand".
Kalender - Sveriges Kungahus

At the website of the Royal Palaces it is told, that the king and queen open the Royal Palace/Open Palace at 10.00.
The Crown Princess couple attends the National Day celebration at Strömsholm during the day and in the evening, the entire Royal family attends the celebration at Skansen.
Öppet slott - Kungliga slotten

Program of the Open Palace
Öppet Slott Program 2018

Skansen tells at their website:
The day ends with a festive and star-studded concert at the Solliden scene in the presence of their Majesties the King and Queen with family.
Sveriges nationaldag på Skansen _ Skansen.se

SVT sends the concert at 20.00 and tells at their website:
The Swedish National Day is celebrated traditionally at Skansen, hosted by Anne Lundberg and with the royal family as honorary guests. Darin, Marianne Mörck and David Lindgren, among others, perform on the Solliden scene. Next, live National Day Talk Show with Program Manager Tara Moshizi. The broadcast ends with a Tapto by the Army Music Corps from the Royal Palace.
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Old 05-27-2018, 02:57 PM
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So far only these events have been updated to the website of the royal court:

The king and queen open the Royal Palace (Open Palace)
The king and queen attend at the delivery of scholarship awards in the contest "The Thinking Hand".
Kalender - Sveriges Kungahus

At the website of the Royal Palaces it is told, that the king and queen open the Royal Palace/Open Palace at 10.00.
The Crown Princess couple attends the National Day celebration at Strömsholm during the day and in the evening, the entire Royal family attends the celebration at Skansen.
Öppet slott - Kungliga slotten

Program of the Open Palace
Öppet Slott Program 2018

Skansen tells at their website:
The day ends with a festive and star-studded concert at the Solliden scene in the presence of their Majesties the King and Queen with family.
Sveriges nationaldag på Skansen _ Skansen.se

SVT sends the concert at 20.00 and tells at their website:
The Swedish National Day is celebrated traditionally at Skansen, hosted by Anne Lundberg and with the royal family as honorary guests. Darin, Marianne Mörck and David Lindgren, among others, perform on the Solliden scene. Next, live National Day Talk Show with Program Manager Tara Moshizi. The broadcast ends with a Tapto by the Army Music Corps from the Royal Palace.
Nationaldagen _ SVT Play
Hasn't it been a long time since The King and Queen opened the Palace?
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Old 05-28-2018, 08:03 AM
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Hasn't it been a long time since The King and Queen opened the Palace?
Yes, they opened the Palace in 2008.
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Old 05-28-2018, 10:08 AM
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The program for the Royal Family on the National Day seems quite small compared to previous years. And it is very Stockholm centred.
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Old 05-28-2018, 10:18 AM
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The Royal Family celebrates the National Day 2018

Sweden's National Day is celebrated on Wednesday 6 June. The royal family celebrates this year's National Day in Stockholm and Strömsholm.

Their Majesties The King and Queen open the Open Palace
The Royal Palace is traditionally open to the public with free entry on the National Day. At 10.00 the king and queen open the western gates of the Palace from the Outer courtyard.

Their Majesties The King and Queen, as well as HRH Prince Carl Philip, attend the delivery of scholarship awards
On the National Day there is delivery of scholarship awards in the contest "The Thinking Hand". The king opened the drawing competition in April and Prince Carl Philip has participated in the jury's work. The royal couple and Prince Carl Philip attend the ceremony at the Gustav III's Museum of Antiquities, Royal Palace.
The program starts at. 10.30.

HRH Prince Carl Philip attends the change of the Royal Guards on the Outer Courtyard at the Royal Palace
At 12.00.

TRH The Crown Princess and Prince Daniel visit Strömsholm
The Crown Princess couple's National Day begins with a visit to Strömsholm Palace and the 100th Anniversary of Strömsholmsdagarna (the Strömsholm Days), which is organized by Ridskolan Strömsholm.
The program at Strömsholm starts at 10.00.

The royal family attends the official celebration at Skansen
The royal family leaves the Royal Palace at 17.55 to go at horse-drawn cortege to the National Day celebration at Solliden at Skansen. In connection with the celebration, the King delivers the flags of different associations and federations. The celebration from Solliden scene is broadcasted in Sveriges Television.

National day reception with Tapto at the Royal Palace
In the evening, the royal couple invites representatives of the government, parliament, parts of the diplomatic corps and official Sweden to a National Day reception at the Royal Palace. The evening ends with a Tapto at Logården. The Tapto is broadcasted in Sveriges Television.
Kungafamiljens firande av nationaldagen 2018 - Sveriges Kungahus

And from the calendar we see, that Chris is also listed to attend at the evening events.
Kalender - Sveriges Kungahus
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:41 AM
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The 100th Anniversary of Strömsholmsdagarna (the Strömsholm Days) gets a royal presence during the opening day 6th June. Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel visit both Strömsholm Palace and the event.
During the morning, the Crown Princess couple will come to Strömsholm to join the inauguration of Hästmuseum Strömsholm (Horse museum) at Strömsholm Palace, which opens to the public during the National Day. After that, Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel go to Slottsbanan to attend the opening of Strömsholmsdagarna and the celebration of the National Day.
The Crown Princess couple will also follow Prince Gustaf Adolf's Memorial Jumping, presented by Agria, a 1.45 jumping of which 15 elite riders have been invited to, and the first prize is SEK 20,000.
Kronprinsessan Victoria och Prins Daniel inviger Strömsholmsdagarna – Strömsholm
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Tuuletar, a finnish vocal folk group of four women, performs at the National Day celebration in Strömsholm to Victoria and Daniel.
Venla Blom from Tuuletar tells:
- This came a little by surprise. We have been booked to the event already last winter, but all the time it was only talk about a luncheon concert and a jumping competition. Only in the early part of last week, our agent posted a message that this is a royal event.
- For security reasons, the royal presence could probably not have been told before, Blom says.
The municipality of Hallstahammar belongs to the Finnish-language administrative district, and about 23% of the inhabitants of the municipality have Finnish ancestry. The roots of Prince Daniel are also partly in Savonia, so the Finnish folk music band is well suited to the repertoire. Tuuletar will be the lead performer of the event.
The band describes their musical style as "vocal folk hop".
The royal presence will not change the program of Tuuletar.
- The concert is a concert, whoever is in the audience there, and we are always preparing for it. We've got a wish to sing our "Alku"-song, so we'll sing it at least. Our performance takes only fifteen minutes, so it can hold up about three songs. As far as possible, we strive to bring the influences of Finnish music into play.
Tuuletar sings in Finnish, but the speaks are done in Swedish.
Immediately after the performance of Tuuletar, the Crown Princess gives a speech. Victoria and Daniel are also going to meet the Tuuletar group privately. The members of the band have been considering how the royals should be addressed.
- I'm thinking that we are all people here. I do not take too much pressure, Blom laughs.
Suomalainen Tuuletar-yhtye tapaa Ruotsissa Victorian ja Danielin_ ”Ei paineita, ihmisiä tässä kaikki ollaan”
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Old 06-06-2018, 03:13 AM
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National Day greeting from the Royal Family via princess Estelle and Prince Oscar. Photo taken by photographer Linda Broström.
https://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamil...ea21cb3b8.html

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I wonder if Prince Carl Philip and Princess Madeleine will also do some greetings with their children at their Instagram accounts.
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National Day greeting from the Royal Family via princess Estelle and Prince Oscar. Photo taken by photographer Linda Broström.
https://www.kungahuset.se/kungafamil...ea21cb3b8.html

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https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kun...ldagshalsning/

Wonderful greetings
Lovely small traditional shoes for Estelle

Hope to see pictures from other 5
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Old 06-06-2018, 04:59 AM
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Photos will be updated during the day: Victoria and Daniel in Strömsholm, the king and queen opening the gates to Open Palace, the king, queen and Carl Philip at the delivery of scholarship awards in "The Thinking Hand" drawing competition.
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Victoria and Daniel got a guided tour at Strömsholm Palace.

Victoria och Daniel firar Sveriges dag på Strömsholms slott _ Svensk Damtidning


Victoria and Daniel were taken with a horse carriage to watch the show jumping competitions
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Gallery from Strömsholm, will be updated
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The king and queen opening the Open Palace
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Victoria watches the oak tree she planted 10 years ago.
http://0.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:1...49d&m=jijgecdj

Minoo Akhtarzand, the governor of Västmanland County, attends also at the visit:
http://0.t.cdn.belga.be/belgaimage:1...49d&m=nbeehbgm

Margareta Thorgren about the cortege to Skansen to Expressen:
- All adults in the royal family are included. The plan is also that the Crown Princess couple's two children will go along, confirms Margareta Thorgren.
She adds:
- Then things can always happen that make plans change. That's how it is with children.
Princess Estelle, 6, has been at the cortege before and she thinks it's exciting and fun. Little brother Prince Oscar, 2, is also with on the plans.
- That's something they look forward to. Princess Estelle has attended in the past and the National day is a nice holiday for the whole of Sweden. The weather will help create a little extra festive mood, says Thorgren.
Estelle och Oscar följer med i kortegen till Skansen
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Old 06-06-2018, 06:57 AM
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The program for the Royal Family on the National Day seems quite small compared to previous years. And it is very Stockholm centred.
My parents are by chance visiting Stockholm today. Hopefully, they will have a chance to see the Royal Family live !
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Such sweet photos of Estelle and Oscar, just lovely!

On another note, I'm sure that this has been said before several times in the thread, but I wish that the males in the Swedish royal family would also participate in wearing Swedish national costume and not leave it to the women/girls in the family. Did previous Kings and Princes wear such costumes on the National Day?
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