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Old 10-12-2022, 07:06 PM
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Ok that makes sense as I was also wondering.
Part of taking the throne in the Netherlands requires leaving the military. He was discharged. Unlike Carl Gustav he doesn't have any current rank.

As many veterans do, he will wear it for military events.
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Part of taking the throne in the Netherlands requires leaving the military. He was discharged. Unlike Carl Gustav he doesn't have any current rank.

As many veterans do, he will wear it for military events.
The King has as "rank": the King. He is the only one whom wears the royal insignia (orb, sceptre, sword) on the uniform of a supreme officer:

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It is a missed opportunity for some more ceremonial at the arrival ceremony. Carl XVI Gustaf did his best. Willem-Alexander chose for a boring suit.
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Old 10-13-2022, 12:57 AM
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The King has as "rank": the King. He is the only one whom wears the royal insignia (orb, sceptre, sword) on the uniform of a supreme officer:

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It is a missed opportunity for some more ceremonial at the arrival ceremony. Carl XVI Gustaf did his best. Willem-Alexander chose for a boring suit.
King is not a military rank.

He was officially discharged in 2013. He can for military events wear the uniform of his last rank. Like other veterans. A state visit is NOT a military event so improper for him to wear. Its not a tux.

Carl Gustav and his son are considered active military, they hold current ranks. It is proper for them to wear if they choose.
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Old 10-13-2022, 03:06 AM
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King is not a military rank.

He was officially discharged in 2013. He can for military events wear the uniform of his last rank. Like other veterans. A state visit is NOT a military event so improper for him to wear. Its not a tux.

Carl Gustav and his son are considered active military, they hold current ranks. It is proper for them to wear if they choose.

There are plenty of royals who do not have any active military career but wear fancy uniforms nonetheless. It is really a personal choice of the King to wear an uniform during this State Visit or not, als the welcome ceremony was a very military event anyway.

The Dutch Government holds the supreme command over the Armed Forces. The King is a member of said Government. This would mean that military inside Government would act as "their own supreme commander".

The current Dutch Minister of the Interior is in the same position as her fellow member of Government, the King: she was a commander a Panzer Howitzer battle group in Afghanistan but when she took a seat in Government, she had to lay down her military commissions as well.

With the future Queen Victoria and the future Queen Estelle we will see if their husbands have anything to do with the mlitary. It is possible the use of mlitary uniforms by royals will "fade out" in Sweden as well.
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Old 10-13-2022, 05:41 AM
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The royal couples have arrived to Gothenburg for the last day of the visit.
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Helicopter surveillance, road closures and changes to public transport. These are some of the consequences for the citizens of Gothenburg when Dutch and Swedish royalty are visiting the city.
Trafiken i Göteborg påverkas av kungligt besök _ GP

King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia, in the company of the Dutch royal couple, will visit Volvo and the port of Gothenburg to talk about green transition. But to get to Gothenburg, the royals use the government plane and the day ends with a ceremony at Landvetter Airport.
Kungen och drottning Silvia besöker Volvo och hamnen _ Bohusläningen



Willem-Alexander praised Stockholm yesterday at his speech at the luncheon at the City Hall:
Brief remarks by His Majesty King Willem-Alexander at a lunch hosted by the Mayor of Stockholm, Anna König Jerlmyr, and the President of the City Council of Stockholm, Cecilia Brinck, in Stockholm City Hall _ Speech _ Royal Hou

Willem-Alexander's speech today at a luncheon hosted by the Governor of Västra Götaland County, Sten Tolgfors.
Brief remarks by His Majesty King Willem-Alexander at a lunch hosted by the Governor of Västra Götaland County, Sten Tolgfors, in Gothenburg _ Speech _ Royal House of the Netherlands

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Farewell ceremony at Landvetter Airport.
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Some HQ photos of the visit can be found at Swedish Royal Court's website's press room.

Les princesses Victoria et Sofia rivalisent d’élégance avec la reine Maxima

At the gala dinner
The Director of the information department Margareta Thorgren and Deputy Director of the Information Department Irene Beertema Strömmer
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Prime minister Magdalena Andersson with husband Richard Friberg
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The Royal Family's friends Marcus Wallenberg and wife Fanny Sachs (Ellen Dinkelspiel's mother)
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Juvelerna, gästerna, maten! Så var kungens fest i natt _*Svensk Dam

11-10-2022 State Visit King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima to Sweden Day 1 - Images _ Bernard Rübsamen
12-10-2022 State Visit King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima to Sweden Day 2 - Images _ Bernard Rübsamen
13-10-2022 State Visit King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima to Sweden Day 3 - Images _ Bernard Rübsamen

The King and Queen of Sweden Host State Banquet for the King and Queen of the Netherlands — Royal Portraits Gallery
Crown Princess Victoria Attends State Banquet Hosted in Honour of the King and Queen of the Netherlands — Royal Portraits Gallery
Princess Christina Attends State Banquet Hosted in Honour of the King and Queen of the Netherlands — Royal Portraits Gallery
Princess Sofia Attends State Banquet Hosted in Honour of the King and Queen of the Netherlands — Royal Portraits Gallery
The King and Queen of the Netherlands Visit the City of Stockholm — Royal Portraits Gallery
Crown Princess Victoria Attends Concert Hosted by the King and Queen of the Netherlands — Royal Portraits Gallery
The King and Queen of the Netherlands Host Return Concert for the King and Queen of Sweden — Royal Portraits Gallery
Princess Sofia Attends Concert Hosted by the King and Queen of the Netherlands — Royal Portraits Gallery

Färgfest på slottet under Nederländernas... _ Damernas Värld
Statsbesök från Nederländerna – galamiddag... _ Damernas Värld
Prinsessan Sofias glittersuccé på... _ Damernas Värld

Photos at Life Guards' Facebook
"Over 1,000 soldiers and officers from the Armed Forces were on site yesterday when the King and Queen of the Netherlands arrived in Sweden for a three-day state visit. The elaborate welcome ceremony is a mark of honor to show the visiting head of state respect.
The Life Guards participated with, among other things, music from The Armed Forces' three professional Bands as well as grenadier guard, grenadier company, mounted escort and dragoon guard from the Life Battalion.
In addition, several more of the Life guard's battalions were on site to form hedges along the procession route together with the many other units that were on site."
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Old 10-13-2022, 06:27 AM
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Here are some more photos of the final day today, October 13:


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Old 10-13-2022, 03:26 PM
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Next to the part about Amalia's security situation, Willem-Alexander did also mention during the press meeting that Amalia (godchild) and Victoria (godmother) call each other often - and he really liked the surprise of his goddaughter attending the lunch on the first day.
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Awww...I really liked the video of Queen Maxima trying to console the crying little girl and giving her a flower from her bouquet. What a heart-warming moment!
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Old 10-13-2022, 11:04 PM
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There are plenty of royals who do not have any active military career but wear fancy uniforms nonetheless. It is really a personal choice of the King to wear an uniform during this State Visit or not, als the welcome ceremony was a very military event anyway.

The Dutch Government holds the supreme command over the Armed Forces. The King is a member of said Government. This would mean that military inside Government would act as "their own supreme commander".

The current Dutch Minister of the Interior is in the same position as her fellow member of Government, the King: she was a commander a Panzer Howitzer battle group in Afghanistan but when she took a seat in Government, she had to lay down her military commissions as well.

With the future Queen Victoria and the future Queen Estelle we will see if their husbands have anything to do with the mlitary. It is possible the use of mlitary uniforms by royals will "fade out" in Sweden as well.
Each country has its own rules.


Its not about active duty. Its about being in the military. British royals and such who wear uniform are Still in the military. They hold current ranks. Its why Harry had to have permission to wear an uniform during services for his grandmother. He is only a veteran now, he lost his military ranks.

Daniel will not wear military uniform as its not a costume. He has no military rank. Its not a childish game of dress up.

A state visit is not a military event.


On to actual important events:

I loved the moment between Maxima and the little girl. It was sweet.
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Old 10-14-2022, 09:47 AM
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King is not a military rank.

He was officially discharged in 2013. He can for military events wear the uniform of his last rank. Like other veterans. A state visit is NOT a military event so improper for him to wear. Its not a tux.

Carl Gustav and his son are considered active military, they hold current ranks. It is proper for them to wear if they choose.
I believe King Carl Gustaf holds honorary ranks only and is not considered "active military". His ranks are, however, the highest in the 3 services.

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I wonder if Victoria as Queen will hold honorary ranks in the Armed Forces too.
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I wonder if Victoria as Queen will hold honorary ranks in the Armed Forces too.
I've been thinking about that since I saw the comment above about the "phasing out" of military titles in the Royal family. As we know Victoria undergoes military training every year so I don't find it impossible that she'll get some honorary titles in the future to continue the monarchy s association with the Armed forces. Especially now when the Veteran's day is becoming more and more high-profile and Sweden might join Nato meaning that we in the future will have soldiers in active duty somewhere in the world.
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Information from the various program points during the visit.

From Facebook of The Vasa Museum
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Wallenberg and the royal couple lobbied for Swedish submarines
The Dutch royal couple met their Swedish counterpart and a number of Swedish business leaders at a round table at the Grand Hôtel on Wednesday.
One of the issues that was discussed was submarines, says Jacob Wallenberg, chairman of the board of the Confederation of Swedish Enterprise. Saab hopes to sell this to the country, and will submit a quote soon.
Wallenberg och kungaparet lobbade för svenska ubåtar

The royal houses from the Netherlands and Sweden visited the Host Agency
"The state visit's interest in green innovation shows the international scope of the climate issue"
Kungahusen från Nederländerna och Sverige besökte Värtaverket - Stockholm Exergi

SciLifeLab had the honor to welcome Their Majesties from the Netherlands and Sweden to visit the national research infrastructure SciLifeLab and learn more about technologies to study cells and initiatives for precision medicine.
SciLifeLab welcomes Their Majesties from the Netherlands and Sweden - SciLifeLab

Short video from Gothenburg
https://twitter.com/KGemfeldt/status...05371206045696

Photos from Facebook of the County of Västra Götaland
The first photo is the group photo of the royal couples with Sten Tolgfors, the governor of Västra Götaland County.
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Lindholmen Science Park was first on the program when the Dutch and Swedish royal couples arrived in Gothenburg during the state visit. With interest and curiosity, they were able to learn how Lindholmen's ecosystem drives innovation for increased Swedish competitiveness through the various skills and commitment of a variety of actors.
Kungligheter med passion för innovation _ Lindholmen Science Park

The Dutch royal couple's state visit ended at the Volvo Group, where Queen Máxima in high heels was seen balancing into an excavator.
Both she and husband King Willem-Alexander also got to test drive the truck, before being waved off at a grand farewell ceremony at Landvetter Airport.
Göteborg_ Nederländska kungaparets besök på Volvo

Finnish royal blogger, who lives in Gothenburg, writes at her blog with some good photos, that she received information in advance from the court that the royal ferry would arrive at the Stenpiren pier around 12.00. In the spring, Victoria, Daniel and Haakon also went to hang out at the same place. The governor's residence, where the royals had their luncheon, is located a few hundred meters away.
There was an audience of several hundred people, a large part of the audience clearly got there by accident, because Stenpiren is a hub for public transport. However, the crowd was clearly excited, and almost everyone had small flags handed out by the city representative. Both teenagers and seniors seemed interested in this spectacle, although clearly many had no idea who was expected.
Around 11.40, the police directed the public behind the isolation tape, leaving a wide corridor for the royal entourage between the tape and the opposite bus and tram stops. The blogger got a bit of a bad seat, where she couldn't see the royal couples step out of the ferry, but she could still see all of them as they walked past. She was tactical and went around the travel center to get ahead of the royals during their walk. The little spurt was worth it, and she managed to take a few more photos. Filming is difficult, because there are always a lot of people around the royals, even though the​​audience is separated from them. There are staff, police and journalists around, so it's hard to get good footage. You also don't know in advance whether the royals will stay to greet the audience or just walk by.
Ruotsin ja Alankomaiden kuningasparit Göteborgissa

Style icon Máxima is certainly not easy to compete against, but despite this, many agree that Victoria won the fashion battle this time.
Frossa i glamour! Hon klädde sig bäst under statsbesöket från Nederländerna _*Svensk Dam

Victoria and Willem-Alexander at Arlanda Airport, photo by Henric Wauge.
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Nils van der Poel, swedish speedskater and Olympic Champion in 5000 and 10000 meters at the Olympic Games in Beijing in 2022, was invited to the gala dinner of the state visit. Nils van der Poel has a dutch grandfather.
Van der Poel declined the King's invitation, which he talks about in episode of the Carina Bergfeldt talk show on SVT (recorded last Tuesday).
- It would have been very nice to be able to clone yourself sometimes, but when you need to do that, you often have to look to whom I promised first, and then you have to stand by that word, he says.
- So you refused the King's invitation to come here? Carina Bergfeldt asks.
- Unfortunately, I had to do it, says Nils, and is met with resounding applause and laughter from the audience.
Carina Bergtfeldt seems very pleased with being chosen over the King himself and that the TV-production was out in such good time.
- It was very nice, we are very happy that you are here.
Nils Van der Poels diss mot kungen_ ”Var tvungen” _ Hänt

SPA published a summary video of the state visit just a couple of minutes ago
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