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Actually it is very normal. He also refers to her as the Princess. As well as he refers to his parents as the Kings.  you know, protocol. 
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11-07-2007, 04:53 PM
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It is strange that she calls her husband "the Prince". Maybe Don Filipe but the Prince is really strange. The speach was very short
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it's not strange, it's the protocolar way of addressing other member of the family. the queen refers to the king as "the king" in her speeches and so do the other family members or felipe himself ("the princess"), or any other royal family.
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11-07-2007, 04:57 PM
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The speach was very short
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It was not a very long speech, but definitely not a short one. Well, people might get really hungry if any longer :). Videos and TV programs didn't air the whole speech.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...5-post121.html
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11-07-2007, 05:06 PM
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The speech is a speech very correct and no need to be long to be a good speech but ... Donnak, we all know already Bioquinhas and her/his eagerness to criticize any details of spanish royal family, especially princess Letizia.
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11-07-2007, 05:17 PM
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It is strange that she calls her husband "the Prince". Maybe Don Filipe but the Prince is really strange. The speach was very short
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The proper way to refer to anyone - including family - is to use the title and name that the audience is to use - hence the use of the Prince is correct.
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11-07-2007, 05:19 PM
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Her voice delight me too! she has a beautiful voice
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11-07-2007, 06:16 PM
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The speech is a speech very correct and no need to be long to be a good speech but ... Donnak, we all know already Bioquinhas and her/his eagerness to criticize any details of spanish royal family, especially princess Letizia.
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Why would anyone waste her/his time reading and posting messages about someone she/he dislikes so much?
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11-07-2007, 06:41 PM
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Why would anyone waste her/his time reading and posting messages about someone she/he dislikes so much?
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Chuchu,that is a mystery unsolved  ...anyway you should ask it to she/he 
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11-07-2007, 07:21 PM
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I suppose that when you doesn't like someone, you tries to know more about her(him, just to see if your dislikeness still is justificate. You may always chance your advice about a person reading about her/him...Or simply trying to understand why some persons just loves to death, the person you doesn't like. 
This is what I do. The fact I wouldn't like an historical character wouldn't mean I wouldn't read a book about him/her. Learning more and more is a way of growing up.
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11-07-2007, 07:36 PM
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Chuchu,that is a mystery unsolved ...anyway you should ask it to she/he |
It's a mystery for slnce a while but I has stoped to ask me why because I fear for the answer....! 
Every body who is paying attention a litlle about the spanish protocolar rules knows that when Felipe is referred to his wife in public he said " the Princess" and when Letizia has to speak about her husband in Punlic she has to said " the Prince" . More this point, a detail (!!!!) was one of the most difficult for her to accept until it become a true macanism. The yellow press was very critizing to her for that. But it's true, the protocol is the protocol exactly as the uses are the uses
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11-08-2007, 12:55 AM
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Why would anyone waste her/his time reading and posting messages about someone she/he dislikes so much?
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THANK YOU CHUCHU!  OMG If only everyone tought the same. I just don't get those kind of people who only enter the forum read everything about the person they most deslike and post things only to criticize, I mean.. don't they have anything better to do?. That is such a stupid and inmature attitude, that I will NEVER understand.
That really is the 1 million dollar question chuchu.
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11-08-2007, 05:24 AM
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I suppose that when you doesn't like someone, you tries to know more about her(him, just to see if your dislikeness still is justificate. You may always chance your advice about a person reading about her/him...Or simply trying to understand why some persons just loves to death, the person you doesn't like.
This is what I do. The fact I wouldn't like an historical character wouldn't mean I wouldn't read a book about him/her. Learning more and more is a way of growing up.
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it couldn't have been better said than what vanessa said. i guess it may seem ilogical to check for news on someone you dislike, but some people do that to learn more about it and see if there is something they don't know about that person that may make them change their opinion. there's nothing wrong with that. some people like to learn the reasons behind other's opinions. say, for example, that i don't like princess maxima (just an example, i actually like her very much!), i may like to go into her forum and check why others like her or learn a bit more about her and what she does in order to form a more solid opinion for myself.
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11-08-2007, 06:50 AM
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it couldn't have been better said than what vanessa said. i guess it may seem ilogical to check for news on someone you dislike, but some people do that to learn more about it and see if there is something they don't know about that person that may make them change their opinion. there's nothing wrong with that. some people like to learn the reasons behind other's opinions. say, for example, that i don't like princess maxima (just an example, i actually like her very much!), i may like to go into her forum and check why others like her or learn a bit more about her and what she does in order to form a more solid opinion for myself.
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Your theory makes sense but I do not agree at all with you carlota.Here people can say if they like something or not but bioquinhas is different, I see in her/his a person a little obsessed, negative excess ... This should not be healthy....
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11-08-2007, 07:18 AM
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it couldn't have been better said than what vanessa said. i guess it may seem ilogical to check for news on someone you dislike, but some people do that to learn more about it and see if there is something they don't know about that person that may make them change their opinion. there's nothing wrong with that. some people like to learn the reasons behind other's opinions. say, for example, that i don't like princess maxima (just an example, i actually like her very much!), i may like to go into her forum and check why others like her or learn a bit more about her and what she does in order to form a more solid opinion for myself.
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Unfortunately, that does not seem to be a case here. It does not seem like trying to learn about he person but rather criticizing, albeit not constructively, anything that person does or does not do.
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11-08-2007, 09:12 AM
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Her speech is really nice but her skirt  too much design IMO. Her voice is lovely. Our prayers are answered since she's having more solo events now. Good for her.
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11-08-2007, 12:25 PM
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The proper way to refer to anyone - including family - is to use the title and name that the audience is to use - hence the use of the Prince is correct.
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O.K I know it is protocol but to me it is very strage has they are husband and wife and as we are such a develop countries that don't treat Royals the same way has in the 13 century where kings and qeens rule the world!
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11-08-2007, 01:08 PM
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O.K I know it is protocol but to me it is very strage has they are husband and wife and as we are such a develop countries that don't treat Royals the same way has in the 13 century where kings and qeens rule the world!
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The Middle Age and the Protocol have nothing to do with the fact in an official ceremony a man is calling his wife by her title and the opposite. It's only a question of of civil agreement. Civil agreement is not a ridiculous exchange when you are making a reference to a precise order of a society. It's true, may be it's you who is right and Felipe could call his wife in his speech by " Leti" and Letizia has to ask in her speech for her husband by" Fil"! It's more up to date, isen't it?
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11-08-2007, 01:46 PM
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The Middle Age and the Protocol have nothing to do with the fact in an official ceremony a man is calling his wife by her title and the opposite. It's only a question of of civil agreement. Civil agreement is not a ridiculous exchange when you are making a reference to a precise order of a society. It's true, may be it's you who is right and Felipe could call his wife in his speech by " Leti" and Letizia has to ask in her speech for her husband by" Fil"! It's more up to date, isen't it? |
Oh God no, please let them stick to the civil agreement of calling eachother the prince, and the princess. Can you imagine they start refering to each other with the pet names they call eachother. Letizia calling Felipe, bombon, and Felipe calling letizia some other cute name. That would be utterly cute but totally wrong. It is still an official ceremony, let's not forget about that.
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11-08-2007, 02:07 PM
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Your theory makes sense but I do not agree at all with you carlota.Here people can say if they like something or not but bioquinhas is different, I see in her/his a person a little obsessed, negative excess ... This should not be healthy....
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i thought personal attacks were NOT ALLOWED here. trf exist to post your opinion. biboqunhas has the right to criticize whatever she wishes as long she respect the rules ok?
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11-08-2007, 02:50 PM
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It's a mystery for slnce a while but I has stoped to ask me why because I fear for the answer....!
Every body who is paying attention a litlle about the spanish protocolar rules knows that when Felipe is referred to his wife in public he said " the Princess" and when Letizia has to speak about her husband in Punlic she has to said " the Prince" . More this point, a detail (!!!!) was one of the most difficult for her to accept until it become a true macanism. The yellow press was very critizing to her for that. But it's true, the protocol is the protocol exactly as the uses are the uses |
Youve said it well. Id like to add aomething though, this does not only exist in royalty, but when a prince is referring to a Pm say the prime minister or when someone is referring in public to a military person they would call him with his title ex commander in chief. its onlu out of respect you call by title even if they are a couple
To me, besides protocol, Letizia calling Felipe, Prince in public is respect
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