Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia, Current Events Part 36: June - September 2007

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

I would call this a family vacation what they are doing at the moment

Very mysterious sentence!!!!

[Letizia_guapa]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

I would call this a family vacation what they are doing at the moment

indeed they are having the family vacation, and they deserve it. I felt qiulty for saying: I can't wait to see them at work again.
Hopefully they can enjoy it, but i am sure they will.

[fanprincipesasturi]

El jurado inicia el 17 de septiembre las deliberaciones al Pueblo Ejemplar 2007 con 21 candidaturas

The jury initiates the 17 of September deliberations to Exemplary Town 2007 with 21 candidacies... This initiative of the Foundation has constituted a great success, to which without a doubt it also contributes the fact that he is Prince de Asturias, Felipe de Borbón who goes to the awarded locality to make delivery of the award, which allows that the Prince knows more close by the people and places of the principado , as they establish the objectives that took to the creation of the Foundation Prince of Asturias

[lula]

Let's hope that at least they could have enjoyed of a bit tranquility.

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by lula

Let's hope that at least they could have enjoyed of a bit tranquility.

Understatment, I hope so too for them!

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Now, since quiet three years and a half of wedding, two daughters, and a lot of hours of works together, do you think, as any young couples, that the Princes of Asturias have their own private or quiet private relationship activities by giving dinners or coktails in their House, inviting the representants of the varied fields of the political ( may be not) economical, cultural and social fields of their ages?

I ask this question because I read the Princes of Orange are doing this kind of quiet privite activities to build a network with the actif members of the neerderland society of their ages. As I read the criterium to be invited are absolutly neutral.

I know, as you, that they are invited " en petits comités " by representants of all ages of many fields of interests political, economical, cultural and social in a private or quiet private dinner. In this recption the princes have to show their personnal capacities to heard and speak whithout to have prepared a subject and mainly keeping a great prudence in theirs words

But I think that, as the Kings, the princes of Asturias will avoid to have a court and because of that the kind of private reception has to be very descret and well organised for don't forget anybody.

What do you thing about that ?

[lula]

The Prince of Asturias, already before his wedding, was keeping private meetings and hearings with persons of all the areas, specially people of his generation.

To part of the agenda of official activities, the Princes have private meetings. For example, I remember a private meeting that was made public, because it coincided with the advertisement of the pregnancy of the Princess. It was a luncheon deprived in a hotel with a group of journalists specialists in political information.

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by lula

The Prince of Asturias, already before his wedding, was keeping private meetings and hearings with persons of all the areas, specially people of his generation.

To part of the agenda of official activities, the Princes have private meetings. For example, I remember a private meeting that was made public, because it coincided with the advertisement of the pregnancy of the Princess. It was a luncheon deprived in a hotel with a group of journalists specialists in political information.

Yes you are right. My question was general, a little bite to try to imagine if the Princes are doing their own network of " influence". It's not the good word because it sounds bad, but I want to tell of a netwoork in which they can have the most large vew of the realitie of the country.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by adelaide

My question was general, a little bite to try to imagine if the Princes are doing their own network of " influence". It's not the good word because it sounds bad, but I want to tell of a netwoork in which they can have the most large vew of the realitie of the country.

They will need it to survive. JC had and still has his and Felipe will need one of his own because he is a different character in a society that has moved on, compared to his father.

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

They will need it to survive. JC had and still has his and Felipe will need one of his own because he is a different character in a society that has moved on, compared to his father.

Yes, it's absolutly obvious. But, as you know, in Spain it's difficult for a crownprince to have his own influence network because all the networks yet existing. It's the reason why my question is very general and as you say they will need it to survive, but I was looking for a more precise answer.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by adelaide

Yes, it's absolutly obvious. But, as you know, in Spain it's difficult for a crownprince to have his own influence network because all the networks yet existing. It's the reason why my question is very general and as you say they will need it to survive, but I was looking for a more precise answer.

It a very difficult issue that lula has already mentioned earlier in terms of an own office. Felipe needs his own influence network etc but is always somehow limited by his father. It's a thin line between aiming for a bit of independence that his position not only deserves but needs for survival, and interfering with JC's circle and issues - he is the person who pays the band so he's entitled to call the tune. It's only human that there are differences between Felipe's and JC's opinions or the way they like to handle things and it will become more obvious the more grown up Felipe gets. Who wants to be trained all his life and still do what Daddy says in his mid forties or fifties? Not easy for Felipe as a dissent between him & JC becoming public could have consequences for the monarchy.

[mapian]

Adelaide, your question can be answer for the article from "Capital" spanish magacine, I copied it, but in Spanish, sorry.

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Encuentros discretos con empresarios y sindicalistas

En su residencia oficial de Madrid, próxima a la que ocupan los Reyes de España, el Príncipe suele recibir a empresarios que despuntan. Lo mismo hace con otros profesionales, también con sindicalistas. Es verdad que sus tareas oficiales se desarrollan en el palacio de La Zarzuela, a la sombra del Rey, pero no lo es menos que es creciente su trabajo -discreto- en su propia casa, donde organiza cafés, almuerzos y cenas, todas ellas reservadas y rara vez conocidas por la prensa y la opinión pública. Es el camino que desea seguir un hombre casi pudoroso que no se cansa de intercambiar impresiones, pensando en desempeñar un buen papel y sin que se le vea afán de protagonismo. Aunque a veces es inevitable."

[lula]

Originally Posted by mapian

Adelaide, your question can be answer for the article from "Capital" spanish magacine, I copied it, but in Spanish, sorry.

In English ... Capital is a magazine of economy

Discreet meetings with businessmen and syndicalist

In his official residence of Madrid, near that the Kings of Spain occupy, the Prince is in the habit of receiving businessmen who appear. The same thing does with other professionals, also with syndicalist. It is true that his official tasks develop in the palace of la Zarzuela, in the shade of the King, but it it is not less that his work is increasing - discreet - in his own house, where he organizes coffees, luncheons and dinners, all of them reserved and rarely known by the press and the public opinion. It is the way that wants to follow an almost modest man who does not get tired of exchanging impressions, thinking of recovering a good role and without one sees zeal of protagonism. Though sometimes it is inevitable. "

[adelaide]

Originally Posted by lula

In English ... Capital is a magazine of economy

Discreet meetings with businessmen and syndicalist

In his official residence of Madrid, near that the Kings of Spain occupy, the Prince is in the habit of receiving businessmen who appear. The same thing does with other professionals, also with syndicalist. It is true that his official tasks develop in the palace of la Zarzuela, in the shade of the King, but it it is not less that his work is increasing - discreet - in his own house, where he organizes coffees, luncheons and dinners, all of them reserved and rarely known by the press and the public opinion. It is the way that wants to follow an almost modest man who does not get tired of exchanging impressions, thinking of recovering a good role and without one sees zeal of protagonism. Though sometimes it is inevitable. "

Many thanks for this article, Capital is a serious magazine in its category. In fact, I have read some aticles about this item, but as I forgot when, I was looking for some advices about that because as say with elegancy Duke of Marmelade they have to do if they want to survive.....

[lucys]

On September 3, the Prince and Princess will inaugurate a UN conference on desertification to be attended by representatives from over 190 countries.

Representantes 191 países impulsarán en Madrid medidas contra desertificación

[lula]

Thank you lucys. Already news starts appearing on next activities of the Princes, it seems that the autumn will be intense.

[Ccile]

great news!!!

We're going to see them a lot during the autumn!!!! they must enjoy their holidays with their 2 beautiful daughters because they'll be very busy in a couple of weeks!!! they're right to stay away from photographs!!!

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by lucys

On September 3, the Prince and Princess will inaugurate a UN conference on desertification to be attended by representatives from over 190 countries.

Representantes 191 países impulsarán en Madrid medidas contra desertificación

That's good news but I wonder if they will attend Willem Alexander's 40th birthday party the weekend before (1st & 2nd September).

[Ccile]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

That's good news but I wonder if they will attend Willem Alexander's 40th birthday party the weekend before (1st & 2nd September).

perhaps but it will be a big surprise because they don't seem to participate so much to royal birthdays (like the one of the queen of Norway etc...)

[lula]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

That's good news but I wonder if they will attend Willem Alexander's 40th birthday party the weekend before (1st & 2nd September).

Yes, the most probable thing is that to the being a celebration of a Prince Inheritor, the Princes attend. But Zarzuela will consider it to be a private act, so until that day (if the Dutch Royal House does not give before a list of assistants) we will not know anything.

The Royal Family says goodbye officially of Majorca on the 28th.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by lula

Yes, the most probable thing is that to the being a celebration of a Prince Inheritor, the Princes attend. But Zarzuela will consider it to be a private act, so until that day (if the Dutch Royal House does not give before a list of assistants) we will not know anything.

I think they will do although it will be seen as a private act from the dutch side as well, so they might go but we won't see pics. WA turned 40 already in April but they moved the celebrations to that weekend as Maxima (and her peers, btw) were pregnant / had just given birth. Can we expect a similar party when Felipe turns 40 next January?