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12-06-2005, 01:01 PM
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An article from "Cronica" written by Jaime Pańafiel. Could any Spanish-speaking member write what it is about? I have some strange feeling that it isn't worth translating the whole.
http://www.elmundo.es/suplementos/cr...133650816.html
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12-06-2005, 01:26 PM
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After suffering the torture of reading Peñafiel, which every time is boring, I tell you. Only ihe comments on it of the book of these two journalists opportunists, though commenting on it without getting into the topic into depth. Also he comments that the people of Zarzuela worked very well with Leonor's birth.
Then he speaks on the royalty and the arrears, when they come late to the acts. Not interesting at all.
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12-06-2005, 01:36 PM
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May be, it's time to Penafiel to be retired, except if he needs money like the others Uruburus ( garbage's beards eaters )....
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12-06-2005, 03:27 PM
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he talks about not knowing anything of leonor since her birth although it has been a month. he then mentions anecdotes on royals and time (the only time queen elizabeth was late for 10 minutes, also mentions pope benedict, queen sofia and king juan carlos, william in his first time working in the bank...).
in the chss section, where he never says the name of the person he talks about, there's a clear paragraph about felipe and letizia and the birth, that explains how a couple told felipe (supposedly) their congratulations in the theatre and he told them lots of details of the birth and the time in the hospital and said it was hard for letizia as she had never even "broke her foot in her life". i thought that was funny and a good anecdote.
he also mentions sonsoles (first lady of spain) in that section without mentioning her name who is supposedly spending a more money than the assigned for zapatero, the prime minister.
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12-06-2005, 04:15 PM
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After suffering the torture of reading Peñafiel, which every time is boring, I tell you. Only ihe comments on it of the book of these two journalists opportunists, though commenting on it without getting into the topic into depth. Also he comments that the people of Zarzuela worked very well with Leonor's birth.
Then he speaks on the royalty and the arrears, when they come late to the acts. Not interesting at all.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry lula that I caused this torture!  Will you ever forgive me?
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12-07-2005, 06:32 AM
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Felipe and Letizia is sending letters to glad all congratulations their recieve for his daughter Leonor.
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12-07-2005, 08:03 AM
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Can anybody bring it here?
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12-07-2005, 09:47 AM
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I think I wouldn't be too unfaithful if I said that some of our members have told me they had recieved one of those letters... perhaps they could share them with us...
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12-07-2005, 10:17 AM
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I love the name Leonor. I think it is very nice to have a traditional and historic name esp. when you are talking about royalty. 
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Honestly, I dont like the name Leonor for a Queen or Infanta of Spain..It sounds like a name of an old wicked lady..just my opinion, no offence meant..I think the name Isabela has more historical importance and much appealing for a Spanish reigning Queen..just my opinion..Anyways, i respect the decision of the Prince and Princess of Asturias in terms of naming their first daughter..and whatever name the Infanta has, it cannot withstand her beauty..she is really a beautiful baby..
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12-07-2005, 11:08 PM
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From El País:
The last picture of Infanta Leonor.
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12-08-2005, 04:13 AM
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http://www.abc.es/abc/pg051208/prens...AC-MAD-212.asp
Aguirre gives a Bethlehem to Dona Leonor
MADRID. It will come in a trunk of wood, to the former usage, and either any detail nor scene will be absent. Next week, the Community of Madrid will make come to the daughter of the Princes of Asturias, Dona Leonor, which, with complete certainty, will be her first Bethlehem.
Realized by Belenistas's Association of Madrid for order of the regional chairwoman, Esperanza Aguirre, it is clear of 90 figures of 9 centimeters of height that they recreate all the scenes.
For its assembly it will be necessary to possess a surface superior to the meter and I happen where they will not be absent the moss - that it will have to be a supply every Christmas-, the star, the clouds, the trunks of cork, the paper-stone... These elements also will travel in the trunk of wood that, to remember the event, will possess an exterior commemorative plate.
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12-09-2005, 03:09 AM
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http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/ed_berg...&TEXTO=4325635#
A royal bib
Pupils and teachers of the college Virxe da Barca of Muxía, in that 54 children study girls of less than eight years, they decided that more the babies need it is a bib, for what a few weeks ago elaborated one it to be sent to Leonor, the first daughter of the Princes of Asturias. The gift was of carton and paper and was taking printed the fingerprints of all the pupils of the center. Since the small infanta is not still to answer to the obsequiousnesses it was done for her by his parents, the prince Felipe de Borbón, and the princess Letizia Ortiz.
Of their fist and letter they sent a nice note to the center. It says: " Many graces for the gift that we have received and for sharing with us the happiness of the birth of our daughter Leonor " and it is signed by the proud dads.
In the college the letter has thrilled even those who are not considered to be monarchic. Probably the rapid response of Zarzuela the should to the good recollections that Letizia Ortiz took to herself of the Coast Morte when still she was employed at television and they sent it to report on the disaster of the Prestige, now three years ago.
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12-09-2005, 04:50 PM
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http://es.news.yahoo.com/051209/4/4gc0u.html
The Chamber of Trade of Cuenca has presented today the gifts that will be sent to Infanta Leonor, within the next couple of weeks: a wooden pony rocking horse and an album of photos. Both gifts have been made at the carpentry and restoration factories of the Infantas de España Occupational Centre.
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12-09-2005, 04:59 PM
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May be, it's time to Penafiel to be retired, except if he needs money like the others Uruburus ( garbage's beards eaters )....
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I read some of the articles Penafiel wrote in spanish about Letizia and his comments were so cruel toward her and her family I could not believe he got away with it. He even ridiculed Leti's grandparents as if it was a crime being a working class family. His days as the Royal insider tolerated by king Juan Carlos are certantly over.
And yet, he predicted that if the first born was a girl she would rule regarldess of the Constitutional change because the Spaniards won't allow her throne to be taken away by a younger male sibling. Only with that he got me on his corner, the rest that comes out of his articles is just venom capable of making a cobra comatose just by sliding over the printed article.
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12-10-2005, 01:40 AM
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please don't use " the last picture of ..." it s look like ...Use the newest piture of leonor
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12-10-2005, 08:25 AM
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I read some of the articles Penafiel wrote in spanish about Letizia and his comments were so cruel toward her and her family I could not believe he got away with it.
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Neither can I!... The last time he publically opened his mouth to criticise Letizia, he compared her to the new generation of Princesses, to say that they are distroying the monarchies and he even dared to literally call Mette-Marit "a former prostitute that can not be queen of a serious country"!...
And he says these things, the people listen to him and he just goes away with it! I'm all in favour of freedom of speech, but I can't stand some people's incapacity to distinguish between "freedom" and "anarchy". The fact that we have freedom of speech doesn't give us the right to say anything that crosses our mind, no matter if they are true or not and no matter what the consequencies are. I believe that freedom actually should give us responsabilities and obligations and this guy isn't worth of this conquest that has costed so many sacrifices to so many noble men and women, throughout the History!
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12-10-2005, 08:36 AM
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Neither can I!... The last time he publically opened his mouth to criticise Letizia, he compared her to the new generation of Princesses, to say that they are distroying the monarchies and he even dared to literally call Mette-Marit "a former prostitute that can not be queen of a serious country"!...
And he says these things, the people listen to him and he just goes away with it! I'm all in favour of freedom of speech, but I can't stand some people's incapacity to distinguish between "freedom" and "anarchy". The fact that we have freedom of speech doesn't give us the right to say anything that crosses our mind, no matter if they are true or not and no matter what the consequencies are. I believe that freedom actually should give us responsabilities and obligations and this guy isn't worth of this conquest that has costed so many sacrifices to so many noble men and women, throughout the History!
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I totally agree with you, Elsa M. The freedom of speech doesn't give to one the right to say whatever he wants, even if it appears to be false and insulting.
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12-10-2005, 09:00 AM
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Sometimes you listen to his commentaries and how woman you feel totally degraded, he judges the attitudes of the women but not those of the men. If the Princesses have had relations before he hints that they are almost prostitutes, according to him a Queen has to be a virgin. But he does not think of the Princes that they can have relations.
He is terrible, is sexist and class.
He has remained in a world of 30 years ago, in it and in all his information.
In Spain there is a problem with prominent figures as Peñafiel or those who have written the book on Leonor, how they are critical and create polemic appear in television. The people nowadays believe herself everything what they say in television and repeat dark brown how, but they neither think they do not even think over the things. These prominent figures can say lies, which there should be demonstrated that they say them ... but weeks after will return to speak, to say false things and the people will turn them to listening.
The television is very bad, and there is a series of programs of " pink information " where only it costs the rumor and the scandalous news. Where they treat equally the Princes of Asturias and an artist of proven professionalism ... that to someone who has gone out of Big Brother or who has gone to bed with one famous. They respect more to whom tells his life and receives thousands of Euros for it, that to people who has a worthy life.
The real profesionals how singers and actors already do not go to these programs, and every time they grant fewer interviews to the magazines, us condemning to that the information is led by persons who do not do anything.
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12-10-2005, 11:45 AM
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Finally i can write in the forum again ... so i just want to say, thant Leonor is an adorable baby, that born with the same size and havy than i have when i born, and thans for all the pics, they are adorable.
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12-10-2005, 03:05 PM
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AWWWWWWWW! That picture above of Felipe holding Leonor has made my day! So adorable and sweet-a great picture.
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