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04-10-2012, 10:14 AM
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Glad he's okay; this could have been tragic.
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04-10-2012, 10:31 AM
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Spanish King Juan Carlos' grandson shoots himself in foot - Telegraph
I wonder what will happen here, in other countries the police would be all over the place and for sure charges would be pressed against the parents for giving a minor access to firearms and they would be lucky if they escaped with a fine, instead of losing their license to hold firearms in the first place. Lets wait & see if everyone is equal with regard to the law, including the Borbon family. Froilan could easily have been killed if the gun hadnt pointed to the ground, or killed somebody else.
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The hospital notified the court, according to the law, and now they will open an investigation. I do not think Jaime de Marichalar will escape the fine and withdrawal of the arms license.
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04-10-2012, 10:34 AM
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 Maybe the weapon doesnt belong to Jaime but to other family members. Whoever the holder is, he will be responsible.
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04-10-2012, 10:59 AM
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...the two ladies are all smiles...the Queen has said "estaban de caza" y que "con los niños siempre pasa eso". She said "with Children always happen this...? I cannot understand how can the Qeen said this... this is a very serious thing that should not be ignore...and it seams that both ladies are trying to ignore...
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04-10-2012, 11:15 AM
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Why was a 13 year old holding a gun in the first place?  Looks like, the Borbons insist on not learning from the past.
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04-10-2012, 11:52 AM
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Why was a 13 year old holding a gun in the first place?  Looks like, the Borbons insist on not learning from the past. 
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They are Marichalar, not Borbon. The accident was on the estate of Marichalar family and when the child was under the care of his father.
Really we do not know which is the opinion of the infanta, if she agrees with that her ex husband teaches the boy to shoot or not. The infanta has emphasized that the child was with his father. Evidently she is not going to criticize the father of her children in front of the press, though their relation seems that it is not precisely good, after the divorce. Queen Sofía has the attitude that has always when there is a problem, smiles and tries to diminish the importance of the things.
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04-10-2012, 12:06 PM
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04-10-2012, 02:25 PM
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04-10-2012, 02:41 PM
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Spanish King Juan Carlos' grandson shoots himself in foot - Telegraph
I wonder what will happen here, in other countries the police would be all over the place and for sure charges would be pressed against the parents for giving a minor access to firearms and they would be lucky if they escaped with a fine, instead of losing their license to hold firearms in the first place. Lets wait & see if everyone is equal with regard to the law, including the Borbon family. Froilan could easily have been killed if the gun hadnt pointed to the ground, or killed somebody else.
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It probably wouldn't have been a problem in the United States or Canada. Laws vary by state or province, but generally anyone over 12 can shoot targets or skeet. Younger kids can shoot with adults present. (Hunting rules vary more by location and game.)
But, that's clearly not the law in Spain... Between Inaki's problems and Jaime letting the kids handle guns, the king must be wishing he'd put his daughters into a convent! :-)
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04-10-2012, 03:13 PM
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The king's grandson is okay right? And whats this of a reminder of the day..?
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04-10-2012, 03:33 PM
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It probably wouldn't have been a problem in the United States or Canada. Laws vary by state or province, but generally anyone over 12 can shoot targets or skeet. Younger kids can shoot with adults present. (Hunting rules vary more by location and game.)
But, that's clearly not the law in Spain... Between Inaki's problems and Jaime letting the kids handle guns, the king must be wishing he'd put his daughters into a convent! :-)
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In Europe its very strict. Usually there would be charges pressed against the owner of the weapon (each weapon needs to be registered) for causing bodily injury by negligence. For sure he would be subject to a fine but most likely the owner will lose the license to have weapons alltogether. The owner is responsible for the weapon and its a serious offence to give access to someone else, let alone a minor.
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04-10-2012, 03:40 PM
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04-10-2012, 05:07 PM
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You never walk around with your finger on the trigger of any gun. Thank goodness it appears he is not seriously hurt. And this should be a wake up call to all Royal parents about teaching children about safety first before using anything as dangerous as a gun.
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04-10-2012, 05:27 PM
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04-10-2012, 06:40 PM
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Obviously it's quite disturbing that a such thing has happened (especially because he's under age), but thank god that nothing more serious happened. I'm glad to hear that Felipe is alright.
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04-10-2012, 07:13 PM
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Poor little Froilan! I hope he feels better very soon!!!
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04-10-2012, 07:50 PM
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poor felipe juan froilan!!! nice to see the little leonor and sofia in hospital.
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