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Old 12-03-2014, 09:04 PM
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I don't know. The Bonaparte are monarchists and Republicans?
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They can't be consider a real Royal Family because they were just people who served the republic and then proclaimed themselves Emperors.
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Well, since they are included in the Almanach de Gotha & listed under the royal families in the 1st part, I am sure that they are not the only ones considering themselves as such.
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Both Prince Jean Christophe Napoléon and his father Charles Bonaparte were interviewed by Belgian television during their attendance at the 200th anniversary commemoration of the Battle of Waterloo. Among other things, they emphasized their connection to Belgium through their ancestress Princess Clementine, the youngest daughter of King Leopold II. It was also made clear that there is no disagreement between the father and son as to who is the Head of the Imperial House (i.e. that it is Prince Jean-Christophe).

Waterloo, 200 ans: un descendant de Napoléon s'est rendu Ã* Waterloo - Vidéo - RTL Vidéos
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But his father is very alive why is Jean-Christophe and not his father Charles Head of the Imperial House?

Thank you for this Benjamin. Very interested . Except if Charles Napoleon he change his mind again.

And Jean-Christoph is true bonapartist ? I can imagine what the woman he is married .
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Old 06-20-2015, 03:44 AM
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Hi eya,

A good summary of this topic can be found at the following archived discussion board alt.talk.royalty:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!se...A/sElRp_8JvEMJ
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But his father is very alive why is Jean-Christophe and not his father Charles Head of the Imperial House?
However it is silent around the Bonapartist movement, bonapartism had (like carlism, gaullism, falangism) a very, very conservative moral with a desire for a "strongman" (or a dictator, if you want). The Carlist movement is even more reactionary, with ultra-catholic views.

Prince Charles Napoléon had more liberal views and he was shoved aside by "true bonapartists".

Prince Carlos Hugo de Bourbon de Parme had more liberal views and he was shoved aside by "true carlists".

Infante Don Juan de Borbón had more liberal views and he was shoved aside by "true falangists".

Not royal but more or less the same: Marine Le Pen holds eeeeeehmmm... somewhat more "liberal" views (or that is her façade) than her father Jean-Marie Le Pen. Father wants to shove daughter away because he sees her as a "traitor" of his right-wing conservative ideals.

Needless to say that this is often disastrous, such internal feuds inside one family.
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Old 06-20-2015, 04:23 AM
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They can't be consider a real Royal Family because they were just people who served the republic and then proclaimed themselves Emperors.
Prince Jean-Christope has more blue blood than many of today's royals.

Parents:
Charles Bonaparte, prince Napoléon
Béatrice de Bourbon, princesse des Deux Siciles

Grandparents:
Louis Bonaparte, prince Napoléon
Alix (des comtes) de Foresta
Ferdinand de Bourbon, Prince des Deux Siciles
Chantal (des comtes) de Chevron de Villette

Great-grandparents:
Victor Bonaparte, prince Napoléon
Clémentine, princesse de Belgique
Albéric comte de Foresta
Geneviève Fredet
Rainier de Bourbon, prince des Deux Siciles
Maria Carolina comtesse Zamoyska
Joseph-Pierre de Chevron, comte de Villette
Marie de Colbert du Cannet

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I found Google groups - a good explanation, between Jean and Charles.
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And Jean-Christoph is true bonapartist ? I can imagine what the woman he is married .
I don't know if Prince Jean-Christoph is a true bonapartist. Maybe he is, maybe he is not. His father openly flirted with "liberal" ideas and that did cost him the support of the "true bonapartists".

Maybe Prince Jean-Christophe is in his heart a liberal man, a social-democrat even. We don't know. But the difference: he keeps his mouth shut, he does nothing controversial, not for the common public and not for the conservative bonapartists. 'Speech is silver; silence is golden'...

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Besides they must the name of Imperial House to continue.
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And Jean-Christoph is true bonapartist ? I can imagine what the woman he is married .

Although not yet married, the Prince Napoléon has been in a relationship with Gräfin Olympia von Arco for several years.
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I remember there were rumours that he also dated Princess Alix of Ligne - which is a little bit ironic, as she's a descendant of the House of Orleans.
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Although not yet married, the Prince Napoléon has been in a relationship with Gräfin Olympia von Arco for several years.
I find a picture of them. Very beuatiful and muching couple.
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An interview with Jean Christophe that he gave to Paris Match shortly before attending the bicentenary:

Bicentenaire de Waterloo - Jean-Christophe Napoléon. Sans rancune !
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I remember there were rumours that he also dated Princess Alix of Ligne - which is a little bit ironic, as she's a descendant of the House of Orleans.
Indeed, though, in his person, the prince unites the blood of the Bonapartes as well as that of the elder Bourbons and the Orleans.
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Indeed, though, in his person, the prince unites the blood of the Bonapartes as well as that of the elder Bourbons and the Orleans.
And if he ends up marrying his current girlfriend, a descendant of the Austrian Emperors, the lineage of the House of Bonaparte will become even more interesting.

According to some Brazilian monarchist circles, Princess Alix was also rumored to have dated Prince François of Orleans (the now Count of Dreux) and even Prince Amedeo of Belgium. Both are now married.

The Princess will be 31 in two weeks. I expect she'll soon marry (and marry well, I hope).
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Prince Jean-Christophe Napoléon has released via social media the following message after the terrorist attacks in Paris:

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Toutes mes pensées et prières aux victimes de ces actes cruels de barbarie contre nos valeurs universelles. Face à la terreur, la France restera forte et unie. ‪#‎LibertéEgalitéFraternité‬ ‪#‎PrayForParis‬
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Prince Jean-Christophe Napoléon was made an honorary citizen of London at a dinner to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo:

Le prince Jean-Christophe Napoléon, citoyen d'honneur de la ville de Londres - Noblesse & Royautés

Many other royals were also in attendance.
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Prince Jean-Christophe Napoléon was made an honorary citizen of London at a dinner to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo:

Le prince Jean-Christophe Napoléon, citoyen d'honneur de la ville de Londres - Noblesse & Royautés

Many other royals were also in attendance.

Don't think I've read an article the last few years about J-C without at least one Arco-Zinnenberg being mentioned. Any update on the status of his relationship with Olympia?


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