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Old 12-03-2018, 03:45 PM
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Well, Iceland was initially independent and settled by outlaws and people who did not wish to conform to the growing powers of kings in the northern countries, so what we today would call political refugees were also among the settlers.
Despite the, to put it mildly, very different kinds of people settling in Iceland in the 8-900's they did in fact develop the first true democracy in Europe north of the Alps.
But by the 1100's that had ended, because by then Iceland came under the Norwegian throne.
In the 1300's the Scandinavian Kalmar Union under Queen Margrethe I was formed, and when that broke apart, Norway ended up under the Danish throne. Norway and Denmark was officially and dual monarchy, but in reality Norway was a province in the Danish realm, and so was Iceland. Now detached from Norway administratively speaking.

In 1814 Denmark for various reasons ended up being one of the last allies of Napoleon. Our arch-enemy Sweden backed the winning side and wanted their spoils - Norway!
The Norwegians weren't at all keen on changing allegiance from Denmark to Sweden. they wanted independence and tried to fight back, they were overwhelmed.
However, Sweden did not get Iceland!
Some powers (Britain in particular) were not all displeased with seeing Denmark and Norway being separated, but there was no reason to make Sweden too powerful, so Iceland remained with Denmark.

There was some independence movement in Iceland by the beginning of the 1900's. And IRRC Iceland had de facto autonomy.
Then Denmark was invaded in 1940.
The Allies, meaning Britain did not want Iceland to be occupied by Germany! So Britain occupied Iceland and the Faeroe Islands. Later on the Americans took over in Iceland.
Not knowing when the war would end, or even who would win, the Icelandic independence movement grew stronger and by 1944, no doubt "not discouraged" by USA, Iceland declared itself independent and a republic.
That led Christian X to feel somewhat bitter. He felt that by 1944 it was clear who would win and couldn't the Icelanders wait until the war was over and then seek independence so that the two countries would separate more amiably?
But the political realities were of course to be considered. After all there was no agreement on which side of the Iron Curtain Denmark would end up in. It was literally first come. Fortunately for Denmark the German forces in DK surrendered to Field Marshall Montgomery. But had the Soviets been more successful, they might have "liberated" Denmark...
That meant that Iceland would for all practical purposes have ended up as a US protectorate, along with the Faeroe Islands and Greenland. The island was and is too important strategically. - In fact it may only be a matter of time before the NATO Base is Iceland is reopened.

The political realities were as they were after WWII, so DK and Iceland established very friendly relations. Icelanders wishing a higher education went to Denmark at studied at universities here. And for decades after WWII Danish as such remained the second language taught in Iceland.
Today Iceland is a wealthy country with a very well-educated population and they have become much more international in regards to where they get the education they can't get in Iceland.

Today Iceland is one of the three countries closest to DK, and as such also one of the three countries that a new regent couple visit first officially. So when M&F take over, one of the first state visits will go to Iceland.
There are still very strong bonds between Iceland and Denmark and Norway. During the Cod-War between Britain and Iceland in the 1970, there were actually serious calls in Norway and Denmark to send our navies to assist the Icelandic coast guard.
Tak for the fascinating history lesson Muhler This is probably veering some what off topic but as a result of Iceland being a small country, are there a lot of Icelandic international students at Danish/Norwegian/Swedish universities and schools?
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Old 12-03-2018, 04:20 PM
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Tak for the fascinating history lesson Muhler This is probably veering some what off topic but as a result of Iceland being a small country, are there a lot of Icelandic international students at Danish/Norwegian/Swedish universities and schools?
You are welcome.

I must admit, that I don't know.
There must be quite a few here in DK, because when the Icelandic economy broke down a some years ago, the Icelandic students were suddenly left pretty much without means and that of course hit the news.

The Icelandic economy has rebounded BTW and the Icelandic individuals who were profiteers (that I believe is the appropriate term for those within especially the finance sector, whose greed was a large part of causing the recent financial crisis) were prosecuted. Something similar should IMO have happened in the rest of the world as well...

Summary of article in Billed Bladet #49, 2018.
Written by our reporter in the north, Trine Larsen.

In 1918, Iceland became independent, in the sense that it got it's own government and right to carry out it's own foreign policy, while remaining a part of the commonwealth of the Danish realm, with the Danish monarch as head of state. - Akin to say Canada before WWI.

It was bitterly cold and windy in Iceland! so QMII had prudently put on a long mink coat for the ceremony outside the government building in the capital of Reykjavik.
The Icelanders are of course used to the weather, but as our reporter observed, no one had apparently prepared QMII for the icy wind, so that she could have put on a hat and scarf. Nor had a screen been erected to shield her from the wind. - That may explain the Icelandic President's obvious concern for QMII. He offered her his knitted but QMII declined with a laugh. But at least she had a blanket. And here she sat for more than 20 minutes, amid growing concerns for her comfort, it seems.
The event took place outside, in order to involve as many Icelanders as possible. IIRC about half of the roughly 350.000 Icelanders live in or around Reykjavik.
QMII's comment afterwards was:
"Yeah, it was quite windy.
To me it's a very big occasion... and nice that they wanted me to take part in this celebration. It's a historical day for Iceland, no question about that."

QMII impressed by being in fine shape and in good spirits, she was after all on for more that fifteen hours in a row.

In fact QMII flew in in the forenoon and started the whole thing with a visit to a museum.
Then it was time for a lunch before being cooled off in front of the government building.
Then it was inside for no doubt some needed warmth at the National Gallery, Listasafn Islands.
Then off to Veröld for a meeting with the former Icelandic president, Vigdis Finnbogadottir (*) who runs her own research institute for foreign languages. (**)
Vigdis Finnbogadottir was IIRC the world's first female president.
That included a tour of the place and presenting of a couple of awards.
After that QMII was the guest of honor at a dinner at the residence of the Icelandic President, Guoni Johannesson.
That included a number of merry speeches, before the evening ended with a gala performance at the concert hall Harpa in downtown Reykjavik. Here QMII gave a speech and presented a 400 page book with handwritten notes about the thoughts and concerns Christian X had when Iceland became a republic in 1944.

I guess it was pretty wasted QMII who flew back to DK!

(*) The Icelanders use the charming gender variation of their surnames. So women call themselves XXdottir = daughter. While men call themselves XXson.
May that practice never be abandoned.

(**) The Icelanders do what they can to preserve their old-norse style language.
That include using compounding existing words when they need a new word.
So they came up with an entire new word when the satellite (parabolic) dish was introduced, because neither satellite nor parabolic had words in Icelandic.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:03 PM
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BRF Court Circular 6th December

HRH The Duchess of Gloucester this evening attended a Dinner in the presence of The Queen of Denmark at the Dorchester Hotel, 53 Park Lane, London W1, to celebrate the formation of the Danish-UK Association.
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:07 PM
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Thank you Cepe, and that is exactly what this BB video is about:
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...-fest-i-london
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Old 12-07-2018, 01:17 PM
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How nice. She always participates in events around London during her December vacations.
Probably from her visit to Iceland went directly to London, as Frederik has been regent, with Joachim currently being regent while Frederik completes his visit to Latvia, and then Frederik again regent until the 10th
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Frederik has been regent, with Joachim currently being regent while Frederik completes his visit to Latvia, and then Frederik again regent until the 10th
I am going to do some nitpicking : Prince Joachim is currently "rigsforstander", while the Crown Prince was and will be "regent".
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Old 12-07-2018, 03:19 PM
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BRF Court Circular 6th December

HRH The Duchess of Gloucester this evening attended a Dinner in the presence of The Queen of Denmark at the Dorchester Hotel, 53 Park Lane, London W1, to celebrate the formation of the Danish-UK Association.
Pictures by the Palace

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Old 12-07-2018, 06:12 PM
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And she is doing her Christmas shopping in London at this time of year.
Apart from present to family and friends, she also buys presents for her staff as well as an English plum cake (IIRC. The cake is English at least.)
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Old 12-13-2018, 08:19 AM
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It was a delighted QMII who visited the National Museum today (I mean yesterday ), to attend the Christmas meeting at the Danish Geographical Society.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...ielt-julemoede

BB observes that QMII felt very well among the scientists and researchers who have added more knowledge to the early migration of the human race.

- I bet not even a pack of growling pit-bulls would have kept QMII away!
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A minor correction: The event took place yesterday evening


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Queen Margrethe received newly appointed officers at Christian IX’s Palæ, Amalienborg, today, December 18:


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How nice!

It was also the last State Council of the year today for the Queen and Frederik. Now for the holidays : D
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Final official event for Queen Margrethe before the Christmas holidays: she received newly appointed officers of the Air Force at Christian IX’s Palæ, Amalienborg, today, December 21:



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Old 12-21-2018, 05:54 AM
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Thanks, Iceflower.

And right now QMII is probably eating lunch before embarking the train for Aarhus, where she will spend Christmas.

The DRF wagon will simply be attached to a regular intercity train and after having arrived in Aarhus, the wagon will be disconnected and the regular train will continue.
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You have really beautiful rooms in your palaces Muhler. Not overdone, just lovely.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:34 AM
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Agree, Tarlita.

It helps having QMII, who has a keen sense for colors and composition, around.
- Except at Marselisborg! That's 1967 colors!!
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BB #52, compiled a series of photos of QMII dressing out for the New Year parties.
There was one year where she dressed as a witch walked right past the assembled photographers without being recognized!
That was in 2000.
She arrived in a unmarked car, without a LiW and without an escorting PET car.
But when she left the party, she walked upright with a big smile on her face, knowing she had fooled the press!

See for yourselves here:
https://app.box.com/s/k6mcx4qoj14u0p8moeuge5om8waanunv

And on a completely different note.
This may belong in the general DRF thread.

Summary of article in Billed Bladet #52, 2019.
Written by Trine Larsen

A new book has been published: Children of the Occupation.
Where a number of well known Danes who were children during the Occupation, talk about how they and not least their families experienced the Occupation.
One contributor is QMII who was born a few days of DK was occupied and she turned five shortly before it ended.

It looks like a very interesting book!

DK was occupied on 9th April 1940 and QMII was born on the 16th April. - Actually a little ahead of time. Normally you may expect a first-time mother to give birth a little later than the due date, but the crown princess Ingrid was so distraught about the Occupation that she gave birth early.
QMII: "I was, I think, expected a little later as it often is with the first child, but that wasn't the case here."

Being so young, QMII didn't really comprehend the Occupation:
"I did know that world wasn't as it ought to be.
I have regarded everything in the light of the Occupation. That's the starting point of my life and it's a period that has tainted my view on life, the Danish history and the world history.
The Occupation has somehow set the tone to how I perceive Denmark, Denmark as part of the world, and the world around us."

QMII's grandmother (farmor) Queen Alexandrine, was German born:
"The Occupation must have affected her terribly."

In fact Queen Alexandrine's (German) family rarely visited Amalienborg during the Occupation:
"One of my father's cousins, Louis Ferdinand of Prussia, with whom my parents were very good friends, came to Copenhagen from time to time and if he was in civilian he would he would drop by my mother and father. At some point he phoned my father and said he was in Copenhagen, but he wouldn't drop by, because he hadn't got time to change (into civilian) and that my parents very much appreciated. That was the right attitude.
You simply distinguished between who you could associate and you did not want to associate."

Even the DRF couldn't move around freely in DK. (In the latter half of the war, it was actually a considerable risk to go by train or car. Especially if you moved in anything resembling a convoy.) Because Queen Ingrid flatly refued to ask permission from the Germans to visit Sweden and she did not wish to spend a night outside DK while the country was occupied, so she didn't visit her relatives.

As a child QMII was scared of loud noises, not knowing what happened outside the dark curtains. Sometimes it was gunfire.

At some point her parents hid a resistance fighter in the mansion.
"During the first years of the Occupation my parent continued walking and cycling in the streets. (Just as Christian X continued riding through the streets.) It was a natural thing for them to do. Perhaps it was their quiet protest against the occupation."

QMII was as said before afraid of loud noises and one summer the family had rented a summer cottage at a beach, because they couldn't leave Zealand for Trend, Marselisborg or Gråsten. And here a German plane flew low over the beach.
"They were presumably doing nothing else but looking at girls in bathing suits - but I howled while my father stood in his trunks on the bathing-bride and shook his fist against the plane: Oh, that rubbish!
From then on German planes were called nothing but rubbish..."

On 21st March 1945 the Gestapo HQ in Copenhagen was bombed. At that point QMII was out walking with her nanny and a valet. They had to seek shelter under a nearby railway station and from here they were quickly picked up by car and rushed back to the shelter at Amalienborg.
"I had experienced air raid warnings many times during the night, but never in daylight. I recall very well how I was carried down there and how we sat and waited until we could go back up. It wasn't unusual for us when the air raid siren went off but I was rarely afraid. When it said boom, my father always said: They are shooting gulls.
And if there was a loud bang, he said: That was a big gull.
In that way my parents ensured the disturbances didn't affect me. But as I wasn't fond of loud noises as a child, the disturbances nevertheless settled within me somehow."

Her parents also gave their blessings to the area around Trend hunting lodge being used to pick up drops of equipment and weapons from the Allies. And that was dug down and hidden in the forest around the lodge.

On 4th May 1945 in the early evening the message came through the radio that the German forces in Denmark had surrendered, to take effect the next day. That led to a nation wide jubilation.
QMII had been put to bed when the message came in, but she could her the commotion on the streets and the joy in the voices of her nannies. And then - very unusual - her father came up, took her out of bed and brought her down into the living room, where she was treated to lemon fizzy water, - most unusual! (I imagine Benedikte was left to sleep.)
QMII of course didn't understand what was going on. It's "The Peace." her dad explained.

"I quickly realized it was a landmark event we had experienced. I had experienced it myself; it wasn's just a big event I had heard about, I had mu own memories from those years and I have had them with me ever since in my mental baggage. It was an important period in my life which has followed my all through my life."

She admits that it took her many years before she found it easy to have anything to do with Germany.

"Even though we have lived in a time of peace we must not forget that it is a peace that has had its threats. I have grown up with living in peace is not something that is to be taken for granted; it's something you must be aware of and look after."

- The Resistance in DK can broadly be divided into three groups:
The Communists who, even though they were not oppressed in DK prior to 1941, were nevertheless more used to being clandestine and they were well organized as well.
The "amateurs" who build up their own organizations, often initially led by military officers and NCO, who through various channels got in contact with the Allies and who later on were directed and supplied mainly through SOE - Special Operations Executive.
And the military intelligence. Mainly run and led by officers. To them sabotage was actually considered something of a nuisance, interfering with their quiet intelligence gathering.

The latter two established an efficient communications network, with not only the DRF and the Allies but also the Germans - be they from the Wehrmacht, the SD and Gestapo or from opponents of the Nazi regime. - Hence why the Danish Jews got away. And why there was a live and let live agreement between the Resistance and especially the Wehrmacht. German soldiers were not targeted and could safely walk the streets. In return for a tendency to turn a blind eye. Which again helped the Jews get away.
So having always been surrounded by officers as well as diplomats it's hardly surprising the DRF was pretty well informed about what went on and were involved, as much as it was safe, in the actual resistance.
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Queen Margrethe received the Ambassadors of Slovakia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Albania, Uganda and Vietnam today, January 18:


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Queen Margrethe at the Royal Opera at the Royal Theater's Old Scene, last night for the premiere of the musical performance Amadeus.

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