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This evening, July 14, Queen Margrethe attended the above mentioned ballet performance at Møllerup estate in Rønde:



** BB: Dronning Margrethe til ballet hos veninde ** translation **


** kongehuset.dk: H.M. Dronningen overværede Verdensballet 2018 **
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Gladly.

They are stables and barns and a house for the overseer and his family. And also a smithy, other shops, stores and quarters for the large staff. An estate this size could easily house 30-50 employees, not counting those who live in nearby villages and houses.

Until a few generations ago Denmark was predominantly an agricultural country and until way into the 1800s mainly based on cattle, that during the winter was inside.
Now, cattle needs fodder, hence the large barns.
After having been fattened during the summer, the cattle was driven (or sailed) south to the hungry markets in Germany, but also England. That was a very profitable business, hence why we have so many estates and manors here in DK, considering the size of the country.
- All that to explain the economy behind such an estate.

Okay, the owners of such manors of course wished to display their wealth and status. Partially by building impressive main buildings, but because the owners were farmers first and foremost, they also wished to display their barns and stables. And that is why people visiting such estates driving up to a manor first passed the stables, barns, shops and what not, before even getting to the main building. It's a statement saying: Look at my business! Look at how well-run and well-maintained my business is! Look at how successful and wealthy my family is!
It also meant that lord of the manor could oversee most of the activity from his office and bedroom.
If you were a visiting noble, you were given a tour of the property, including the cow-sheds. You were expected to be given such a tour and you were expected to actually have a keen knowledge about what you were shown for your own assessment.

The estates where the manor house is the center-piece and where barns are hidden away out of sight are far between in Denmark.
The nobles living in these estates identified themselves of course as nobles but otherwise first and foremost as farmers. And they were hands on in regards to their estate.
There were of course nobles who showed little or no interest in their estates, but they were the exception and such people got little respect form their peers. After all the estate was the working symbol of your family's status and wealth.
So the nobles living here knew about crops, cattle, economy and so on. They knew most of their employees by name, they knew most of their tenants by name and they knew who came and went on their estate. I.e. tradesmen, craftsmen - and rascals.
And when nobles met they could certainly converse in French and discuss Voltaire but they certainly also discussed the prize on cattle, horse breeding, investments and crop yield.
And that included their wives as well. Being responsible for the household they could easily talk about fashion, horses, maintenance of the main buildings, the latest interior trends and the current theatrical plays in Copenhagen - all within an hour. In French or German if need be, lest the servants listened in...

Okay, practically every noble family worth mentioning had a house in Copenhagen and spend some time there every year. Partially to mingle among themselves, partially due to political obligations, partially to do business and pay their respect to the DRF - but also to keep up with the latest cultural trends. - But they made sure they got regular reports from their overseer at their estate on how things were doing.

- In short: The notion about the aloof, disinterested rich noble with way too much time on his hands is, certainly in Danish context, a myth.
Even the very rich who owned several estates were busy! They were first and foremost farmers with a business to run. And the more well-run your estate was, the more respect you got.
Thank you so very much Muhler for your explanation. The Danish method of farming has clearly done much to structure Danish society; I imagine that these place have stayed in the same families for many generations, much like the English and Dutch systems. However, although horses were given palatial accommodations on English estates, I do not believe cows were treated with the same consideration! In the Netherlands, grass is black and white! Clearly yet another reason why Danes are the happiest people in the world; if your cows are happy, then everyone is happy!
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Thank you so very much Muhler for your explanation. The Danish method of farming has clearly done much to structure Danish society; I imagine that these place have stayed in the same families for many generations, much like the English and Dutch systems. However, although horses were given palatial accommodations on English estates, I do not believe cows were treated with the same consideration! In the Netherlands, grass is black and white! Clearly yet another reason why Danes are the happiest people in the world; if your cows are happy, then everyone is happy!
You are of course right. If the animals are treated well in a certain country, then it's logic that the people are happy too, since they have the surplus to treat animals well.
However, we still a way to go in that respect here in DK, I'm afraid. The pork and poultry factories are not something to write home about.

But back to the manors. Yes, quite a few of them stayed in the family for generations, sometimes from the very beginning to the present day.
But many have of course changed hands many times as a result of intermarriage, the family line dying out (are you listening Japan?) but mainly for financial reasons.
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But back to the manors. Yes, quite a few of them stayed in the family for generations, sometimes from the very beginning to the present day.
But many have of course changed hands many times as a result of intermarriage, the family line dying out (are you listening Japan?) but mainly for financial reasons.
I've read that many estates changed hands after the agricultural reforms following WWI leading to the nobility being replaced by newer families in many cases.
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I've read that many estates changed hands after the agricultural reforms following WWI leading to the nobility being replaced by newer families in many cases.
Yes, much has changed in the past 100 years. Like in practically every other European country that still has an aristocracy, many of them struggle with the expenses of maintaining their ancestral home, and many simply had to give up, so yes many manors are now a part of an agricultural company, owning a lot of land and several estates and even manors. Basically agricultural industry.
Others have been taken over by the state or local municipalities and used for all sorts of purposes.
And others have been bought by private individuals, who for various reasons can afford it.
But surprisingly many noble families still own a manor (or two! Or even three!), which is a testament to the stable political and economic conditions in DK over the past couple of centuries.

- I once watched a docu where a middle-aged DK couple, who had always wanted an estate of their own, managed to get the funds to buy one. (And in a reasonable condition mind you.) They ended up spending most of their spare time cleaning the place! Because they couldn't afford a staff.
So little fun there IMO.
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Old 07-15-2018, 05:59 AM
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Ah but the point is that that estate belong to them now and I bet they took great care of it for in saving all that money, it meant something to them.....maybe a dream come true.
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As interesting as it may be, let us please get back to Queen Margrethe's current events! Thank you!
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Queen Margrethe is currently on her annual holiday in France at Cayx.

Found this posted on tumblr:

Concert in honor of Prince Henrik of Denmark to be held in the Chateau de Cayroux, France
« The yard of the castle Cayrou will host Saturday, August 11 at 18:30 a piano recital for the benefit of the association “Issa pourquoi pas”. This concert will pay tribute to Prince Henrik of Denmark, a native of Albas, (who died last year) and will be given in the presence of Her Majesty the Queen of Denmark. Sister Catherine de Monpezat (Henrik’s sister) chairs the association which provides school and medical aid to the children of Burkina fasso and Guinea Conakry.

The concert artist Alan Gampel, a pianist of American origin, received at the age of 16 the “Presidential Award” at the White House; he has also been awarded prestigious prizes and gives recitals around the world. Eager to pass on his passion for music to young people, he gave 300 recitals to school children. On the program are works by Chopin, Debussy, Liszt, Gerschwin and Brahms. »



‪(Info from La Depeche, a local newspaper)‬

Sorry, I couldn't work out how to do a direct link to the tumbr post so I've just copied and pasted the text - hope that's ok

Prince Henrik always enjoyed hosting the annual concerts there every year in aid of his sister's charities so this is a nice remembrance for him. If I remember correctly the last planned concert had to be cancelled a couple of years ago because France was on a high terrorism security alert at the time.
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Pictures from this concert with the presence of course of Queen Margrethe

Concert en hommage au prince Henrik de Danemark - Noblesse & Royautés
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Thank you both. It's lovely that they held the concert at Henrik's chateau in France. I can feel an empty patch by Margrethe whenever I see photos of her post Henrik's death. It seems that she has been (publicly) handling the sad occasion well, she's always smiling whenever we see her.
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Did any of the late Prince Henrik's siblings attend,it must have been sad for the queen to be there without him.
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The above posted blog entry mentions both his sister Catherine, who held a speech, and his youngest brother who played the piano. Right now I can't remember whether Étienne or Jean Baptise is the youngest, but at least we know that two of them attended
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Summer at Chateau de Cayx with the Queen!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmghXa3A...danskekongehus
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:26 PM
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A nice gallery with QMII going to the market at Cahors, something she does every year, she's in France and clearly enjoy it.
It's also normal that the press follow her around on one of those trips.

https://ekstrabladet.dk/flash/kongel...-koeen/7268259

More interesting however are the comments from the locals.

Phillipe Champaign has been selling fish to QMII for many years and he said: "Well, she's alone now. - I condoled to her on her loss." And she responded with a "Merci".
"She is very, very kind. She is queuing up like everybody else."

Bernadette Delcasse sells lavender.
And her stand has been browsed by QMII for years, but this year, QMII took up her purse (that's new. Usually her LiW has been paying.) and bought four bags of lavender.
"There is cocaine in the bags, but don't tell anyone. - I can easily recognize her. I've seen her with her bodyguards and my father went hunting with Prince Henrik many years ago."

Gillies Ballu has been selling cheese to QMII for ten years, and this time she bought three.
"She's very sweet and kind, a very pleasant person. - People know who she is, but are very discreet around her."

Not everyone know her though. A basket-seller didn't know her. QMII's LiW bought a basket and the seller said afterwards: "I was told it was a Queen."
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Today, August 16, Queen Margrethe held a press conference on the occasion of the upcoming state visit of French President Emmanuel Macron at the end of this month. The press conference took place at Chateau de Cayx, and Prince Henrik was therefore one of the main topics:


"Of course, it's different to be here alone. But it's good to be back," she said, "He does not just come to the door asking if we are going to do that or that. I have to make that decision myself. You must learn and live with it, and so do you too. There are many in my age who are in the same situation".


** dailymail: Danish queen: Work helps tackling husband's death **


** BB: Pressemøde på Cayx: Nu fortæller dronningen ** translation **


** seoghoer.dk: Dronningen: Henriks aske er ikke spredt endnu ** translation **


** Første pressemøde i 10 år: Vil dronningen i dag afsløre stor nyhed? ** translation **


** Dronningen om tiden efter prins Henriks død: »Det har været en mærkelig oplevelse« ** translation **



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Its a beautiful setting but I feel sad for the queen who's all alone there!
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The gist of the press meeting, very briefly, based on articles and comments.

This is not a new start of the old tradition about meeting the press at Cayx every summer.
The only reason for this meeting was practicality. That she prior to a state visit meet with the press of the other country. In this case France. Because the French President will visit DK at the end of this month - and very conveniently Chateau Cayx is located in France.

She does however plan to go visit the chateau more often than just during the summers. But there will be no further visits this year.

There are no specific plans about who is going to take over Cayx. She will leave that to Joachim and Frederik. - Commentators have speculated that this suggests that PH did not make a will in this regard. They also find it most likely that M&F, rather than J&M should take over the place. Partly because the chateau is too small to create much of a surplus, if any. And partly because M&F, especially later on, may wish to have a place where they can remain very anonymous. - I do not agree. I find it likely that should M&F invest in a place where they can be themselves, somewhere in Australia seems more likely.
I believe the chateau will eventually be sold, perhaps to relatives of PH, who have land in the area.

She explained that the death of PH wasn't a sudden shock to her. Things had after all gone down for about 1½ year. She was however glad that he died in a dignified manner. (I.e. IMO that he died before his condition deteriorated seriously.) She also described the support she and her family got from the Danes at the time of the funeral as a "great gift".

She has no plans of abdicating! She likes to have something to do.
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A nice gallery with QMII going to the market at Cahors, something she does every year, she's in France and clearly enjoy it.
It's also normal that the press follow her around on one of those trips.

https://ekstrabladet.dk/flash/kongel...-koeen/7268259
I've always liked those photos of Margrethe at that local market. Although she always knew that the photographers were there, the photos always looked so natural and the Queen looked like the woman next door - just like this year

Here's an additional gallery that includes both some more photos of the trip to the market and the meeting with the press:


** belga gallery **
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Summary of a very comprehensive press meeting with QMII at Cayx in Billed Bladet #34, 2018.
Written by Trine Larsen.

As you can expect, when QMII opens her mouth something meaningful come out! At this press meeting a lot of meaningful things came out!

First the scans:
Billed Bladet #34, 2018:
https://app.box.com/s/az2j6608orpltf93t6fbtpss0i9bq8vn

And last week, Billed Bladet #33, 2018:
https://app.box.com/s/ceq9xriibi6g1ac9gaea2ge48o5legat

QMII spoke first in excellent French to the French reporters there for the upcoming French state visit.
Then to the Danish reporters.

QMII starts out by saying she looks forward to the visit by the young French President about whom she has been reading up.
She also mentions that it is different being here at the chateau alone.

She explains that it is indeed tradition only to have one state visit to an individual country during a reign, albeit there are lesser official visits here and there as well. But she decided it has been such a long time ago, back in 1978, there was last a state visit from France that it was time to break with the tradition and have a second.

But what will she talk with President Macron about?
She won't have substantial talks as such. The political issues with be handled by the Danish PM, but she looks forward to learn how he is, being a somewhat untraditional politician compared to his predecessors.

QMII very elegantly dodged questions into what she would specifically discuss with President Macron during the visit. Oh, chit chat...

What does it mean to her that now, so shortly after the death of PH, that the first second state visit is from France?
It means that it is someone who understands her affiliation with France who is visiting, more so than someone from another country.

How is it being at the chateau alone?
Well, that's pretty obvious, isn't it? He isn't just coming through the door asking if they should do this or that. But you have to learn to live with it and she is hardly alone in that situation among her friends.

Is it sad coming here?
No, not really. It's after all a lovely place she and her husband created together and were very fond of and with more than 200 members of the Montpezat family around, many of whom live around here, she is hardly alone.

The first birthday, Christmas and so on can be hard. What times might be hard for her?
Not really, because she knew where it was going, but Frederik's birthday meant a lot to her - and that her husband wasn't around to see...

Is she reflecting on her future in the light of the death of her husband?
She takes the days in her stride.

But is that difficult? Now that everything is very different.
Yes, but in contrast to others of her age, QMII still has a job. And that has been a tremendous help. As long as there is something to do, you don't go down.
Being busy has very much helped her. So in the light of that she believe she's coping fine.

How did she experience the days from prior the death of PH and until today?
It was a strange experience because the public support was so very moving. It was a huge support that people spoke so well about PH and remembered him fondly. It was like riding a wave. It was very positive and something that delighted her a lot.

How has her day to day life changed after the death of PH?
Well, they don't do things together anymore.
They were not that much together for the past 1½ year, because he was ill, so it wasn't a sudden shock that he died.

How was the last time?
It was the way it was. But she is very pleased that the end was very dignified and beautiful. And the public support and rallying around the family was a great gift.

How about his decision about not being buried next to her?
He was a free man and she accepts his decision.

She is often reminded about PH when she is going places or as here in France attending a memorial concert, how is that?
Lovely. It's nice that he is remembered fondly and often with humor.

How about the future for Chateau Cayx?
She expect to continue coming her during the summers and perhaps at other times as well.

How about the wine-production?
She isn't without influence but the production has been out-sourced.

What is she doing on a typical holiday?
Getting up and having breakfast. Wandering a bit about the chateau and going to the local market on Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Will Frederik inherit Chateau Cayx as PH has talked about?
The family, and especially her two sons will work that out over time. For the time being she will not interfere in that discussion at all.

But does she wish for the chateau to remain in the family?
She hope and believe it will.

Has PH's ashes been scattered over the sea and buried at Fredensborg?
It will happen! But not everything is ready yet.

Will she abdicate? Reflecting on now being alone for the past six month?
No, not really. She likes to have something to do and expects to continue doing so.

Has she had visits from Denmark while down here?
Oh, yes, gesturing towards the Danish journalists.

By the family?
No, but Joachim and his family was down there before she arrived, and she has had visits from friends.

She looks really well, despite being alone. How does she cope? Where does she find the strength?
She does because she has a good day to day life to fall back on. And because many people are so very sweet. Both in asking how she is - and in leaving her alone. And that's the way she likes it.

She seems to have a very good support in her family?
Very much so.

Her sisters have been supportive. Will Benedikte have a greater role.
Not really. No more than she is already doing and she also has her own things, apart from coping well after becoming a widow herself.

Will she hand over more responsibility to the next generation?
There are a number of things that she ought to take care of, and that she intents to keep doing.
And it's fine that M&F are more busy.

How is it to seen the oldest grandchild being of age, graduating as high school student, start a military education - and walking the cat-walk?
That's very funny to see. And she is very pleased for him. Also that he got fine grades at the graduation. She is also pleased that he is taking a stint in the military. It's good for a young person to get that training. And it pleased his father so very much! - And also farmor (paternal grandmother) as well!

Him being a model, had she seen that coming?
No, you can't say that! But people do many things.

Nikolai has said that the family was involved in the decision of him joining the army. Was she also involved?
They didn't actually ask her but they were very well aware of her opinion, so that wasn't necessary.
But she is very pleased and sure it will be a good experience for him. It was for her two sons. And she looks forward to seeing him in uniform.

When will that happen?
She doesn't know but it will happen for sure. (New lieutenants go to an audience with the monarch.)

How important is it that M&F visit the Faeroe Islands?
It's an extremely important visit. She is pleased with maintaining the contact to the islands and she is sure they will have a great experience.

Will she go on such trips with the CP-family in the future?
She will certainly go to both Greenland and the Faeroe Islands. Whether she will bring along others from the family has not yet reached the planning stage.

But couldn't it be fun to experience such things with the grandchildren?
Sure, but one thing at a time.

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This interview really deserve a full translation, but I simply haven't got time.
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