Queen Margrethe II and Prince Henrik, Current Events 3: August 2010 - January 2013

[camelot23ca]

Originally Posted by MRSJ

You make your own point, if the DRF had decided to send the CPC then they would have been going as representative- The Queen obviously decided she wants to go with her husband and not send the CPC..... like ALL the other houses monoarchs were invited and then could send anyone, like Sweden chose to send Victoria and Daniel and Netherlands Max and WA- they were equally as 'non-invited' as Frederick and Mary and yet they are attending so Frederick was simply not choosen by his mom to represent the DRF as she had decided to do so herself....

Exactly. Additionally I think that if Frederik and Mary, (for example), wanted to accompany Queen Margrethe to the wedding they'd be welcome.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by MRSJ

You make your own point, if the DRF had decided to send the CPC then they would have been going as representative- The Queen obviously decided she wants to go with her husband and not send the CPC..... like ALL the other houses monoarchs were invited and then could send anyone, like Sweden chose to send Victoria and Daniel and Netherlands Max and WA- they were equally as 'non-invited' as Frederick and Mary and yet they are attending so Frederick was simply not choosen by his mom to represent the DRF as she had decided to do so herself....

I disagree.

You either get a general invitation or a personal invitation. Frederik stated clearly that he and Mary had not been invited.
You don't invite yourself.
M&F would go if QMII and PH are somehow prevented. - Only in that situation, can you "interprete" an invitation.

Originally Posted by camelot23ca

Exactly. Additionally I think that if Frederik and Mary, (for example), wanted to accompany Queen Margrethe to the wedding they'd be welcome.

In that case they would be "crashing" the party.

I mean, if you are not invited to a party, you don't call the hosts and say: "I wanna come too".

[camelot23ca]

Originally Posted by Muhler

I disagree.

You either get a general invitation or a personal invitation. Frederik stated clearly that he and Mary had not been invited.
You don't invite yourself.
M&F would go if QMII and PH are somehow prevented. - Only in that situation, can you "interprete" an invitation.


In that case they would be "crashing" the party.

I mean, if you are not invited to a party, you don't call the hosts and say: "I wanna come too".

Depends on how bad you want to go.

I think there's probably no use in speculating whether the invitations were general household invitations or 'to the monarch +1 only' invitations as unless we ever see a copy of an actual invite both interpretations can be made. I'm basing my idea of a general invitation on the Spanish case where both the consort and the CP couple are going... I don't think think Felipe and Letizia would have been tacked on afterwards as the previously posted Telegraph article suggests, (although if they were, Muhler, that means apparently you CAN crash the party ).

[Viv]

We cannot verify the factual information in the article of the Daily Telegraph; had it been the Daily Mail I'd have dismissed it right away! But 'pride' is supposedly one of the arch characteristics of the Spanish, so maybe it's true! If so I'll take my hat off to the Spanish Courtiers!

Viv

[iceflower]

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Queen Margrethe opened the Treasure Chamber at The Old City Museum
in Arhus on April 19, 2011.


** Pic ** gettyimages/wireimage gallery **

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by iceflower

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Queen Margrethe opened the Treasure Chamber at The Old City Museum
in Arhus on April 19, 2011.


** Pic ** gettyimages/wireimage gallery **

Thanks, Iceflower

I cannot help wondering whether some of QMII's latest headgear contain some kind of communication or tracking devices.

An article about the event from Jyllands Posten: Den Gamle By åbner nyt skatkammer

QMII was bascally inauguration a new vault for the most precious items displayed at Den Gamle By = The Old Town, a museum in Aarhus.
The museum has a large collection os valuable articles that are connected to, and could be found, in a wealthy merchant town up to 300 years ago. These items are now much more secure.

Den Gamle By consists of a number of buildings gathered from all over the country. These buildings have been moved here or rebuilt here, so that it resembles a merchant town as it would have looked like 150-300 years ago.
Recently new buildings have been added so that a part of the area resemble a street anno 1960 or so. Yes, 1960 is becoming the "good old days". You know, back when the sun always shined from a bright clear sky during summer and it always snowed at Christmas. When crooks were fairly decent crooks and the police always got their man. - At least in the movies...

In short: This would be an event where QMII would certainly not have to be dragged kicking and screaming.




Margrethe appears to have had a fieldday!

Billed-Bladet - Dronningen tog en kunstpause fra sin påskeferie

First the inauguration in the Old Town, but also a closer look at various items there, which have not yet been displayed in public.

No need to rush to the Old Town is there? She popped by Aros on the way. Aros is the largest art muesum in Aarhus, and had a look at an exhibition of painting by Asger Jorn, then up to the roof of the museum to see an exhibition, and probably enjoying the view as well, of another exhibition which has not yet been opened to the public.

In fact no one knew QMII would drop by and an elderly gentleman almost bumped into Margrethe at the entrance, because he hadn't noticed her.

Dronning Margrethe på uventet besøg for at se Jorn-kunst - Kultur

Here is a neat gallery of QMII in The Old Town: Fotogalleri: Dronningen i den gamle by | stiften.dk

The man with the red and white tie behind her is the mayor, Nikolai Wammen, he would so much like to become a minister, if the oppostion wins the next election.

[Viv]

Back to HM's attendance of the UK wedding:

Part of the guest list is now published and I'm beginning to wonder why she didn't pass on the invitation to Frederik and Mary! We know that HM is a party animal who likes a good olde royal-get-together- and-knees-up, however the composition of the foreign royalty guest list reveals that she may be in for a dissappointment! Several European monarchs have excused themselves and send the their crown princely couples instead. Norway, Denmark, Spain, Luxembourg and Monaco are represented by the monarchs, Spain including the Asturiasses!
The rest of the Europeans are has-beens!

I know it's not the right place to refer to the UK wedding, so.. before a moderator reacts, the guest list can be found on the www.officialroyalwedding2011.org site.

Happy easter!

Viv

[Madame Royale]

Spain isn't represented by it's monarch. Only it's consort and the Asturias couple

I'd have liked to have seen the Crown Prince and Princess attend, but the Queen must have felt her presence more appropriate.

[RubyPrincess168]

Originally Posted by Viv

Back to HM's attendance of the UK wedding:

I know it's not the right place to refer to the UK wedding, so.. before a moderator reacts, the guest list can be found on the www.officialroyalwedding2011.org site.

I don't have a problem with her attending. She and the Queen are distant cousins. Maybe she enjoys England and visiting with the Queen. Maybe QEII would like there to be some guests of her own age range for her to hang with at the reception.

P.S. Thanks for the website. The schedule will come in very useful in setting my VCR. So many channels are starting so early. Now I know how much fluffy filler there will be.

[Madame Royale]

for her to hang with at the reception.

That's precisely what monarchs do. The "hang" .lol.

The Queen interacts with people of all ages and enthnicities on a very regular basis so I don't think age is a motivation behind the invitation. As wth all invites to foreign royal families, the invites were addressed to the sovereign/deposed head and their respective spouse.

Though I'm sure the British and Danish monarchs will have a very pleasant exchange throughout Margrethe's time in London.

[Viv]

Originally Posted by Madame Royale

Spain isn't represented by it's monarch. Only it's consort and the Asturias couple

Oops - that's correct! I forgot that King Carlos doesn't attend the foreign wedding, but anyway - the original idea on my part was to menion that the spouse of the Spanish monarch is attending !
Anyway it doesn't change my opinion that Queen Margrethe should have considered sending the Crown Princely couple in stead! I don't doubt that she has an amicable relationship with QE II, but it's hardly a close one! No way! Though they share a similar fates, circumstances and experiences I don't see how they can get a conservation going for long; they're far too different in their interests!

Viv

[RubyPrincess168]

On the contrary, I can picture them sitting at a table, after QEII's hosting duties have been completed, and just being Grandmothers. And maybe they talk politics and current events (all the stuff they aren't supposed to have an "official" opinion about). I, for one, would love to eavesdrop on their conversation!

[Madame Royale]

Originally Posted by Viv

Anyway it doesn't change my opinion that Queen Margrethe should have considered sending the Crown Princely couple in stead! I don't doubt that she has an amicable relationship with QE II, but it's hardly a close one! No way! Though they share a similar fates, circumstances and experiences I don't see how they can get a conservation going for long; they're far too different in their interests!

Viv

Ah but there lies the beauty of their 'relationship'. We do not know what level of correspondance they have. Personally, I'd imagine they'd get along very well and no doubt have more in common than we may think :)

I think perhaps Elizabeth could be more candid with a fellow monarch than she may be with many others, outside her own family.

I'm not suggesting the are best friends, but good friends, certainly.

All that said, I agree with you re the Queen attending Prince William's wedding, and not the Crown Prince and Princess.

[Rosapru]

Queen Margareth said once in an interview that she has a huge admiration for QEII and that she had enormous humour and was very fun and people cant imagine that. I saw a video on the car accident Princess Diana had in 1997 when she died and in the report Queen Margareth is interviewed. She is also one of the few order of the garter with the king of norway and her husband Prince Henrik is good friend with Prince filip and they planned a few years ago to joint their forces and create the group of men who walk behind their spouses. Very funny men. Margareth and Henrik goes a few times a year to Sandringham for hunting with QEII and Prince Filip and the king and queen of Greece. So traditionally we dont see photos of these friendly meeting because the BRF consideres this as private. Now if they visited the swedish RF of course you will have photos because everything is an opportunity to photoshoot.

[suztav]

In advancd to the Moderators: you may want to move this to a William and Kate page ... but posting here initially because of the conversations re: CP Couple's invited.

I'm thinking that Felipe and Letizia are invited because Felipe through his mother is a bit of a "closer" relative to the Prince of Wales than is CP Frederik. After all, Felipe is a similar type of relative to the Prince of Wales as is CP Pavlos. That may be the "logic" that you are all looking for in this conversation regarding "who's invited, who's not invited ...."

JMHO!

[RubyPrincess168]

Queen Margrethe and Princess Benedikte mentioned in a documentary going on their first trip to England shortly after QEII's coronation and having queen with Queen Mary. It was the first time PB had ever seen a television set and they were very impressed by it. So there is some kind of relationship between the two and it goes back aways.

Maybe they're BFFs? : )

[Viv]

Originally Posted by Rosapru

Margareth and Henrik goes a few times a year to Sandringham for hunting with QEII and Prince Filip and the king and queen of Greece. So traditionally we don't see photos of these friendly meeting because the BRF consideres this as private.

Excusez-moi, but how do you do that if there's no photos or other records of it?? Rusapru -I'm not saying that HM and Henri have never been invited to Sandringham for a shoot; what I'm saying is that I - a member of the general Danish public - have never, ever heard about it!
The last time I noticed that Queen Margrethe at Sandringham was some 7 -8 years ago. She was there with her sister and King Constantine and the shoot/week-end get-to-gether or whatever hosted by the Prince of Wales. There was a photo of her from that visit, I think she was going to the Sunday service with the rest of the company.

If the other Danes know otherwise: shoot !
Viv

Originally Posted by RubyPrincess168

Queen Margrethe and Princess Benedikte mentioned in a documentary going on their first trip to England shortly after QEII's coronation and having queen with Queen Mary. It was the first time PB had ever seen a television set and they were very impressed by it. So there is some kind of relationship between the two and it goes back aways.

It had something to do with Queen Ingrid being half-English and a great grand child of Queen Victoria! She stayed frequently in the UK in her youth and nursed her British family connections (the Connaughts!) as long as they were around! However she knew many others from the main line of the familiy and the Queen Mother was a god parent to Princess Benedikte!

Viv

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Viv

Excusez-moi, but how do you do that if there's no photos or other records of it?? Rusapru -I'm not saying that HM and Henri have never been invited to Sandringham for a shoot; what I'm saying is that I - a member of the general Danish public - have never, ever heard about it!
The last time I noticed that Queen Margrethe at Sandringham was some 7 -8 years ago. She was there with her sister and King Constantine and the shoot/week-end get-to-gether or whatever was hosted by the Prince of Wales. There was a photo of her from that visit, I think she was going to the Sunday service with the rest of the company.

If the other Danes know otherwise: shoot !
Viv

I've never heard about that either.
QMII go to England incognito every year a few weeks before Christmas to do some shopping, but I've never read about QMII and PH going hunting at Sandringham, let alone on a regular basis.

[Madame Royale]

I've heard it. Whether Sandringham or Blamoral though, I can't recall.

[Muhler]

The Russian Prime Minister Putin will arrive in Copenhagen Tuesday for a day long visit.

Putin indtager København - Politik - BT.dk

BT writes a little background details of the visit, which must be considered a political and very pragmatic visit.
Putin will meet with the Danish PM, Lars Løkke. He will also meet QMII at an audience, which in itself is not that usual a thing to do as Putin, is "only" the head of the Russian government, and not a head of state.
Most often a visiting government leader only meet with the PM and representatives of the Parliament, including the opposition.
The article says that Putin is in charge, even though Medvedev is President.
That is certainly very much debated on the political forums on the Net!
Personally I think the approach from Danish side is very pragmatic.

Not least in the light of the very warm relations between DK and Russia some years ago, which among other things included the reburiel of Empress Dagmar in Russia.
These relations were very much put on hold, by Putin, due to the then Danish stance on the situation in the Caucasus.

These relations has warmed since the Danish government allowed a gaspipeline to go through Danish territory from Russia, a couple of years ago.
Aaand because President Obama has declared that the US (and therefore also Danish) relations with Russia are to be more pragmatic.

So, to put it bluntly, we will be sucking up to Putin tomorrow.