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07-30-2006, 03:11 PM
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Are you sure about that Larzen ?
I have a feeling that if princess Alexandra ever remarry Queen Margethe migth strip princess Alexandra the Order of the Elephant amd claime the wedding tiara the she and princeconsort gave Princess Alexandra in wedding gift..In that way the queen migth be old-fashioned.
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Recently Alexandras secretary said the tiara belonged to the Princess, it was gift to her, not a loan, and it did not belong to Joachim. Queen Margrethe has only stripped one person of the order of the elephant and that was R omanian President Ceausescu, I strongly doubt Alexandra will suffer the same faith for remarrying  About beeing invited to dinners I cant find a source for it I heared it on Dr or TV2 during the wedding, but then they did not know about Alexandra getting divorced so maybe its no clear what will happen. But then they said that as an Knight of the order of the elephant McKinney Møller was always invited to galadinners.
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07-30-2006, 04:10 PM
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Recently Alexandras secretary said the tiara belonged to the Princess, it was gift to her, not a loan, and it did not belong to Joachim. Queen Margrethe has only stripped one person of the order of the elephant and that was R omanian President Ceausescu, I strongly doubt Alexandra will suffer the same faith for remarrying About beeing invited to dinners I cant find a source for it I heared it on Dr or TV2 during the wedding, but then they did not know about Alexandra getting divorced so maybe its no clear what will happen. But then they said that as an Knight of the order of the elephant McKinney Møller was always invited to galadinners. |
In Denmark you are Knight of the Elephant for life unless you become a traitor of your country... When Ceausescu lost his Elephant it was because his own country no longer acknowledged him as their head of state. The many princes of Denmark who lost their titles and became counts of Rosenborg due to marriage of commoners never lost their Elephants or military honours.
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07-30-2006, 06:34 PM
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Well, that makes sense, I cannot see Joachim's new wife wanting to wear Alexandra's jewelry. Even in the unlikely event that Queen Margrethe were to take back the tiara, I seriously doubt that it would go to Joachim's new wife.
The most logical conclusion would be that Alexandra will keep it and pass it on to Nikolai's wife.
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07-30-2006, 11:09 PM
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Princess Alexandra looks like a lovely person.
She will find someone who loves her for herself.
She has quita a personality.
Thank you all for the pictures of her.
Can I change to Royal watcher rather than being referred to as a commoner.Thank you.
Countess Alexandra must understand once her brother-in-law marries her position will automatically be reduced to make way for the future Queen of Denmark. I welcome comments on that. Thank you.
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07-31-2006, 12:34 AM
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She was only ever in the 'Duchess of York' position, wasn't she? Her position will only be reduced if she remarries, then she slips from Princess and Her Highness to Countess and Her Excellency (but in her own right). Either way I think Denmark gave her a great deal. Other RFs could learn from this example how to handle a divorce where the woman is bringing up Princes/esses of the blood royal.
The exception being Fergie whom I think was handled appropriately given the scandal. Alexandra appears, in contrast, to know how to conduct herself with decorum and to make her a Princess but of lesser rank and generously give her an own-right title too seems a model of how to do it and keep things civil with all parties.
Good for Queen Margarethe!
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07-31-2006, 03:20 AM
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Princess Alexandra looks like a lovely person.
She will find someone who loves her for herself.
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who says her current boyfriend doesn't? 
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Countess Alexandra must understand once her brother-in-law marries her position will automatically be reduced to make way for the future Queen of Denmark. I welcome comments on that. Thank you.
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Her ex brother in law IS married, has been since 2004. You mean her position has been reduced over the last two years because of that?
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07-31-2006, 07:17 AM
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Can I change to Royal watcher rather than being referred to as a commoner.Thank you.
Countess Alexandra must understand once her brother-in-law marries her position will automatically be reduced to make way for the future Queen of Denmark. I welcome comments on that. Thank you.
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Alexandra is just not a Countess she is also Princess..Her titel is:
Princess Alexandra of Denmark,Countess of Frederiksborg.
I don´t think that her position her in Denmark has been reducede since CP Frederik got CP Mary as wife. Both women has their one area to complete and when littel Prince Christian came CP Mary had another area to work with...I hope that she and Princess Alexandra talk about being a mother,wife and a Princess.
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07-31-2006, 01:16 PM
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I hope that she and Princess Alexandra talk about being a mother,wife and a Princess.
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That would require a relationship between Mary and Alexandra, and they don't seem to have one. I've only seen a few pictures of them together at a fashion show. I think part of the reason I could never warm up to Mary is that I don't like the way she interacts, or doesn't, with Alexandra. That is where the grace of a woman and a princess should come through; Mary should be able to convey a certain sympathy and support for Alexandra's situation without undermining her own relationship with the rest of the royal family. She could do this simply by appearing with her a few more times than she did.
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07-31-2006, 08:09 PM
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Since Mary is married to Fred, it is only logical that her allegiance would naturally gravitate to her husband's family - Joachim. Being a "fairly new" addition to the family, it would be too much to ask that Mary support Alexandra. Her support of Alexandra would give the impression that she favors Alexandra and opposes Joachim; an impression which the royal family may feel is totally inappropriate for the royal household. After all, they must all present a united front.
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08-07-2006, 11:42 PM
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Do you think she's being phased out of the Royal Household now that she's no longer a part of the family? Do you think she will remarry. After years of being referred to as HRH to be downgraded to HH, must seem somewhat humiliating and it would be even more so if she would be downgraded to HE. I think she would be used to being treated as a Princess and it would be a massive Alexandra she wouldn't become known as Mrs so and so after remarriage and that was nice of Her Majesty.
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08-08-2006, 08:47 AM
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Do you think she's being phased out of the Royal Household now that she's no longer a part of the family? Do you think she will remarry. After years of being referred to as HRH to be downgraded to HH, must seem somewhat humiliating and it would be even more so if she would be downgraded to HE. I think she would be used to being treated as a Princess and it would be a massive Alexandra she wouldn't become known as Mrs so and so after remarriage and that was nice of Her Majesty.
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I think she is still part of the family considered that she is a mother of the queen's two grandsons but she won't involve in family's events as much as when she was still Joachim's wife. I would like to see that she will remarry one day, she deserves to have happiness by finding another love in her life. I really don't think the downgraded of her status is considered as something humiliating. I think she is lucky that she still styles as HH and keeps her princess title and even will styles as Her Excellency Countess of Fredericksburg if she decides to remarry one day , when other divorced princess doesn't get what she has (I heard that Diana princess of Wales got striped all the title after being divorced even though people still refers her as "Diana, princess of Wales" correct me if I'm wrong). Yes, It seems that Alexandra wouldn't be just Mrs. somebody if one day she decides to remarry, she will styled as Her Excellency Countess Fredericksburg .
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08-09-2006, 09:23 PM
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I know very little of this royal couple and their children. What was quoted as the reason why the Joachim and Alexandra isn't married anymore and when did this happen? Who has custody of the children, and where does their mother live? Is she Asian? 
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08-09-2006, 11:15 PM
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I know very little of this royal couple and their children. What was quoted as the reason why the Joachim and Alexandra isn't married anymore and when did this happen? Who has custody of the children, and where does their mother live? Is she Asian? |
Please read through the following thread where I'm sure you will find most of the answers regarding Joachim's and Alexandra's divorce. This thread is not the place to rehash these events since it is a current events thread.
Princess Alexandra was born in Hong Kong, the daughter of Richard Nigel Manley and Christa Maria Manley. She became a Danish citizen upon her marriage to Prince Joachim. She resides in Denmark with her two sons, Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix.
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08-09-2006, 11:22 PM
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I know very little of this royal couple and their children. What was quoted as the reason why the Joachim and Alexandra isn't married anymore and when did this happen?
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You can read up the reason & the news surrounding their divorce here :
Divorce for Joachim & Alexandra
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Who has custody of the children, and where does their mother live? Is she Asian?
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They both share the custody of Prince Nikolai & Prince Felix, and are now in very good terms. They take turn taking care of the little Princes, but the boys are living with Princess Alexandra at her home in Svanemøllevej in Hellerup (which you can read here). Yes, Princess Alexandra is partly Asian, her father is half British & half Chinese. The Princess also spent some of her childhood in Hongkong.
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08-11-2006, 04:21 PM
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Thanks for filling me in and directing me to where I can get additional information.
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08-15-2006, 07:33 PM
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You can read up the reason & the news surrounding their divorce here :
Divorce for Joachim & Alexandra
They both share the custody of Prince Nikolai & Prince Felix, and are now in very good terms. They take turn taking care of the little Princes, but the boys are living with Princess Alexandra at her home in Svanemøllevej in Hellerup (which you can read here). Yes, Princess Alexandra is partly Asian, her father is half British & half Chinese. The Princess also spent some of her childhood in Hongkong. |
I believe she was born and raised in Hong Kong.
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08-18-2006, 07:22 AM
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hallo everyone,
i found an article in B.T. which has to do with P.Alexandra. it says something about queen magrethe and martin's (alexandra's boyfriend) father doesn't it?
can someone give a brief summery?
thank you!
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08-18-2006, 09:17 AM
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hallo everyone,
i found an article in B.T. which has to do with P.Alexandra. it says something about queen magrethe and martin's (alexandra's boyfriend) father doesn't it?
can someone give a brief summery?
thank you!
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If you mean this article, it says that Martin's father's company, JJ Film, has just received money (25,000 DK, as one out of 52 causes that have been awarded money) from Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik's fund, and that this should be taken as a sign that they approve of Martin (which doesn't have anything to do with it really)...
The money from the fund will be used to finish a portrait film about Hans Edward Nørregård-Nielsen.
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08-18-2006, 04:56 PM
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thank you very much for the summery.i had understand something but you made it clear. however i believe that the queen doesn't seem to disapprove the relation between martin and alexandra or at least she doesn't want to give that impression
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08-18-2006, 05:52 PM
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Greetings!
I know this probably has nothing to do here, but very quickly: Princess Alexandra will remain with the title Princess as long as she does not re-marry, right? If she re-marries, then she loses that title and is only allowed the title of Countess.
Here is my question: If Joachim re-marries, what will be the title of his new wife? Princess? And if it is to be Princess, wouldn't it be awkward for Alexandra to still be titled Princess (if at the time of this happening she has not re-married and lost Princess title) while Joachim's new wife is also given that title???
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