Prince Christian, Current Events 1: November 2005 - July 2006

[Ariel]

He works in Denmark, he is a math professor in a danish university. Why Fredrick shouldn't tolerate him? what did he do to deserve such a critic appreciation?

[grevinnan]

John Donaldson is now part of Fredrick's family. In most families in-laws are loved and appreciated and cherished participants.

[princess olga]

Originally Posted by PreDoc

Hopefully you're right and I perhaps saw something incorrectly. I know several Scots and they are wonderful to party with, but since alcoholism is a genetic disease, I wouldn't wish that nightmare on any family.

But I digress, the thread is about this perfect little prince ... so with that said, please let's return to our normal programming :)

good idea. I'm all for digressing sometimes, as it can be interesting/amusing, but seriously, you seem to really take the cake with your generalization about Scottish people and implication that somehow they genetically are prone to alcoholism. That they're great to party with, but not much else. (by the way are you talking about the same Scots who moved to north America and whose workaholic tendencies, if I may generalize, contributed to the continent being the industrious monstrosity it is today?) Anyways, How, then, would you explain Mary's accomplishments in life (even life before she met her husband), or the highly-accomplished Mr. Donaldson, a respected math professor? Who says he's an alcoholic?

Even if he's drinking a beer or two next to his grandson, why is that so bad? It's not like the kid will remember this! No one remembers anything from the first year of their lives.
And as someone else pointed out, being in the vicinities of Queen Margarethe would be much much worse for the kid than merely sitting next to a beer. The Danish queen smokes like there's no tomorrow, and we all know how that habit can take years off of the lives of the non smokers in your environment. Jeez. If you want to be <reverent>, as you stated in another post, be reverent to Mr. Donaldson. The guy has never hurt a fly in his life.

[lise]

Originally Posted by PreDoc

Hopefully you're right and I perhaps saw something incorrectly. I know several Scots and they are wonderful to party with, but since alcoholism is a genetic disease, I wouldn't wish that nightmare on any family.

But I digress, the thread is about this perfect little prince ... so with that said, please let's return to our normal programming :)

Excellent idea but since when were all Scots alcoholics. One of my grandmothers closest friends is Scottish. She likes to drink but she knows when to stop.

[lise]

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

The "individual" ist Professor Dr. John Donaldson. Prof. Donaldson has been awarded his academic titles due to intellectual contributions to the general knowledge of mankind. Even though most people including me will never be able to evaluate these contributions, other academics are and decided first to promote him from simple "Mr." to "Dr." Donaldson and then to appoint him to the position of academic teacher at an university. This granted him the title of Professor. The university of Copenhagen is a very reknown university when it comes to science and maths. A friend of my husband is a prof there and he told me that to invite prof. Donaldson as a guest professor was only due to his standing in the academic world, even though they were happy to provide the crown princely pair with this opportunity to see Mary's parents more often. But it is absolutely common for foreign scientist to spent time in Copenhagen. Our friend eg is German.

Another point: These academic titles are the only ones recognized in all countries of the world. They tell of the wish and the success of an individual to explore and explain the world, thus helping all of us. While titles you are born to only exist in some countries, eg monarchies. In Britain eg inherited title come after the earned ones. Eg Professor Doktor The Earl of Thisandthat. Or Sir Robert, The Duke of Nowandthen. Germany does not know any inherited titles anymore.

So Prof. Donaldson has titles of a very different rank from the ones held by his son-in-law and his daughter.

Plus: who are we to decide what is good for the little prince and what is not? He has after all a grandmother who is constantly smoking. Is this better than a grandfather who occassionally has a drink (if he has, I don't know, I didn't see the pictures and have no personal knowledge)? A child does not drink alcohol only because the person next to it does it. But a child inhales smoke when he is a guest in the home of a smokeress. So why not ask for a separation of prince Christian from Her Majesty?

Stupid idea, I know... :)

Actually I think it's a good idea to separate prince christian from the Queen when she is smoking.

[betina]

Originally Posted by lise

Actually I think it's a good idea to separate prince christian from the Queen when she is smoking.

I think its worse that his dad Crownprince Frederik still smokes.

[Yennie]

What on earth would be the problem if adults are drinking around a little baby?

The little prince hardly knows where his bellybutton is, so I dont think he can identify beer either :)

[Sira]

I did not know that CP Frederick was a smoker.

[bbb]

i think i read fred had quick smoking before they got married. am i correct?

[sm1939]

Originally Posted by bbb

i think i read fred had quick smoking before they got married. am i correct?

I heard that as well , that he had quick!

[betina]

The only person in the roayl family that doesnt smoke is Mary

[fromEU]

Originally Posted by betina

The only person in the roayl family that doesnt smoke is Mary

No, Frederik has quit, Henrik has quit. Alexandra has smoked, but it is many years(90es) since I have seen a picture or read about it. Only Joachim and the Queen still smokes.

[sara1981]

Originally Posted by fromEU

No, Frederik has quit, Henrik has quit. Alexandra has smoked, but it is many years(90es) since I have seen a picture or read about it. Only Joachim and the Queen still smokes.

oh really but need suggestion HM Queen quit smoking because she very heavy i dont blame her.

im been smoker for 6 years and i decide myself to quit because i had lung surgery in 1993 but my boyfriend not smoker i think to quit myself.

[Lizy]

Quick, call child services! I have no idea how this little baby will ever survive with alcoholics and smokers in the family!!!
I can't believe anyone finds it so terrible that Mary's dad may have had a beer whilst in the company of Prince Christian.
Plus, as a Scot, I find the generalisation that we all have a drink problem very tiresome. It must have been in a rare moment of sobriety that the telephone, television, anaesthetics, penecillin, logarithms etc etc were invented.
Oh well, it's 13:25 now, time for my next whisky shot to get me through the afternoon. (I am joking )

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Lizy

Quick, call child services! I have no idea how this little baby will ever survive with alcoholics and smokers in the family!!!
I can't believe anyone finds it so terrible that Mary's dad may have had a beer whilst in the company of Prince Christian.
Plus, as a Scot, I find the generalisation that we all have a drink problem very tiresome. It must have been in a rare moment of sobriety that the telephone, television, anaesthetics, penecillin, logarithms etc etc were invented.
Oh well, it's 13:25 now, time for my next whisky shot to get me through the afternoon. (I am joking )

Lizy - no need to tell that you are joking. Next to noone here on the forum believes in generalizations of that kind! :)

[sm1939]

Originally Posted by Lizy

Quick, call child services! I have no idea how this little baby will ever survive with alcoholics and smokers in the family!!!
I can't believe anyone finds it so terrible that Mary's dad may have had a beer whilst in the company of Prince Christian.
Plus, as a Scot, I find the generalisation that we all have a drink problem very tiresome. It must have been in a rare moment of sobriety that the telephone, television, anaesthetics, penecillin, logarithms etc etc were invented.
Oh well, it's 13:25 now, time for my next whisky shot to get me through the afternoon. (I am joking )

you did make me laugh!! you tell them!

[Royal Fan]

Frederik doesnt Smoke anymore. :)

[Kelly]

Well it is not like the prince spends all day long with his parents and I am sure they take care of him. I think Princess Mary is very health conscious and would like the same of her own child.( just my opinion.)

[Rebafan81]

Originally Posted by Lizy

Quick, call child services! I have no idea how this little baby will ever survive with alcoholics and smokers in the family!!!
I can't believe anyone finds it so terrible that Mary's dad may have had a beer whilst in the company of Prince Christian.
Plus, as a Scot, I find the generalisation that we all have a drink problem very tiresome. It must have been in a rare moment of sobriety that the telephone, television, anaesthetics, penecillin, logarithms etc etc were invented.
Oh well, it's 13:25 now, time for my next whisky shot to get me through the afternoon. (I am joking )

You really made me laugh, thanks for the joke!

[norwegianne]

Please stay on topic - while discussion on general healthcare may be interesting and whatnot, this is not the place.