General News about Joachim, Marie and Family Part 5: September 2019 - December 2020

[eya]

Princess Marie is on the cover of Danish magazine Femina



https://twitter.com/HeavenQRF/status...999424/photo/2

Originally Posted by polyesco

Joachim has given an interview to BilledBladet in Paris.
Where he reveals that he has given up smoking.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...ttet-smoegerne

Part of the interview in English

https://princessmariescloset.com/201...l-documentary/

Prince Joachim and Princess Marie give interview to Paris Match

https://princessmariescloset.com/201...o-paris-match/

https://twitter.com/HeavenQRF/status...304448/photo/2

[Muhler]

I guess the photos are from Schackenborg. I seem to remember the painting of Joachim hanging there. Saw it in an article or docu somewhere.

[polyesco]

Joachim has given an interview to BilledBladet in Paris.
Where he reveals that he has given up smoking.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...ttet-smoegerne

[ladongas]

Originally Posted by polyesco

Joachim has given an interview to BilledBladet in Paris.
Where he reveals that he has given up smoking.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...ttet-smoegerne

Gosh, I always assumed that smoking was mandatory for those living in France!

[gerry]

Originally Posted by polyesco

Joachim has given an interview to BilledBladet in Paris.
Where he reveals that he has given up smoking.
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...ttet-smoegerne

Great news, bravo Prince Joachim

[Muhler]

It is quite an extensive interview, where he touch a number of personal issues, including the public view of him. - From his point of view of course.

[gerry]

Originally Posted by Muhler

It is quite an extensive interview, where he touch a number of personal issues, including the public view of him. - From his point of view of course.

it will be an interesting read, mange tak!

[Muhler]

Thanks for the link, Eya.

I brilliant translation. I have noting to add.

[gerry]

Originally Posted by eya

Part of the interview in English

https://princessmariescloset.com/201...l-documentary/

Thank you indeed for posting this with the partial translation. I enjoyed reading the Danish idiom very much: 'skinning the bear..'; 'blood on the teeth' etc are very evocative One expression, however, escaped me and I wanted to ask about 'burning the spice'....because the meaning is not clear in the translated context. I would be so grateful for Danish speaking input, mange tak

[Muhler]

Ah, that's gunpowder not spice.
It's about not burning off the gunpowder.

= Not wasting all the shots/opportunities/options and so on in one go.

[gerry]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Ah, that's gunpowder not spice.
It's about not burning off the gunpowder.

= Not wasting all the shots/opportunities/options and so on in one go.

Aha, that makes much more sense! Thank you Muhler

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by eya

Prince Joachim and Princess Marie give interview to Paris Match

https://princessmariescloset.com/201...o-paris-match/

Thanks for highlighting it. It give a neat view of their lives without revealing much. After reading the summary I am mainly wondering what Marie considers 'difficult' about not having employees taking care of the family while she is currently a stay-at-home mom and her children are at school 8 hours a day... So, that doesn't seem that complicated to me.

[tommy100]

Hmm doesn't exactly seem all that taxing does it really. But I guess maybe they are use to having people around to help in which case not having any might require some adjustment.

[Somebody]

I assume the whole move to Paris required quite some adjustments for everyone involved and apparently adding to that 'running your own household' was perceived as difficult. However, it's good for the family to experience at least somewhat of a 'normal family life'. That will hopefully help appreciate what most families go through in terms of balancing work and family life.

Would it be true that the majority of the Danes doesn't have one of the parents stay home full-time? Would they normally both work full-time or what is considered 'normal' for the average Dane?

[JR76]

Originally Posted by Somebody

Would it be true that the majority of the Danes doesn't have one of the parents stay home full-time? Would they normally both work full-time or what is considered 'normal' for the average Dane?

Two working parents are the norm both in Denmark and the other Nordic countries. Without looking up numbers I know that there's a bit of a discrepancy when it comes to the level of full-time employment between male and females but the general norm is still full-time employment. That said it's not uncommon for one of the parents (guess which one) to work lesser hours during the first few years of their child's life.

[MJudith]

Except that princess Marie never actually said anything that is reported on this thread...

I have no idea if the person that is behind the Princess Marie's closet is French but she definitely did not give an accurate translation of what was being said.

What was said was :

"Vous vous occupez de vos enfants, sans personnel dédié. Comment faites-vous ?

M. de D. Je cours sans cesse. Mais je vois grandir Henrik et Athena. L’essentiel, pour nous, était de préserver le cercle familial avec tout ce qu’il représente de sécurité et de continuité. "


Literally :

" You are taking care of your children without nannies? How do you do it? "


Marie : I am always on the run. But I can see Henrik and Athena grow up. The main thing for us was to maintain the family unity in all its security and continuity"



and that was the end of it....

In France, the norm is also to have two working parents...

[Somebody]

Thanks! Good to know what she actually said.

[MARG]

I was interested to read about the difference in school, both in hours and curriculum. I recently watched a documentary with Michael Moore talking to Finnish students in their early to mid teens and comparing their education to the US and most of the western world.

He was amazed at the lifestyle approach to learning and how the kids were far more well rounded and better educated than their US peers with far less time spent in school and with little to no homework.

He's was staggered (as am I) by how many of the teens were not only bi-lingual but multi-lingual. I believe the Danish educational system and lifestyle is not too dissimilar, so that would mean the culture shock for Henrik and Athena must have been more than a litte unpleasant.

Marie speaking on their Danish style Christmas plans was almost a relief.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by MARG

I was interested to read about the difference in school, both in hours and curriculum. I recently watched a documentary with Michael Moore talking to Finnish students in their early to mid teens and comparing their education to the US and most of the western world.

He was amazed at the lifestyle approach to learning and how the kids were far more well rounded and better educated than their US peers with far less time spent in school and with little to no homework.

He's was staggered (as am I) by how many of the teens were not only bi-lingual but multi-lingual. I believe the Danish educational system and lifestyle is not too dissimilar, so that would mean the culture shock for Henrik and Athena must have been more than a litte unpleasant.

Marie speaking on their Danish style Christmas plans was almost a relief.

If that's the Michael Moore docu I remember, he also dealt with the French school system. In particular the emphasis on the food they are served in schools. - Because in many countries children have not eaten or at least had a healthy meal before coming to school, (Including DK) because they are poor, or because the children get up and go to school by themselves (or with other siblings) because both parents have already left for work.

I believe the French school-system is a little more formal (in regards to addressing the teachers) and more structured than in DK, with much more emphasis on individual classes, rather than themes involving and overlapping the various fields - say biology, Danish, science, math and orientation about the society in relation to a weekly theme about energy.
But keep in mind that Athena and Henrik attended a French school in DK. So the cultural shock may not have been that great.

[MJudith]

French system is very formal in addressing the teachers, university included.
It was a bit of a shock when my master supervisor in the UK insisted that I use his first name when writing to him and stop starting my email by "Dear professor"

It is very rare that there is an overlapping theme across different classes except in dedicated courses that are made on purpose to mix two academic fields.

The 8 hours day is (IMO) very handy for working mums but maybe a bit long for students , Regular hours for children until 10 are 8h30 am to 4H30 pm it is even extended up to 6h30 pm on many schools for "personal study time" for a small fee.

I think that to give a fair comparison, number of students per class should be taken into account too. It is very common to have more than 30 students per class in France