General News about Frederik, Mary and Family Part 14: September 2015 - December 2015

[camelot23ca]

Thank you, everyone, for the great pictures of the book fair outing, (and special thanks to Muhler for the BB file). The kids look like they had a great time!

[Archduchess Zelia]

Vincent holding his hand up in front of Mary's camera is priceless

Originally Posted by HereditaryPrincess

I never said that it wasn't a book fair or that it was a children's book fair in my original post.
I'm not going to discuss this anymore because I don't want this to turn "bigger" (if that makes sense) as I don't feel up to debates at the moment as I'm still going through a very rough time.

You wrote that it seemed to be aimed at younger children; Nordic replied that the children's section is only a part of the fair; you then write, "It was referred to as a book fair on the previous posts before mine which is why I called it that"; and I proceeded to merely confirm that you were right, that it was, indeed, a book fair. Neither of us tried to start an argument with you

[carlota]

i found this interesting post in a blog of an 'image strategy' of the court to improve mary's image back in 2007:

Even though she'd been hugely popular ever since she was discovered by the Danish press, crown princess Mary also had the image of being mainly interested in horses, luxury and designer clothes. On top of that the thorough renovation of Frederik and Mary's palace at Amalienborg had a very high cost.

A crown princess needs a different image so court contacted a few tabloids and let them know they'd be able to make interesting photos at a certain moment, on a certain spot.

They saw Mary coming out of a private enterance of Kancellihuset carrying a barely filled garbage bag. Danish and international magazines all published this image with about the same comments: "the other side of a princess's life" ... "Mary's not too grand to take the trash out" etc.

Mary from the start: Solving an image problem

Royal Lovestory Frederik & Mary von Dänemark Teil 3 - Dailymotion-Video

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by carlota

i found this interesting post in a blog of an 'image strategy' of the court to improve mary's image back in 2007:



Mary from the start: Solving an image problem

Royal Lovestory Frederik & Mary von Dänemark Teil 3 - Dailymotion-Video

Mary using her experience in marketing?
Oh, yes. That's very evident. Especially in regards to communication.

Mary is very good at getting a message across and she uses all the tricks of the trade when she is being interviewed about something or talking about something on a video.

If a photographer was alerted in regards to snapping Mary taking out the trash I don't know. It doesn't sound implausible, but when M&F lived at Kancellihuset, especially during summer, there were constantly photographers hanging around. - It's a neat little trick though.

[iceflower]

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Posts about Crown Prince Frederik and Prince Christian attending the soccer match on November 17 have been moved to the following thread:

** General News about the Danish Royal Family Part 3: November 2015 - **

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by Muhler

If a photographer was alerted in regards to snapping Mary taking out the trash I don't know. It doesn't sound implausible, but when M&F lived at Kancellihuset, especially during summer, there were constantly photographers hanging around. - It's a neat little trick though.

I always thought that this story does not sound very plausible because if you want to manipulate the media you don't do it in such an obvious and crude way, especially if you have a background in marketing.
No, it's not a neat little trick because it's transparent and it can backfire (e.g. Mary-haters like carlota will not hesitate to bring it up again years later, claiming they just "found" it ).

Btw Count Alexander von Schönburg whose "testimony" is mentioned works for "Bild-Zeitung" and this paper has a reputation for inventing or embroidering stories.

[ashelen]

The photo of Mary taking the trash out, it isa very old photo and I believe it was even before she married Fred!

[carlota]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Mary using her experience in marketing?
Oh, yes. That's very evident. Especially in regards to communication.

Mary is very good at getting a message across and she uses all the tricks of the trade when she is being interviewed about something or talking about something on a video.

i am not sure where you read that mulher. the article does not mention mary used her experience in marketing? maybe the video does?

Originally Posted by ricarda

No, it's not a neat little trick because it's transparent and it can backfire (e.g. Mary-haters like carlota will not hesitate to bring it up again years later, claiming they just "found" it ).

funnily enough, i did just find it - and for you to confirm that yourself, since you seem to keep good track of me, open the blog post and you will see they just published that photo 1 day ago in their blog! so, in any case, they did just find it, and they are not those 'mary haters', like me, as you suggest (and no, i am no mary hater. you can go fight those off in other forums if you wish). i suggest you refrain from assuming things and accusing other people without any knowledge. there's other forums where your negative attitude is welcome, not here, dear ricarda.

The photo of Mary taking the trash out, it isa very old photo and I believe it was even before she married Fred!

no ashelen. ziggy was given to the couple after they married.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by carlota

i am not sure where you read that mulher. the article does not mention mary used her experience in marketing? maybe the video does?

I didn't. That's my opinion based on observations over the years.

Mary does utilize her experience in marketing in her job as Crown Princess. Especially in regards to communication, not least verbal communication.
There are many examples of that and I have personally mentioned that quite a number of times here on TRF.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by carlota

i suggest you refrain from assuming things and accusing other people without any knowledge. there's other forums where your negative attitude is welcome, not here, dear ricarda.

I am here long enough to have been able to form an opinion about you. And please tell me more about those other forums with negative attitudes. You seem to know them well, dear carlota.

[Roskilde]

Originally Posted by Roskilde

Hope this Christimas news is correct

Her&Nu writes that Frederik, Mary and all four children in most of December month will be traveling home to Tasmania to Mary's family. Here they will celebrate Christmas and Mary's sister Jane's 50th birthday (she has birthday on the 26th December).

The DRF's communications chef Lene Balleby said: "We can't comment about that yet."

I hope it's correct. It could be nice, especially for the children to try an Australian Christmas. We know last year F&M had planned to hold a large Donaldson Christmas home in Copenhagen, but had to cancel because of the large royal family Christmas at Fredensbrog, so I think there could be something about it

If, we will soon hear more.

Billed Bladet now confirms that the Crown Prince family will travel to Tasmania and celebrate Christmas with Mary's family this year So I think we now can count on a Donaldson family Christmas.
http://www.billedbladet.dk/billed-bl...-efter-eventyr

Billed Bladet has most likely contacted the Danish Royal Court and asked since they have been waiting to bring the news until today.

I see Frederik will be Denmark's regent until the 6th December. Perhaps the family thereafter packs their suitcases and begin the long travel (26+ hours in flights) home to Tasmania.

[polyesco]

Such happy news for the family.
I'm sure it will be exciting.

When is the school holiday? I guess we dont know the actual dates.
Frederik is the patron this year for the Women's handball tournament that goes from Dec 5th to Dec. 20th.

Either way. How nice that the family gets to enjoy their first Australian Christmas

[minstrel2010]

Will I be correct in thinking the family will not all be flying together,I:e CP Frederick not flying with Christian.


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[Muhler]

Originally Posted by minstrel2010

Will I be correct in thinking the family will not all be flying together,I:e CP Frederick not flying with Christian.


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That has indeed been the case in by far the most cases. We'll see when they land in Australia.

[Muhler]

Billed Bladet this week has an article about M&F going to Tasmania for Christmas.
There are few concrete details though, but nevertheless a few details worth mentioning.

Mary's sister, Jane Stephens, turn 50 on 26th December and that will in all likelihood be celebrated with the Donaldson clan who will gather in Tasmania.

There will however be a few differences for the family in regards to Christmas, not only in regards to the menu, but more importantly in regards to the presents!
In DK presents are opened on the 24th, in Australia on the 25th, and while Christian and Bella are old enough to understand that I'm not so sure the twins, and perhaps in particular Josephine will find that acceptable.
I have a feeling they will find it perfectly reasonable if Australia change the whole present-thing to the 24th. - I mean, they have (chocolate)-calendars to back their claim. No more chocolates = Christmas = presents.

The climate is also a bit different. Christmas in Tasmania means temperatures of some 15-25 degrees C (59-77 F).

There is no mentioning of official duties, but I should be very surprised indeed if there are none, since M&F will pend several weeks in Australia. The DRF always at the very least promote Danish commerce and Danish-Australian relations are obvious choices.
And I think it's virtually a must with a major photo call with the children, perhaps to a zoo? That's a PR opportunity too good to omit.

BB does indeed mention the 125th anniversary of University of Tasmania, which host a gala event in December.

I also think M&F will rent a villa somewhere on Tasmania rather than staying with relatives. Partly because it's nice with relatives visiting, but for several weeks?!? But mainly because the family is now so big it's a problem to house them - no to mention nannies, perhaps additional staff, like a stylist and so on. And it will security wise be easier to secure a villa rather than a private house in the middle of a residential area.

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by Muhler

I also think M&F will rent a villa somewhere on Tasmania rather than staying with relatives. Partly because it's nice with relatives visiting, but for several weeks?!? But mainly because the family is now so big it's a problem to house them - no to mention nannies, perhaps additional staff, like a stylist and so on.

Nannies yes, but why would she have the need for the stylist to stay with the family during a private visit?

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Nordic

Nannies yes, but why would she have the need for the stylist to stay with the family during a private visit?

Only part of their stay, for styling up Mary at at least the gala and perhaps other events. Even though they are on holiday, they are also official representatives for DK, so I expect they do more than one official show.
And perhaps Lene Balleby and an official for the court will make a brief appearance as well?
Easier and cheaper to house them all in a villa.

[Nordic]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Only part of their stay, for styling up Mary at at least the gala and perhaps other events. Even though they are on holiday, they are also official representatives for DK, so I expect they do more than one official show.

Are you sure you mean stylist, as in Anja Aladji?
If they attend the gala dinner, the outfit is, I'm sure, already decided. And outfits for possible other more official things.
And I'm sure a hairdresser and someone to do the makeup can be found in Tasmania

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Nordic

Are you sure you mean stylist, as in Anja Aladji?
If they attend the gala dinner, the outfit is, I'm sure, already decided. And outfits for possible other more official things.
And I'm sure a hairdresser and someone to do the makeup can be found in Tasmania

I've been talking with Roskilde about that and you may be right. It's more likely Mary will use a local hairdresser.

Then what do I know about hair?

[Roskilde]

Originally Posted by polyesco

Such happy news for the family.
I'm sure it will be exciting.

When is the school holiday? I guess we dont know the actual dates.
Frederik is the patron this year for the Women's handball tournament that goes from Dec 5th to Dec. 20th.

Either way. How nice that the family gets to enjoy their first Australian Christmas

I can see Billed Bladet not mentions any dates. It seems like a totally private family visit to me.

But the DRF calender has today changed Frederik from being Denmark's regent from 27th November to 6th December - now he will be Denmark's regent from 27th December to 4th December.
Mary's last official event is on 1st December. Today the DRF's calender has been updated until 10th December. And F&M (who otherwise always have lots of events every week) have no official event (so far) after 4th December.

So me think they will be traveling around 4th-5th December. And stay in Australia for 3 weeks. Australia is simply too far away from Denmark to be shorter in the country than 3 weeks. The Danish school children's Christmas holiday begin later in December and that means C, I, V, J will be taken out of school and kindergarten (if they travels on the days I think). This is perfectly acceptable when it is done so rare and mother's family live on the other side of the world. C & I will most likely get homework with them which they can do during their weeks in Tasmania.

And let's so hope the very low key information results in the media let the humble Donaldson family in peace during the Christmas.

I certainly think we will see the family attend events in connection with the 125th anniversary of University of Tasmania during their weeks in Tasmania.