General News about Frederik, Mary and Family 9: May - December 2011

[ashelen]

lovely photos!
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who is the body guard? with shirt and tie in the middle of the day?

[grevinnan]

Originally Posted by ashelen

lovely photos!
JV.dk - Nyheder - Udland - Kvalitetstid i Frankrig: Frederik, Mary og børnene nyder hinandens selskab
who is the body guard? with shirt and tie in the middle of the day?

Looks like the butler. To out of shape to be a body guard.

[marine2109]

Crown Prince Frederik and Prince Christian on Weekends

Billed-Bladet - Kronprins Frederik og prins Christian på herretur

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[ashelen]

Originally Posted by grevinnan

Looks like the butler. To out of shape to be a body guard.

HAHA you ar right, may be the butler!!!!it is a kind offunny everybody with relax outfits informal and he with the tie, look so out of place, but if he is working probably the right outfit!

[iceflower]

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Posts about the Royal Family attending the memorial service for the victims in Norway
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** The Danish Royal Family Current Events: Part 6 (April 2010 - ) **

[shari-aree]

Given their status, it would be hard for them not to be aware they are being photographed - they'd just expect it I reckon.

But, I hope they had an enjoyable holiday anyway.

They looked relaxed!

[ashelen]

wow the vacation is finish! how long it was????? Pity I like to see them on vacation in private like normal people!

[MARG]

Well that is not going to happen as long as their are paparazzi with long lenses, helicopters, fast boats and less ethical publications willing to print their wares to an audience with a voracious appetite for "private" photographs and intimate conversations.

Witness the 'Lip Readers' employed to catch every little word exchanged or whispered in the Abby during William and Catherine's wedding. (Also interesting that different lip readers read different words!). Is it any wonder that Royal Families are being accused of being cold or remote.

OK, now the NOTW is out of action for illegal and amoral activities regarding private voice mail, I am just waiting for some royal or celebrity to discover their home, apartment, hotel room, etc. electronically bugged, both audio and video!!

As long as there is a market they will continue and we on this forum are just as culpable by posting such photo's and links. (As am I for taking such pleasure in looking at them!)

[shari-aree]

...I am just waiting for some royal or celebrity to discover their home, apartment, hotel room, etc. electronically bugged, both audio and video!!

As long as there is a market they will continue and we on this forum are just as culpable by posting such photo's and links. (As am I for taking such pleasure in looking at them!)

As are we all ! ... but I'd like to think as 'Royal Watchers' that we have 'pure intentions' !!! - maybe that thought will ease your guilt!

[helenbeee]

As are we all ! ... but I'd like to think as 'Royal Watchers' that we have 'pure intentions' !!! - maybe that thought will ease your guilt!

This really fills me with dismay. These people whilst belonging to the royal family are not available 24/7 for public display. They perform their public duty and are pretty good in being photographed in public places even when they are not on duty. But to obtain fotos whilst they are in the privacy of what is essentially their home (even if it is a hotel when we are on holidays we regard our accommodation as our domain where we can relax and feel secure) makes me feel there is something really wrong about it particularly fotos of the kids when they are not supervised by adults. One foto from this series disturbed me as a parent where Isabella is looking straight down the camera its when no adults are around and its obvious the photographer has called out her name to get her to look in the right direction. I would really like to see these fotos removed from the royal forums I always thought that we were above this calibre of fotos for discussion.
Its really not right it wasnt right with Diana and its not right with the current royals. I would not like to feel I had contributed to any other fate similar to the one Diana was forced into.

[Duke of Marmalade]

helenbeee
This really fills me with dismay. These people whilst belonging to the royal family are not available 24/7 for public display. They perform their public duty and are pretty good in being photographed in public places even when they are not on duty. But to obtain fotos whilst they are in the privacy of what is essentially their home (even if it is a hotel when we are on holidays we regard our accommodation as our domain where we can relax and feel secure) makes me feel there is something really wrong about it particularly fotos of the kids when they are not supervised by adults. One foto from this series disturbed me as a parent where Isabella is looking straight down the camera its when no adults are around and its obvious the photographer has called out her name to get her to look in the right direction. I would really like to see these fotos removed from the royal forums I always thought that we were above this calibre of fotos for discussion.
Its really not right it wasnt right with Diana and its not right with the current royals. I would not like to feel I had contributed to any other fate similar to the one Diana was forced into.

Well, its not that easy. Many people are more interested in what royals do outside from performing boring public duty . Although I agree there is a limit to intrusion into privacy, while being funded by the public, royals are public figures and have to live with the fact that they are subject to public interest 24/7. Apart from that, there is a serious business behind it (media, photographers) and a lot is on a give and take basis since royals need the media to survive and are no stranger to manipulation (Diana being a good example).

[camelot23ca]

It seems like that side of the estate in France is always where the photographers are able to get these private shots. I'm not familiar with the layout of the grounds but would it not be possible for the royals to put up some sort of wall or hedge to block the view?

[ashelen]

you can google earth it and you can see the place it is alone between a lot of green so I can not imaginehow this paparrazzi do it?????

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by camelot23ca

It seems like that side of the estate in France is always where the photographers are able to get these private shots. I'm not familiar with the layout of the grounds but would it not be possible for the royals to put up some sort of wall or hedge to block the view?

I dont think that would go down well with the Danish media.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

I dont think that would go down well with the Danish media.

Nor with the DRF for that matter.
There is a great view from the terrace over the river, why spoil that with a wall?
And as it is very difficult for photographers to hide on that side of the chateau, they will know someone is there taking pictures. - And eventually they'll go away. Which is why I believe they ought to go out and meet the press, so that the magazines will have something to work with.

Don't know about the French legislation but according to Danish legislation such pictures are a clear breach of the law of privacy and should something similar happen at say Gråsten or Marselisborg and the DRF sued, they would win hands down.
That applies to ordinary citizens as well of course. If you come to where I live and you find the area so charming, that you simply must have a picture of the row of houses on the road, that would be acceptable, because that's not specifically aimed at anyone, also if you happen to photograph me in my garden.
However if you spot me in my front garden wearing my Borat-swimming costume (and don't go blind instantly) and decided to take a picture of me (that is, if the camera even works) that would be a clear breach of the laws of privacy. Especially if you published the picture. - You will have to get my permission first.

In all fairness I should add that if I really was in the habit of working in my front garden in the Borat outfit, the local police constable would come around and have a chat with me, as doing so in public view would be a borderline breach of the public decency. - Being nude would be a clear breach.

For those who are intrepid enough to look, here is what the outfit looks like: http://www.thepresentfinder.co.uk/im...1r8f8f2n2x.jpg

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Nor with the DRF for that matter.
There is a great view from the terrace over the river, why spoil that with a wall?
And as it is very difficult for photographers to hide on that side of the chateau, they will know someone is there taking pictures. - And eventually they'll go away. Which is why I believe they ought to go out and meet the press, so that the magazines will have something to work with.

Don't know about the French legislation but according to Danish legislation such pictures are a clear breach of the law of privacy and should something similar happen at say Gråsten or Marselisborg and the DRF sued, they would win hands down.

I agree with you, Muhler. Royals suing for pictures when being "private" is almost unprecedented (apart from WA & Maxima but not without controversy). Royals are public figures and enforcing privacy laws can make them unpopular in no time. There should always be the deal of photographers taking their pics and then leave them alone after a while.
But there a limits as well, in my opinion. While I would it find laughable if the DRF had sued the media or put up walls because of the Caix pictures, I would have understood if they had sued when pictures of the naked Christian were distributed, extremely thoughtless of the Danish media (in the same way the Spanish media doesnt hesitate distributing pictures of the Spanish Infantas Leonor of Sofia with full view of the underwear in situations they played around or fell on the floor, shame on the editor).

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

I would have understood if they had sued when pictures of the naked Christian were distributed, extremely thoughtless of the Danish media (in the same way the Spanish media doesnt hesitate distributing pictures of the Spanish Infantas Leonor of Sofia with full view of the underwear in situations they played around or fell on the floor, shame on the editor).

Actually I found the picture of Christian to be sweet and innocent.
How old was he? Three? You'll many naked children that age on the beaches in DK every summer. And they were after all on a public beach.
That won't get me up in arms.
It would be a different matter if he (or worse: his sisters) was ten or older. In which case he shouldn't be naked anywhere in public anyway.

I think we should be careful about covering up our children for fear of potential pedophiles lurking nearby. Countless millions of children have been running around stark ravers for thousands of years without being molested.
We are approaching the state where I can't even take pictures of my own children on a beach without fear of someone calling the police and that's hysterical.

I have never seen pictures of Leonor as you describe them. You mean pictures that are practially upskirt? That's unacceptable. But if she is photographed running around in a swimsuit, that's innocent in my eyes.

[FasterB]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Actually I found the picture of Christian to be sweet and innocent.
How old was he? Three? You'll many naked children that age on the beaches in DK every summer. And they were after all on a public beach.
That won't get me up in arms.
It would be a different matter if he (or worse: his sisters) was ten or older. In which case he shouldn't be naked anywhere in public anyway.

I think we should be careful about covering up our children for fear of potential pedophiles lurking nearby. Countless millions of children have been running around stark ravers for thousands of years without being molested.
We are approaching the state where I can't even take pictures of my own children on a beach without fear of someone calling the police and that's hysterical.

I have never seen pictures of Leonor as you describe them. You mean pictures that are practially upskirt? That's unacceptable. But if she is photographed running around in a swimsuit, that's innocent in my eyes.

I´m with on this one, Muhler, as are, I think, most danes

[dbarn67]

Originally Posted by FasterB

I´m with on this one, Muhler, as are, I think, most danes

I don't take this kind of thing lightly given what happened with Amalia and Alexia when they were younger. I understand and agree with Mary & Fred's anger at the possibility that their kid could be used to feed peodophiles sick appetites. Those pictures can be manipulated and sent around the world.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by Muhler

I think we should be careful about covering up our children for fear of potential pedophiles lurking nearby. Countless millions of children have been running around stark ravers for thousands of years without being molested.
We are approaching the state where I can't even take pictures of my own children on a beach without fear of someone calling the police and that's hysterical.

I have never seen pictures of Leonor as you describe them. You mean pictures that are practially upskirt? That's unacceptable. But if she is photographed running around in a swimsuit, that's innocent in my eyes.

Yes, exactly.

And on the other note, I agree with dbarn67, what is supposed to be innocent and normal can easily get manipulated these days, its a shame but true.