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06-21-2013, 12:08 PM
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I agree Duke, I also tend not to wear them (even at home in Dorset) and when I was in Italy last yr and mentioned helmets to some of my cousins before we took off on bikes they looked at me like I had 2 heads and laughed.
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Oh DOM! That was great! The Michelin Man comment was priceless! And we must have grown up around the same time, let's just say 40-ish years old. No helmets, no crazy car seats. I remember being all over the back seat on long trips with my parents. The whole thing was a bed, tent, whatever. Even curl up in the floor board of the back seat sometimes. And I'm still alive and well to tell about it.
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LOL, me too. Whenever my mother would hear about the latest safety regulation she would laugh and say "Oh My, its a wonder any of our children ever survived to adulthood".
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06-21-2013, 12:15 PM
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Oh DOM! That was great! The Michelin Man comment was priceless! And we must have grown up around the same time, let's just say 40-ish years old. No helmets, no crazy car seats. I remember being all over the back seat on long trips with my parents. The whole thing was a bed, tent, whatever. Even curl up in the floor board of the back seat sometimes. And I'm still alive and well to tell about it.
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 Absolutely! Some things are better now, people used to smoke everywhere at that time, even on planes or on TV Shows.
But life has its risks, with or without helmets, and a lot of 40-ish and older people take them because its the way they grew up. In Germany you see lots of families on a day out where the kids wear helmets but the parents don't.
Mary went without functioning lights too, that less forgivable. She should get a fine like everyone else, DRF or not DRF.
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06-22-2013, 01:28 AM
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I agree, they are most welcome. Mary is a fantastic export and has married a lovely man. She has done us proud.
Also:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...OND-place.html
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06-22-2013, 05:01 AM
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Yes, it's nice to see how glad Mary is when she is visiting Australia.
And Frederik, as the decent husband he is, allows his wife to shine.
My little dream is that they would one year go on a tour of Australia onboard Dannebrog. Even though she's an old ship and it's a long journey it could be done and I think she would look very decorative in Sydney harbour.
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06-22-2013, 05:28 PM
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Yes Dannebrog in Sydney Harbour would be a magnificent sight. Such a graceful looking ship, with a wonderful history. I am sure many smaller craft would go out to meet her, and escort her inside the harbour.
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06-23-2013, 08:34 AM
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Yes, it's nice to see how glad Mary is when she is visiting Australia.
And Frederik, as the decent husband he is, allows his wife to shine.
My little dream is that they would one year go on a tour of Australia onboard Dannebrog. Even though she's an old ship and it's a long journey it could be done and I think she would look very decorative in Sydney harbour. 
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Totally agree, but how long would it take to sail from Denmark to Australia?
If Mary, Frederik and children would be on board I guess they should sail from Denmark in exceptionally good time
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06-23-2013, 09:11 AM
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Totally agree, but how long would it take to sail from Denmark to Australia?
If Mary, Frederik and children would be on board I guess they should sail from Denmark in exceptionally good time 
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Not sure. A containership at economic speed takes some 44 days to get to Sydney from DK.
Say some six weeks for Dannebrog to get to Sydney via Suez? Dannebrog is a little slower than a containership and she needs to be refuelled a couple of times.
Supplies is no particular problem, the escorting warship handles that.
I don't know if it's faster to go via Panama.
But with a couple of calls in a few countries on the way, (perhaps combined with a statevisit), where the ship is joined by various members of the DRF, - say some two months to get to Australia.
A tour of the Australian coast lasting say two weeks, then off to New Zealand with a visit there.
A pitstop at Pearl Harbour before going to San Francisco, through Panama to the Caribbian before heading home. Altogether five months.
It'll cost a good deal of money, but Danish commerce would love the idea! So would the Foreign Ministry and not least the Navy.
Two crews needs to be rotated onboard the warship, but Dannebrog can use the same conscript crew. As it is now, conscripts are queuing to serve onboard Danneborg and they would be fighting each other to get on this trip! - Serving onboard Dannebrog is good on any CV. Having been on a five month cruise is even better when applying for a place to a maritime or navy academy.
Aren't there some major event or anniversary in Australia in the next few years where Dannebrog, the DRF and the navy (with Danish businesses benefitting from that)can show the flag? - The 100th anniversary for Gallipolli is coming up, so there might be an opportunity...
ADDED: With all due respect for Perth, I think that port would be bypassed for Singapore, where DK has major economic interests.
So Brisbane first, with M&F flying in from Tasmania. Then Sydney and Melbourne, perhaps Hobart? Before heading for New Zealand.
How is the weather around Australia in say late September?
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06-23-2013, 09:32 PM
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Muhler, what a dream trip that would be for all concerned.
Weather in late September in the southern states (below Brisbane) is still cool with spring typically quite windy and rainy (there is a term here "spring rains").
By late October it is warmer and probably a better time. November even better.
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06-23-2013, 09:38 PM
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Totally agree, but how long would it take to sail from Denmark to Australia?
If Mary, Frederik and children would be on board I guess they should sail from Denmark in exceptionally good time 
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they could do what the BRF did with Britannia. The ship sailed ahead of the tour and the BRF flew out to meet it. THose were the days! Entertaining locals on board a little bit of Britain - wonderful
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06-23-2013, 09:44 PM
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I think this would not be feasible. It takes them away from their families and other work commitments for too long. There are also safety and insurance issues.
It does sound rather romantic though and would certainly get a lot of coverage.
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06-23-2013, 09:58 PM
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Doesn't Australia already have a royal family? The idea that Dannebrog should make a trip around the world for Mary is rather farfetched. That Fredrik and Mary are the royals invited to celebrate the opera house seems like a major royal faux pas. I am very surprised Queen Margrethe allowed it.
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06-23-2013, 11:00 PM
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Doesn't Australia already have a royal family? The idea that Dannebrog should make a trip around the world for Mary is rather farfetched. That Fredrik and Mary are the royals invited to celebrate the opera house seems like a major royal faux pas. I am very surprised Queen Margrethe allowed it.
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By that you mean the English royal family I suppose. Well, to me she is Australian and is therefore a more appropriate connection. There are no Australian people in the English royal family and this couple are often here, behave well and are well loved. Perfect!
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06-24-2013, 01:54 AM
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I think the fact that the Sydney Opera House, was conceived and largely built by a Danish architect and is in Australia, points perfectly to the Danish Crown Prince along with his wife (who is Australian by birth) to be there for the 40th anniversary. its just the perfect connection.
Any maybe the BRF were invited but no one could make it?
But i think the organizers wanted the CP couple to be there, it just makes perfect sense given the background of it all.
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06-24-2013, 03:05 AM
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I think the fact that the Sydney Opera House, was conceived and largely built by a Danish architect and is in Australia, points perfectly to the Danish Crown Prince along with his wife (who is Australian by birth) to be there for the 40th anniversary. its just the perfect connection.
Any maybe the BRF were invited but no one could make it?
But i think the organizers wanted the CP couple to be there, it just makes perfect sense given the background of it all.
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My understanding, from an interview of who's who at the Sydney Opera House, is that the BRF were not considered (not surprising since the English had nothing to do with it). They knew who they wanted and it was the perfect match you described. They said the invitation was given with great hopes and much excitement and received with the same. Lovely.
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06-24-2013, 04:36 AM
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As an Australian, I see Mary as my "honorary" Aussie Princess, even tho I see her as a thoroughly Danish citizen. Gosh, That doesn't make much sense, but there you have it!!! Everyone in Australia knows that Mr Utzon a Danish Architect was responsible initially for the Sydney Opera House. So the Danish theme of having the Danish Crown Prince Couple here to celebrate the anniversary is quite fitting.
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06-24-2013, 05:33 AM
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Muhler, what a dream trip that would be for all concerned.
Weather in late September in the southern states (below Brisbane) is still cool with spring typically quite windy and rainy (there is a term here "spring rains").
By late October it is warmer and probably a better time. November even better.
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It would yes. 
I thought so about the weather. But the problem is that Dannebrog needs to be back by no later than late November or stretching it, early December, in order for her to be refitted for the summer cruise the year after.
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they could do what the BRF did with Britannia. The ship sailed ahead of the tour and the BRF flew out to meet it. THose were the days! Entertaining locals on board a little bit of Britain - wonderful
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That's exactly what I had in mind. 
And as a Dane I would also feel proud of showing off our royal yacht and presenting our royals in a very good setting.
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I think this would not be feasible. It takes them away from their families and other work commitments for too long. There are also safety and insurance issues.
It does sound rather romantic though and would certainly get a lot of coverage. 
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Safety and insurance isn't that big a deal. That's why there will be a warship escorting Danneborg and she sails routinely in the North Atlantic and even though she has a tendency to roll, she can handle it.
And M&F doesn't have to be away for that long during the cruise. Say three weeks in Australia, including one week with the family before meeting up with Danneborg. And one week or so elsewhere. Isabella and Christian need not be away from school for more than two weeks.
The other members of the DRF can take turn in representing DK onboard Danneborg in other ports in other countries.
However, I think it will be awhile before that would happen. Planning alone from the moment the decision is made would take in my estimate at least three years, probably more likely five years. - And it may not be really realistic until M&F become king and queen.
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06-24-2013, 05:38 AM
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As an Australian, I see Mary as my "honorary" Aussie Princess, even tho I see her as a thoroughly Danish citizen. Gosh, That doesn't make much sense, but there you have it!!! Everyone in Australia knows that Mr Utzon a Danish Architect was responsible initially for the Sydney Opera House. So the Danish theme of having the Danish Crown Prince Couple here to celebrate the anniversary is quite fitting.
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That makes a lot of sense, Tarlita. 
Even though I see Mary as the Danish Crown Princess, I also see her as the foremost ambassador for Australia.
- And she'll remain so for the rest of her life, at very little cost to the Australian taxpayers.
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06-24-2013, 07:37 AM
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That makes a lot of sense, Tarlita. 
Even though I see Mary as the Danish Crown Princess, I also see her as the foremost ambassador for Australia.
- And she'll remain so for the rest of her life, at very little cost to the Australian taxpayers. 
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And what a great job she does too. What a great bargain we have!
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