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01-12-2015, 02:44 PM
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I think it's bad if he crossed after being told by the police not to as it sets a bad example that it doesn't matter what the police say he's riyal and will do what he wants.
But equally no one died and there are bigger more horrific things in the world. Love to hear what QMII has to say about it lol
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01-12-2015, 02:53 PM
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Good grief! They had almost five minutes of this on prime time news tonight!
With terrorrism and the freedom of speech under attack, this is headline news?
Was it stupid? Yes, it was. Frederik has admitted that. Now move on. It wasn't a DUI or anything like that.
Well, according to the newspaper Politiken, the bug has ended at PET. Hoffet giver PET skylden for kronprinsens bro-bisseri - Politiken.dk
Lene Balleby from the court says: "This is the responsibility of the police. The Crown Prince does not have and should not have influence on how transport and security is handled in the most prudent manner and he (Frederik) didn't in this matter".
And in Danish:
Det her er politiets ansvar. Kronprinsen har ikke og skal ikke have indflydelse på, hvordan transport og sikkerhed varetages mest hensigtsmæssigt, og det havde han heller ikke i dette tilfælde
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01-12-2015, 03:10 PM
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Yes, protection officers are charged with protection not going along with any unwise action or decision of their charges. They have to be firm.
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01-12-2015, 03:10 PM
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To be fair I doubt they tied Frederick down to the car and are him cross the bridge
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01-12-2015, 03:28 PM
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Unfortunate act by the Crown Prince. PET officers should be following police orders rule. There was a reason why people couldn't cross. this time nothing happened but maybe next something does.
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01-12-2015, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Muhler
Good grief! They had almost five minutes of this on prime time news tonight!
With terrorsism and the freedom of speech under attack, this is headline news?
Was it stupid? Yes, it was. Frederik has admitted that. Now move on. It wasn't a DUI or anything like that.
Well, accroding to the newspaper Politiken, the bug has ended at PET. Hoffet giver PET skylden for kronprinsens bro-bisseri - Politiken.dk
Lene Balleby from the court says: "This is the responsibillity of the police. The Crown Prince does not hane and should not have influence on how transport and security is handled in the most prudent manner and he (Frederik) didn't in this matter".
And in Danish:
Det her er politiets ansvar. Kronprinsen har ikke og skal ikke have indflydelse på, hvordan transport og sikkerhed varetages mest hensigtsmæssigt, og det havde han heller ikke i dette tilfælde
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so Frederik didnt interfere?
I cant see him going against the advice of his PET officers.
Im glad the DRF responded and not just ignored,
But hopefully the Danish monarchy can survive this "epic" scandal 
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01-12-2015, 05:32 PM
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Frederik really wanted to salute the event in herning. That is admirable. I guess going home he thought it went well the first time...
But his action is very out of the Danish character.
It is not acceptable to skip in a line.
And it is not acceptable to break security rules.
We Danes always wait for the green light, before passing a road.....
This will emerge into a big scandal IMO.
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01-12-2015, 06:05 PM
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Well, I prefer to look at it in a positive light.
If this is considered a "crisis" for the DRF, then we certainly have a very well-behaved royal family here in DK.
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01-12-2015, 06:11 PM
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If this counts as a royal scandal this truly must be a shiny happy country. teenage prostitutes? Real estate fraud? Potential military coup? Illegimate kids? Small potatoes! We have prince who crossed a bridge without permission.
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01-12-2015, 06:21 PM
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From reading the online comments and on twitter, most seem to make light of the situation (most are Danes)
the statement from the court says that Frederik didnt intervene on PET matters, I guess if the PET officers saw it as a huge security risk they wouldnt have done it.
all in all, the court commented on this issue right away which was good.
if this does become a huge scandal then i guess the DRF was already on a rocky road (i dont think so)
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01-12-2015, 06:54 PM
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Frederik really wanted to salute the event in herning. That is admirable. I guess going home he thought it went well the first time...
But his action is very out of the Danish character.
It is not acceptable to skip in a line.
And it is not acceptable to break security rules.
We Danes always wait for the green light, before passing a road.....
This will emerge into a big scandal IMO.
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That´s not true. I see that you come from CPH, then you know that people on bike alwyas turn right without waiting for the green light.
That people passes a road for red light.
That people skip in line in the bank, at NETTO, getting in the bus
Aso, aso, aso
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01-12-2015, 08:28 PM
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The thing that confuses me most is why didn't he stay over nearby anyway regardless of the bridge being closed?
I've looked online(and I may be getting completely the wrong place) but it seems it takes a good 3 hours to get to either Copenhagen (if he went back to Amalienborg) or Fredensborg. Given that he didn't leave until 1am surely it would have made more sense for him to stay over?
Even if he wanted to be back home ASAP he could have got up early and driven back? Marselisborg Palace is only an hour away so even that would may have made more sense to me.
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01-12-2015, 08:29 PM
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I agree with Lene Balleby on this one. Frederik is not in charge of his own security and while it most certainly was a wrong action, it wasn't his fault. That he then decides to tell reporters at Sport 2014 that he made it over before Storebæltsbroen closed... that is seriously unwise and a major gaffe from his side – he should have refrained from answering at all or avoided the question.
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Originally Posted by Fox
Frederik really wanted to salute the event in herning. That is admirable. I guess going home he thought it went well the first time...
But his action is very out of the Danish character.
It is not acceptable to skip in a line.
And it is not acceptable to break security rules.
We Danes always wait for the green light, before passing a road.....
This will emerge into a big scandal IMO.
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Haha, which part of Copenhagen do you come from? I've attended several schools in the very centre of Copenhagen for half of my life and Danes are horrible in the traffic – especially in Copenhagen. If I had a krone for every time I witness people run a late yellow-early red light (cars and pedestrians, both), talking on the phone while they're driving etc. on an average day walking from Nørreport to my school, I'd be a millionaire in no time. I completely agree with FasterB, this is not true at all.
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01-12-2015, 09:45 PM
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I would venture to say she was more worried for the danger he might have put himself him than headlines...when you have been monarch for decades these kind of minor controversies and criticisms are par for the course and are will be forgotten soon enough.As a mother and human watching Beatrix lost her son through a foolish action Margrethe could easily put herself in B's shoes.
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If he made it before the bridge closed the first time, I think that it is fine1 but he really should have spent the night where he was, not risking PET lives nor his own. And as you refer Beatrix lost her son thorough foolish action, hope for Fred not to do the same! I think some times this people with a lot of money and power they think nothing will happen to them that they are invencible1 but they forget they are human too! If it was Fred decision I am very disappointed of him! It was an immature and irresponsible action, now if it was Pet it is even worst! shouldn't them to protect the life of the future King?
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01-12-2015, 10:49 PM
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If this counts as a royal scandal this truly must be a shiny happy country. teenage prostitutes? Real estate fraud? Potential military coup? Illegimate kids? Small potatoes! We have prince who crossed a bridge without permission.
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Lol, I think you put things in perspective .
It was a mistake but I think a small one, the court has immediately apologized. Good.
I can't imagine frederik insisting on going through if PET thought it was a security risk.
The court has said frederik doesn't interfere with security matters.
I think the court has handled this well by immediately issuing a statement on Frederik's behalf.
Most online have made fun of this coverage.
I don't think frederik would put his life or the PET officers at risk.
I remember a few years ago frederik attended an event were supposedly a threat had been made against him. Frederik said that if that were true he wouldn't have gone as to not put others life in danger. (Sorry if I have the details wrong)
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01-12-2015, 11:59 PM
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Well, ha, for the first time I have heard about the crown prince of Denmark on the radio here in the us! A very quick bit about him crossing a closed bridge and late r apologizing for it, all emphasizing that he used his position to get an easier way. Never heard or seen thm mentioned except maybe a quick mention when the twins were born
Ps it was a light hearted bit of news
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01-13-2015, 06:07 AM
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By now he probably wishes he had never left the Palace at all that day.
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01-13-2015, 06:42 AM
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It wasn´t CP Frederik´s decision to cross the bridge. It was PET who took the desicion. Let´s get that straight.
So I can´t see why all keeps blaiming CP Frederik.
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01-13-2015, 07:26 AM
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Golly if that's the worst the danish royal family do I think your doing pretty good.
I'm sure Mary will give him a talking to and he won't do that again
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