Crown Prince Frederik, Current Events 2: October 2007 - September 2010

[Florencia]

Originally Posted by iceflower

Some more from yesterday, Crown Prince Frederik has opened the WTA
tournament in Farum.


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** lokalavisen.dk: Masser af kendisser i Farum **

** ekstrabladet.dk: Kronprinsen: Stolt af Caroline **

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[Muhler]

The CP-couples court has announced the Crown Prince Frederik will be promoted to full colonel in the army and airforce and commander in the navy on the 10. August 2010.

- When he become king, he will have the rank of full general and full admiral.

The Navy Operational Command, SOK, informs that M&F will take part in a service at Holmens Kirke, the naval church, this Sunday at 10.30.
Present will be Danish sailors as well as sailors from the navies of other countries.

http://forsvaret.dk/SOK/Nyt%20og%20Presse/...rinsparret.aspx

As DR1 usually send live from a service on Sundays, they may send from this one?

[iceflower]

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Gold for Denmark!

Crown Prince Frederik congratulates the Danish women's handball team for
winning the gold medal in the Singapore 2010 Youth Olympic Games August
25, 2010.



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[PrincessDianafan]

Thanks for the info LumutQueen. I just met Prince Fred. I will post pictures. I write Children's books so I was able to pass him two of my books for his children. Security was tight, but he walked over to me as he was leaving. Unfortunately, the picture of him I managed to take was a bit blur as my camera broke and I was using my moms. Stay tuned for pics.

Crown Prince Frederik arriving for 25th anniversary of Danish Seamen's Mission

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...P1010256_2.jpg

Here's the blurred close up shot. Would have been great if it was in focus.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/P1010260.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...010260_3_2.jpg

I have to thank God for granting me the opportunity to meet him. A Very nice royal. And of course to Lumut Queen.

[Lumutqueen]

Thank you for the pictures, your welcome for the info but I only new because the calender is posted in the thread each month.

[marfre]

Thanks for the photo, how lucky for you to have met the prince, and how nice to give him the books.

[lancchick]

Originally Posted by PrincessDianafan

Crown Prince Frederik at the Danish Seamen's mission yesterday.
photo taken by me. My camera malfunctioned!!

Cool, thanks for taking the time and posting.

[Katrianna]

Originally Posted by PrincessDianafan

Here's the blurred close up shot. Would have been great if it was in focus.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...n/P1010260.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...010260_3_2.jpg

I have to thank God for granting me the opportunity to meet him. A Very nice royal. And of course to Lumut Queen.

Thanks for sharing your experience and pictures.

[PrincessDianafan]

Thanks Katrianna,

I have to say that he is the nicest royal I've had the opportunity to meet, by far. Well, him and Princess Diana. Hope he, Mary and the children make an official visit to Singapore one day soon.

[nwinther]

Originally Posted by Muhler

- When he become king, he will have the rank of full general and full admiral.

Are you sure? The Prince Consort is full general etc. but that's just sugar on the pill, as he's not King.

Besides, it doesn't really matter, as the CP (then king) will be Commander in Chief, thus outranking anyone.

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by nwinther

Are you sure? The Prince Consort is full general etc. but that's just sugar on the pill, as he's not King.

Besides, it doesn't really matter, as the CP (then king) will be Commander in Chief, thus outranking anyone.

Henrik is general and admiral a la suite.

The reason is very simple: So that he is not outranked by other Danish military personell while wearing a uniform.
It's got nothing about sugaring anything it's a matter of protocol.

Frederik will become full general for the very same reason: so that he won't be outranked while wearing a uniform.

General is a rank, commander-in-chief is an office.

- When Frederik become king, they will be combined.
But a full general is not necessesarily the commander-in-chief. The present Defence-Chief (that's also an office) is a full general.

QMII has the advantage of being a woman. So she is never required to wear a uniform and she never pursued a military career like Frederik is.
Frederik and Henrik are in contrast expected to wear a uniform at certain events, so they have ranks.

[nwinther]

Originally Posted by Muhler

Henrik is general and admiral a la suite.

The reason is very simple: So that he is not outranked by other Danish military personell while wearing a uniform.
It's got nothing about sugaring anything it's a matter of protocol.

Frederik will become full general for the very same reason: so that he won't be outranked while wearing a uniform.

General is a rank, commander-in-chief is an office.

- When Frederik become king, they will be combined.
But a full general is not necessesarily the commander-in-chief. The present Defence-Chief (that's also an office) is a full general.

QMII has the advantage of being a woman. So she is never required to wear a uniform and she never pursued a military career like Frederik is.
Frederik and Henrik are in contrast expected to wear a uniform at certain events, so they have ranks.

Technically, Henrik is the first person this "protocol" is used on. It's limited how much one instance can represent protocol. Besides, protocol can also be a type of sugar on the pill.

Re: Commander-in-Chief, it's an office held by the monarch - in some republics it's held by the president. The person you call the "Defence Chief" fills the role as Chief-of-Staff. IRL, the Commander-in-Chief is the Defence minister - but formally it's the monarch. And while the current queen doesn't hold any higher military rank (formally or real), she's still Commander-in-Chief. So in theory (and practice) it doesn't matter what rank he holds - he's still C-i-C.

Also, one should note, that any rank above a certain level (usually Colonel) is not studied or practiced at (i.e. you don't have to go to a certain school or through a course like you do to rise in the lower ranks). It's simply awarded on merit or necessity (or, too often, your political connections).

[Muhler]

Originally Posted by nwinther

Technically, Henrik is the first person this "protocol" is used on. It's limited how much one instance can represent protocol. Besides, protocol can also be a type of sugar on the pill.

- Muhler: In Denmark, yes. - But not elsewhere, hence the honorable rank of a la suite. -

Re: Commander-in-Chief, it's an office held by the monarch - in some republics it's held by the president. The person you call the "Defence Chief" fills the role as Chief-of-Staff. IRL, the Commander-in-Chief is the Defence minister - but formally it's the monarch. And while the current queen doesn't hold any higher military rank (formally or real), she's still Commander-in-Chief. So in theory (and practice) it doesn't matter what rank he holds - he's still C-i-C.

- Muhler: Sorry, you are a bit unclear here. You mean the Defence Chief is Commander-in-Chief? No, he's the executive commander-in-chief. - Meaning that he will command the Danish military forces in practise, naturally subserviant to the Danish Parliament, represented by his immediate political master, the Minister of Defence.
The formal Commander-in-Chief is always the Monarch. -

Also, one should note, that any rank above a certain level (usually Colonel) is not studied or practiced at (i.e. you don't have to go to a certain school or through a course like you do to rise in the lower ranks). It's simply awarded on merit or necessity (or, too often, your political connections).

Yes, because a general is a staff officer. And the lowest staff officer rank, unless it has changed since my time, is major.
You study to become a staff officer.
(The promotions are unfortunately very much dependant on seniority, rather than merit. - You may have read about the complaints among younger officers that it can take ages to advance).

Let's break down the command struckture:

The Commander-in-Chief = the Monarch. A constitutional formal role.
The Parliament.
The Government.
The Defence Minister.
The Defence Chief = the executive/de facto commander of the armed forces.

When we talk about who outranks whom:

We have on top the Monarch, who is also the Commander-in-Chief.
The Prince Consort, who has the rank of general and admiral a la suite, thus giving him the right to wear a uniform - and - not being outranked by any other general present. (That would look a bit silly).
Then we have the Defence Chief, which is an office. The current Defence Chief happens to be full general (presumably to lend some weight among his foreign colleagues), but he could just as well be lieutenant general or vice admiral.

ADDED: I used bold to distinguish between mine and nwinther's post. A faster and more practical way to respond. Now, it's confusing. Anyway, will use numbers the next time.

[Marika86]

Article about the presence of Frederik in Singapore at Youth Olympic Games:
Billed-Bladet - Frederik heppede Danmark til guld

[PrincessDianafan]

Cropped photo of the one that I took. The photo in the BilledBladet article was taken by my photographer friend Ace Cheong.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1..._4_2_2_2-1.jpg

[Muhler]

Summary of article in Billed Bladet #35, 2010.
Frederik jublede og trøstede - Frederik cheered and comforted.
Written by Peter Juul.

While Mary was to the wedding in Greece, Frederik went to the Youth Olympics in Singapore in his capacity as member of the IOC.

Here he watched the finals between Russia and Denmark in female handball. And presented the gold medals to the victorious Danish team.
He also went over to greet the Australian team, who had been defeated by DK earlier with figures I shall refrain from mentioning here....
(They are pretty lethal the Danish handball-girls, right? ) Anyway, he posed with the Australian girls and chatted with them, so hopefully that was a little comfort.

Frederik also visited the Danisg Seaman-Church in Singapore, which celebrated it's 25th anniversary. Here he was surrounded by children, chatted and posed with them. One little girl, got a royal high-five.
He also signed autographs for some of the children. - Something the DRF never do, but my guess is that he simply couldn't refuse requests from children.

[Paty]

Crowen Prince Frederik attended this morning the World Championship in Olympic class windsurfing RS:X in Kerteminde.

Article:
Kronprinsen er i Kerteminde - fyens.dk - Kerteminde
Photos:
Kronprinsen er i Kerteminde - fyens.dk - Kerteminde

Video:
Fynske Medier

[Muhler]

I see you have been busy as always, Paty

The journalist, Peter Koch, covering Frederik's visit has done so with a good deal of humour in the three articles so far, and being a man the first thing he noticed was that Frederik arrived in a Mazarati

He goes on to describe how Frederik was recieved by every child it was possible to mobillize in the municipality. Each child being issued with a flag and lined up.

He also described (there's a pic http://www.fyens.dk/article/1676937:...or-kronprinsen ) how the municipal weedburner was decorated with flags for the occassion.

- Only then was Frederik allowed to proceed to where the World Championships takes place. Buuut, a kindergarten caught up with him and as children and Frederik go well together, he spend some time chatting with the children.

Originally Posted by Paty

Crowen Prince Frederik attended this morning the World Championship in Olympic class windsurfing RS:X in Kerteminde.

Article:
Kronprinsen er i Kerteminde - fyens.dk - Kerteminde
Photos:
Kronprinsen er i Kerteminde - fyens.dk - Kerteminde

Video:
Fynske Medier

[Marika86]

Another video:
TV 2 Nyhederne - Video

[iceflower]

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Crown Prince Frederik today attended the official inauguration of the new
Fishing School in Thyborøn. He also attended an emergency training in the
harbour.


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