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08-17-2012, 11:55 AM
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Countess Alexandra have been showing off her legs: Billed-Bladet - Grevinde Alexandra viste lårkort mode
She and Nikolai and Felix went to circus and as you may deduce from the picture summer has finally come to DK.
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08-23-2012, 12:04 PM
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More on the circus outing from BB.
Countess Alexandra was accompanied by her father-in-law, Jacob Jørgensen, and his grandson, Elton Mtiliga.
But Alexandra also brought along from her goddaughter, eleven year old Marie-Therese, who otherwise live in Vienna/Wien. Presumably she's a daughter of one of Alexandra's sisters?
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10-21-2012, 09:56 AM
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10-21-2012, 03:47 PM
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Great finding, interesting and nice shots! Thanks a lot for sharing, tlklhm!
It is possible to translate it via google as well and to get some quotes from the interview:
** translation link 1 ** translation link 2 **
""Not all fairy tales have to be happy, but it does not matter, life goes on!" That's it! 
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02-05-2013, 01:23 PM
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20,000 KR doesn't seem like a large amount of money.
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02-05-2013, 01:41 PM
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20,000 KR doesn't seem like a large amount of money.
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It's $3165.25 dollars.
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03-03-2013, 07:53 PM
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She was so popular when married to Joachim. Is she still popular in Denmark now that she and Joachim have remarried?
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03-04-2013, 04:46 AM
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She was so popular when married to Joachim. Is she still popular in Denmark now that she and Joachim have remarried?
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I suppose it depends on whom you ask ! Her popularity took a dive when it turned out that she most likely instigated the divorce by having something on the side with Martin back in 2003!
Next, her annual grant from the State (approx. 2 mill. kroner = $ 350.000 ) has been criticized to a great extend by the general public and that's somehow reflected on the recipient. However the amount is 'peanuts' if you ask me. She still has 13 patronages to look after, and maybe they are supposed to justify the grant to some extend!
She had fourteen patronages at the time of the divorce. It's now reduced to thirteen.
Alexandra still has her followers, and her public appearances are still being covered by the press to a degree. However the main focus is on Princess Marie, and Alexandra is relegated to a life in the shadowlands of royalty.
Her elder son Prince Nikolai is to be confirmed in May. It will be interesting to see how RF will deal with the interaction!
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03-04-2013, 06:35 AM
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I think it's a difficult question. She has pretty much gone out of the limelight she was in before (probably out of respect for Marie), but she's still very dedicated to the patronages she still holds.
I love Alexandra, she's a hard worker and she's so wonderful and nice. I don't hold a grudge to her because the marriage between her and Joachim broke. I personally don't think it was happy more than a couple of years after the wedding and Joachim hasn't been a saint either. I've heard some people being annoyed because of the grants but I don't think it's a problem either. I'd say that she's as popular she can get being the mother of the 7th and 8th in line to the throne.
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03-04-2013, 10:17 AM
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I suppose it depends on whom you ask ! Her popularity took a dive when it turned out that she most likely instigated the divorce by having something on the side with Martin back in 2003!
Next, her annual grant from the State (approx. 2 mill. kroner = $ 350.000 ) has been critized to a great extend by the general public and that's somehow reflected on the recipient. However the amount is 'peanuts' if you ask me. She still has 13 patronages to look after, and maybe they are supposed to justify the grant to some extend!
She had fourteen patronages at the time of the divorce. It's now reduced to thirteen.
Alexandra still has her followers, and her public appearances are still being covered by the press to a degree. However the main focus is on Princess Marie, and Alexandra is relegated to a life in the shadowlands of royalty.
Her elder son Prince Nikolai is to be confirmed in May. It will be interesting to see how RF will deal with the interaction!
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Why do you think the interaction will be an issue when P Nikolai is confirmed. The entire family has been together at childrens birthdays so why would this event be different?
I thought she lost her "grant" when she re-married? Was that not the case?
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03-04-2013, 10:34 AM
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Why do you think the interaction will be an issue when P Nikolai is confirmed. The entire family has been together at childrens birthdays so why would this event be different?
I thought she lost her "grant" when she re-married? Was that not the case?
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No, the grant or apanage if you will, is actually dedicated to the boys. They are after all genuine Princes to Denmark and it was considered that they should be ensured a living standard befitting of their status.
That was openly stated by a politician some years back.
And it would also be seen as somewhat low by the Parliament if the then number tree and four in line for the throne were to suffer for the divorce.
What will happen once Felix turn eighteen will be interesting to see.
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03-04-2013, 10:43 AM
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She didn't loose her grant but she has to pay taxes since she is remarried.
AFAIR, Muhler, it was said back in 2004/2005 that she receives the grant because she will continue her work with some of her patronages. I think Joachim has to pay alimony for his sons. And Alexandra (or her sons?) got the villa as an adequate place to live for 2 princes.
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I suppose that is very true. A friend of mine who visited Copenhagen last year asked someone about the crown princess and was told that she is not popular. Yet, all polls of the last years (I know of) had her on top as the most popular member of the RF, together with Queen Margrethe.
Since Alexandra is no longer a member of the RF she is not included in polls. So it's difficult to say. She is certainly no longer the media's darling. But every Dane I personally know still respects her, especially for her conduct during and since the divorce.
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03-04-2013, 01:24 PM
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AFAIR, Muhler, it was said back in 2004/2005 that she receives the grant because she will continue her work with some of her patronages. I think Joachim has to pay alimony for his sons. And Alexandra (or her sons?) got the villa as an adequate place to live for 2 princes.
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Ricarda, your memory is better than mine  ! Prince Joachim is paying alimony for his sons! I just found the the outline of the bill stating, that Alexandra's apanage should compensate her royal duties PLUS support an 'appropriate' life style. Some legal technicalities: The amount was called 'apanage' as long as she remained a princess, after marrying Martin Jørgensen it became a special grant, now subject to tax and V.A.T, as you pointed out!
The house in Copenhagen was 'on Joachim'; it was part of the pre-nup!
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Why do you think the interaction will be an issue when P Nikolai is confirmed. The entire family has been together at childrens birthdays so why would this event be different?
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I'm just curious, that's all! It will be the first time the two families team up in public view at a semi formal event, if I remember correctly! You cannot compare an informal birthday party with 'pap shots' of people coming and going with the confirmation at Fredensborg! This time they'll have to line up for the family photos!
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03-04-2013, 02:12 PM
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I'm just curious, that's all! It will be the first time the two families team up in public view at a semi formal event, if I remember correctly! You cannot compare an informal birthday party with 'pap shots' of people coming and going with the confirmation at Fredensborg! This time they'll have to line up for the family photos!
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The adults were all present together at one of the events to celebrate the Ruby Jubilee. And that was a fully formal event- tiaras included.
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03-04-2013, 06:16 PM
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Since Alexandra is no longer a member of the RF she is not included in polls. So it's difficult to say. She is certainly no longer the media's darling. But every Dane I personally know still respects her, especially for her conduct during and since the divorce.
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I for one have changed my opinion on her.
It seems it has been hard on her to give up her royal privileges - she is known for snobbish behaviour at restaurants, insisting on her parking her car right outside entrance doors, but with no driver she just leaves the car and blocks traffic etc.
This blog has an interesting account on Alexandra: http://tomorrowscrownedheads.blogspo...m-et-pjok.html
Translation: http://translate.google.com/translat...m-et-pjok.html
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03-04-2013, 06:57 PM
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The adults were all present together at one of the events to celebrate the Ruby Jubilee. And that was a fully formal event- tiaras included.
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Well, that was the night at the opera! Alexandra was there in the capacity as patron of the Radio Denmark girls choir - it was explicitly mentioned by royalty experts at the time - and not because she was a former member of the royal family. She wore her tiara because the invitation said 'tiaras may be worn'  !
You know I expect everyone to be on their best behaviour at Prince Nikolai's confirmation. However it has been suggested more than once, also by the more reputable media, that the relationship between Alexandra and HM has been strained. - Whatever it's like these days both ladies are smart enough not to take it out on the children, even though it came pretty close at the baptism of Prince Christian in 2005!
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03-04-2013, 07:35 PM
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Well, that was the night at the opera! Alexandra was there in the capacity as patron of the Radio Denmark girls choir - it was explicitly mentioned by royalty experts at the time - and not because she was a former member of the royal family. She wore her tiara because the invitation said 'tiaras may be worn' !
You know I expect everyone to be on their best behaviour at Prince Nikolai's confirmation. However it has been suggested more than once, also by the more reputable media, that the relationship between Alexandra and HM has been strained. - Whatever it's like these days both ladies are smart enough not to take it out on the children, even though it came pretty close at the baptism of Prince Christian in 2005!
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what happened in 2005? if you dont mind me asking.
I always thought the Queen had a good relationship with Alexandra.
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03-05-2013, 02:56 AM
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what happened in 2005? if you dont mind me asking. .
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Of course not : At the baptism of Prince Christian ( in 2006 and not 2005 as I first wrote), the divorced Alexandra was still a princess, though no longer a royal highness!
Alexandra arrived at the chapel with her sons. She handed them over to Prince Joachim, who was waiting in the porch. Then Joachim and sons proceeded to the top seats designated to the royal family while Alexandra was seated in the pews further down, together with other minor RF members. The procedure was reversed at the end of the service.
It didn't make things better that young Prince Felix was crying most of the time, he had a cold or something, if I remember correctly, and Joachim was busy trying to comfort him!
Now the Danes were watching this on TV in disbelief, and the RF received a lot of criticism for letting protocol prevail over common sense. I admit that protocol- wise it's a hard nut to crack but IMHO it could have been solved by seating the boys with their mother or even better: Alexandra could have opted for a diplomatic cold and excused herself!
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I always thought the Queen had a good relationship with Alexandra.
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They probably did until Alexandra rocked the royal boat !
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