Countess Alexandra & Martin Jørgensen, Current Events 1: March 2007 - October 2008

[kate14]

Originally Posted by ysbel

Other than that, I think she will be invited to some private family gatherings especially where her sons are prominent but we, the public, are not likely to see pictures of these private gatherings.

IMO, I hope this will be the Only time I see her, really.

[Exlibrarian]

I like her very much and I think a nice girl like her deserves a loving husband. I wish her and her husband a long and happy life together.

[kaffir]

This might have been mentioned before-is she still getting money from the royal budget (from the govt, not what J or QM might give her for child support or as a gift)? Is it because she is still performing duties for the govt or as mother of two royal family members?

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by kaffir

This might have been mentioned before-is she still getting money from the royal budget (from the govt, not what J or QM might give her for child support or as a gift)? Is it because she is still performing duties for the govt or as mother of two royal family members?

Yes, around € 300.000,-- ($ 390,000.--) per year, very generously provided by the Danish taxpayers for the former wife of a younger son of their head of state. For the rest of her life.

I have no idea what was the logic thought behind this, but I bet there will be a logic thought somewhere.

[norwegianne]

Originally Posted by Henri M.

Yes, around € 300.000,-- ($ 390,000.--) per year, very generously provided by the Danish taxpayers for the former wife of a younger son of their head of state. For the rest of her life.

I have no idea what was the logic thought behind this, but I bet there will be a logic thought somewhere.

Count Ingolf of Rosenborg receives about the same amount as Alexandra. Granted their situations are a bit different, but neither of them have/will have much public duties, although they both have their patronages.

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by norwegianne

Count Ingolf of Rosenborg receives about the same amount as Alexandra. Granted their situations are a bit different, but neither of them have/will have much public duties, although they both have their patronages.

In my Dutch ears it sounds very generous indeed. In the Netherlands only The Queen, The Prince of Orange and Princess Máxima receive an annua; apanage.


The idea that the State of the Netherlands would finance an allowance to a former spouse of Prince Constantijn really is alien.



Happy Alexandra!

[Jo of Palatine]

I start to wonder if the newspaper articles about Alexandra's value in terms of employment and income we recently discussed here came out of the thin air or if she already is on looking for a position to continue her former professional career? Just a thought...

[pinklady1991]

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

I start to wonder if the newspaper articles about Alexandra's value in terms of employment and income we recently discussed here came out of the thin air or if she already is on looking for a position to continue her former professional career? Just a thought...

I was thinking that perhaps The Queen felt it would be better to keep Alexandra in the good graces of the family rather than shut her out and form a competing support base. I think her allowance is her "alimony" & the keeping of certain patronages maintains stability for the charity -- they didn't lose an "official" royal patron.

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by pinklady1991

I was thinking that perhaps The Queen felt it would be better to keep Alexandra in the good graces of the family rather than shut her out and form a competing support base. I think her allowance is her "alimony" & the keeping of certain patronages maintains stability for the charity -- they didn't lose an "official" royal patron.

Excuse me: it is not the Queen who decided or arranged this but the State of Denmark.
Queen Margrethe will not miss any sou. It is the Danish taxpayers who have to fund these lavish arrangements.
The 'good graces' of the family may be lovely. It is not the family to bleed for this anyway.

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Henri M.

Excuse me: it is not the Queen who decided or arranged this but the State of Denmark.
Queen Margrethe will not miss any sou. It is the Danish taxpayers who have to fund these lavish arrangements.
The 'good graces' of the family may be lovely. It is not the family to bleed for this anyway.

Well, that's monarchy for you... Compared to the amounts of ex-presidents or their respective widows the Federal republic of Germany has acquired nad has to pay for the upkeep - this is nothing!

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

Well, that's monarchy for you... Compared to the amounts of ex-presidents or their respective widows the Federal republic of Germany has acquired nad has to pay for the upkeep - this is nothing!

That is not the point, you more or less gave the impression that Queen Margrethe, in all her grace and favour, made a wise decision, etc.

Queen Margrethe in fact has nothing to do with all this. It was an arrangement by the State of Denmark.

Posters are here and there sticking feathers in Queen Margrethe's royal bum, while they should stick it in the bum of the Danish taxpayer.

[Azur]

For some reason, I am a bit sad. That means we will see less Alex in the future. I wish both of them the very best in the new life.

I am still your fan countess Alex!!

[Ayesha]

Hi - I haven't visited the Royal Forums in ages and saw this thread just now - I had no idea Alexandra was getting married again! I know none of the details/info. Apparently the groom is younger than Alexandra - how many years younger is he? What does he do?

Sorry, I'm sure this is all old news for you all, but could someone please update me with all this info? Thanks!

[angiep]

Princess or not, Alexandra is a wonderful role model and shining example of how to be dignified in the public eye and divorcing with grace.
I will miss seeing her and I wish her and her husband much happiness.

[rominet09]

Does anybody know where they are gone on honeymoon ?
I really hope that, due to her popularity, we will still get plenty of pix of her and her husband. I think they are very good looking, both of them

[bbb]

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

Well, that's monarchy for you... Compared to the amounts of ex-presidents or their respective widows the Federal republic of Germany has acquired nad has to pay for the upkeep - this is nothing!

same applies in US, billions and billions for our senators and congressmen also FOR A LIFETIME. don't get me started
i have no idea about denmark money etc. and yea to me $300,000+ a year is alot but it would only buy a middle-class home where i live. so its seems a reasonable amount but it should come out of her exhusbands pocket imo. i wouldn't think it would keep her in anyway the lifestyle she just left.

thanks for all the work on links and photos. i didn't like the white eyeshadow, horrible effect outside, aged her. flowers were beautiful, hair beehive updo
my mother would have "pitched a fit" (southern slang thang) if i'd tried to wear a long dress and veil at my second wedding, and my husband hadn't been married before so that point is valid. it's a new world and it's her wedding so i'll just go with she looked lovely if not cold. and martin did need a shave (didn't that stubble thing go out in the 80's?) i really wish them the best of happiness.

[Henri M.]

The difference with US Congressmen is that these are elected persons who represent their constituency in an Office of State.

Alexandra is nothing. She does not fulfill any office. She is just a former wife to a guy who happens to be the brother of the future head of state. In 45 years time, if Alexandra is still alive, then the Danish taxpayer will still pay for the Mrs Jorgensen who happens to be the mum of 52 years old Prince Nikolai and 48 years old Prince Felix, nephews to King Frederik XII or cousins to King Christian XI.

And if a former in-law like the mother of Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix receives an allowance, how can the Danish taxpayer then refuse to pay an allowance to born Princes as Nikolai and Felix? Where is the end?

Really, I'm a monarchist, but this Danish arrangement is too ridiculous for words. I wish Alexandra all the best. I wish her a fantastic alimentation, a beautiful house, etc. But it is Prince Joachim who should pay for it! He has the lusts of marriage. Let him bear the lasts of the divorce! And not the Danish taxpayer.

Anyway, I'm no Dane. Apparently the folks in there do agree, according polls the 47% is against and 53% is pro, which shows how divided the Danes think about this arrangement.

[Heike]

Originally Posted by Henri M.

The difference with US Congressmen is that these are elected persons who represent their constituency in an Office of State.

Alexandra is nothing. She does not fulfill any office. She is just a former wife to a guy who happens to be the brother of the future head of state. In 45 years time, if Alexandra is still alive, then the Danish taxpayer will still pay for the Mrs Jorgensen who happens to be the mum of 52 years old Prince Nikolai and 48 years old Prince Felix, nephews to King Frederik XII or cousins to King Christian XI.

And if a former in-law like the mother of Prince Nikolai and Prince Felix receives an allowance, how can the Danish taxpayer then refuse to pay an allowance to born Princes as Nikolai and Felix? Where is the end?

Really, I'm a monarchist, but this Danish arrangement is too ridiculous for words. I wish Alexandra all the best. I wish her a fantastic alimentation, a beautiful house, etc. But it is Prince Joachim who should pay for it! He has the lusts of marriage. Let him bear the lasts of the divorce! And not the Danish taxpayer.

Anyway, I'm no Dane. Apparently the folks in there do agree, according polls the 47% is against and 53% is pro, which shows how divided the Danes think about this arrangement.

To go back to US-presidents. Would the Americans pay an annual allowance to a former spouse of Chelsea Clinton?

Just let the Danes do whatever they like.
Maybe it´s hard for you to understand as a Dutch, but don´t forget that each country is just different and each functions in its own way.

[MissSaga]

Denmark is a very well-functioning and developed country, that has one of the best health, school and social systems in Europe, maybe even in the World, namely because the taxes are so high. There might be more to do in other countries, with the taxes, than there is in Denmark, that's why Denmark can afford paying its royal house, and a person who has been a great ambassador for Denmark through the last 12 years, on such a high level(payement) ?

[Henri M.]

Originally Posted by MissSaga

that's why Denmark can afford paying its royal house, and a person who has been a great ambassador for Denmark through the last 12 years, on such a high level(payement) ?

The Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Luxembourg do 'enjoy' gigantic taxes as well for their extended welfare state system. These states are very comparable. It is not about 'can we afford it?'. The Netherlands have almost 4x the number of inhabitants of Denmark. Phew.... we can afford 50 Alexandra's if we need to... It is about the principle: why does the taxpayer need to pay for an ex-spouse of a guy who happens to be the brother of the future head of state?

And Alexandra was no ambassador for Denmark.
Denmark has an excellent working Corps Diplomatique with professionals, in embassies and consulates all over the world. They are the ambassadors of Denmark. Alexandra was just that lady the second son of the head of state felt in love with. That is all.