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Old 01-11-2015, 11:03 AM
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I was raised in catholic faith but I was really surprised that they christened the baby so fast. In my country, the christening takes place usually three, four months after the birth.
I obsereved the same in Spanish and Belgian Royal Families, so I was really confused about that fact
Yes, there seem to be a lot of cultural differencies even though the religion is the same, my story was rhe way it was in the catholic part of the netherlands in the past.

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https://translate.google.nl/translat.../Kinderdoopsel
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:37 AM
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It was fascinating to read about the different Catholic christening traditions in different countries. I'm an Anglican so I'm used to seeing babies christened rather late. I was christened at five months and my mother was christened at eighteen months. There is a little girl at my church who was christened when she was about two years old. I do have some Catholic family members but they're not that religious and I can't recall if their children were christened or not.

What I also found unusual was how little Archduchess Katarina "only" had two middle names (I'm not sure if Marie-Christine counts as one name or two separate names, since it's double barreled) whereas I've noticed that it's traditional for members of the House of Habsburg to have lots of middle names. Archduke Christoph has five middle names: Christoph Henri Alexander Maria Marcus d'Aviano. It was also interesting that they didn't include "d'Aviano" within Archduchess Katarina's middle names as IIRC, all of Archduke Christoph's siblings have "d'Aviano" somewhere in their name combinations.
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Old 01-11-2015, 11:52 AM
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My observation about Catholic couples is that the more observant they are, the quicker they tend to baptize their children after birth.

Adelaide and Christoph are a very devout couple. Claire and Felix of Luxembourg-also said to be a religious Catholic couple, baptized their little Amalia in 4 weeks.

An immediate, low-key baptism after birth is the rule rather than the exception in the Catholic Benelux Royal families.


My personal belief is that parents are responsible for the souls of their children. If these innocents pass away without the most important of all the Sacraments they cannot be held accountable for it. They are entrusted to God's mercy, as another poster stated.
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Old 01-11-2015, 02:25 PM
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I think they only baptised her so fast because the whole family had gathered for the Christmas holidays anyway (Marie-Christine might even have travelled from Argentina!) and therefore they could do it in one go. And besides: December 27th is Adelaides and Christophers second wedding anniversary. So they might have thought it would be nice to to connect those dates.
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:32 PM
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Their wedding anniversary was on 29 December, not on 27 December; but besides this, it makes sense to have the Christening celebrated in a short time taking advantage of having the family already gathered for Christmas (granted that this actually was the case).

Btw, I believe that Leopold and Marie Christine no longer live in Argentina, but have moved back to Belgium some time ago, IIRC.
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:56 PM
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Yes, this thing with the residence/work in Argentina nobody knows exactly. Besides: Wasn´t the 27th their civil wedding date?
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Old 01-11-2015, 05:58 PM
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It was also interesting that they didn't include "d'Aviano" within Archduchess Katarina's middle names as IIRC, all of Archduke Christoph's siblings have "d'Aviano" somewhere in their name combinations.
Only the boys have d'Aviano among their names in honour of Marco d'Aviano, the Capuchin friar and advisor to Holy Roman Emperor Leopold I. It seems to be a tradition for the Habsburgs to include it in the names of their sons.
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Old 01-13-2015, 07:00 PM
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Besides: Wasn´t the 27th their civil wedding date?
No, it was on 28 December, the day before the religious wedding.
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Yes, this thing with the residence/work in Argentina nobody knows exactly. Besides: Wasn´t the 27th their civil wedding date?
Marie Christine and her husband Rodolphe moved back to Europe. They lived three years here in Argentina, where he managed a family agribusiness (he's responsible for family properties in different countries). He also became a Partner at an Investment Company based in Buenos Aires (where I live), and apparently he still follows his activities with this Company from Europe.
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Old 01-15-2015, 03:19 PM
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Thank you for the info Mariana Sofia. And welcome to Royal Forums, I´m member since October 2002!!
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Hello! Here are some pictures of the little Archduchesses Maria-Stella & Katarina.

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Archduchess Adélaïde & Archduchess Katarina

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Aliénor Drapé-Frisch (Adélaïde's sister) with Archduchess Katarina

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Archduchess Kathleen & Archduchess Maria-Stella


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It was casually reported on another site that Archduchess Kathleen and Archduke Imre are expecting their second child. Can anyone confirm this information?
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On one site a poster said it was announced on a social media page, but I do not know if that is reliable.
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Old 10-22-2015, 04:11 PM
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On one site a poster said it was announced on a social media page, but I do not know if that is reliable.
That's what I'm talking about. I'm a member of that site and asked how they knew about it.

Thought I'd try to see if I could get it confirmed.
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Old 10-22-2015, 05:31 PM
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Hmmm I suppose she could of posted it but I'd want to see proof.


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Old 10-22-2015, 09:45 PM
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That's what I'm talking about. I'm a member of that site and asked how they knew about it.

Thought I'd try to see if I could get it confirmed.
Okay unless someone at that site would link her social media page and I don't think that the moderator likes that, we might not get a confirmation. I've noticed that family doesn't announce the pregnancies, only the births.
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:30 PM
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It was casually reported on another site that Archduchess Kathleen and Archduke Imre are expecting their second child. Can anyone confirm this information?
I read the same...with a Feb.2016 due date. I guess only time will tell
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Old 10-26-2015, 12:58 PM
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If it's true, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:49 PM
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ArchDuke Imre recently spoke to the website Alleteia about his ancestors Emperor Charles and Empress Zita. In the last paragraph, there is a confirmation he and his wife Kathleen are indeed expecting their second child.

Quand le plus grand souverain d’Europe s’agenouillait devant le seul vrai Roi | Aleteia.org – Français
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Old 10-28-2015, 06:14 PM
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Thank you for sharing the link Elecktra. Good luck to the little family because life changes with baby number two!
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