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12-28-2005, 06:48 PM
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12-29-2005, 01:46 PM
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In the Spanish and former Portuguese monarchies, Infante (masc.) or Infanta (fem.) is the title given to a son or daughter of the reigning monarch who is not the heir-apparent to the throne. Other, more distantly related, members of the Spanish and Portuguese royal families are also granted the title.
The name derives from the same root as " infant," but this means simply "child" in Romance languages, and in this case indicates that the Infante or Infanta is the child of the monarch.
As per Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante
El título de Infante lo introdujo la reina Leonor de Inglaterra (casada con Fernando II de León, siglo XII), tal y como se usaba en este país. Sus hijos, Sancho y Fernando fueron los primeros hijos de reyes en ostentar dicho título.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infante
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12-31-2005, 08:44 AM
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Yes, she was. All the member of the GRF are Princes of Greece and Denmark because they are descendants of King George I of Greece who was born a prince of denmark. You can check on Wikipedia all the Greek royals and you can see that they are princes of Greece and Denmark.
If that were true all royals would be Princes of who know how many countries. Queen Sofia's mother was Princess of Hanover but Sofia was not.
You are wrong.
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are you sure that I am wrong, because I am positive that I read it somewhere
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01-11-2006, 12:24 PM
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what do you think??
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01-30-2006, 07:18 AM
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another question.. Is Filipe also an Infante of Spain, or is that included in his title of Prince of Asturias, and if he is an Infante, does that mean that Letizia is an Infanta of Spain??
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01-30-2006, 07:28 AM
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another question.. Is Filipe also an Infante of Spain, or is that included in his title of Prince of Asturias, and if he is an Infante, does that mean that Letizia is an Infanta of Spain??
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I think that Prince Felipe has the title Prince of Asturias since he swore the Constitution in 1985. Before that, he was Infante of Spain like his sisters. I'm not sure about this but i read somewhere and it was something like this!
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01-30-2006, 10:29 AM
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I think that Prince Felipe has the title Prince of Asturias since he swore the Constitution in 1985. Before that, he was Infante of Spain like his sisters. I'm not sure about this but i read somewhere and it was something like this! 
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The Prince felipe, is Prince of Asturias from the reestablishment of the Monarchy, and the approval of the Constitution. Previously he did not have any title, since the Spanish Monarchy was in the exile, his grandfather Don Juan was the one who had the rights of the throne and his parents were Princes of Spain, a title chosen by Franco, not Princes of Asturias. The Constitution of 1978 granted the Infantas' titles legally.
http://www.fundacionprincipedeasturi...do/index5.html
In recent times, the Royal Decree of 21 January 1977 restored the rank of Prince of Asturias; and on 1 November of the same year, Felipe de Borbón, the thirty-fifth Prince of Asturias, made his first visit to Asturias.
Felipe de Borbón received an artistic parchment in which Asturias recognised him as their Prince, a Cross of Victory made of gold and studded with jewels, and a symbolic donation of five hundred pesetas in a leather bag, as a substitute for the traditional thousand gold coins, from the hands of the President of the County Council, Luis Sáenz de Santamaría in Covadonga.
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02-01-2006, 10:51 AM
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I'm confused, does that mean that Filip is still an Infante?? (outside the title, Prince of Asturias)
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02-01-2006, 10:57 AM
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I'm confused, does that mean that Filip is still an Infante?? (outside the title, Prince of Asturias)
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He was born an Infante, but when he swore the constitution he became the Prince of Asturias
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02-01-2006, 11:00 AM
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I'm confused, does that mean that Filip is still an Infante?? (outside the title, Prince of Asturias)
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http://www.casareal.es/ingles/laCorona/lacorona.html
Article 2
The heir to the Crown shall, as from his or her birth or as from the moment the fact giving rise to such entitlement arises, possess the Dignity of The Prince or The Princess of the Asturias, as well as the remaining titles traditionally attached to the Successor to the Crown and be entitled to the honours pertaining to him or her by virtue thereof. He or she shall be addressed as Your Royal Highness. The same Dignity and form of address shall correspond to his or her spouse, with the honours deriving therefrom, pursuant to the laws of the Realm.
Article 3
The King's sons and daughters not possessing the Dignity of Prince or Princess of the Asturias, as well as the children of the latter Prince or Princess, shall be Infantes or Infantas of Spain, respectively, and shall be addressed as Your Royal Highness. Their spouses, whilst they continue being so or stay a widower or widow, shall be entitled to the form of address and honours The King, as a gracious decision, may grant them, pursuant to the powers vested upon Him by paragraph f) of Article 62 of the Constitution.
http://www.casareal.es/ingles/sar_principe/index.html
Heir to the Crown since the proclamation of his father as King on 22 November 1975, on 1 November 1977 he received the title of Prince of Asturias together with the titles of Prince of Girona and Prince of Viana, These are held by the firstborn of the Kingdoms of Castile, Aragon and Navarre which came together in the 16th century to form the Spanish monarchy. He also holds the titles of Duke of Montblanc, Count of Cervera and Lord of Balaguer.
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02-01-2006, 04:17 PM
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02-01-2006, 06:32 PM
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I have a ? for you Lula. In article 3 that you quoted above does this mean that the King's (Juan Carlos) daughters, Elena and Cristina's children have the right to the dignity of Infante or Infanta of Spain? I realize that the King created both of his sons in law dukes but I thought that the children of the dukes and the Infantas take any such titles from the paternal line and not the maternal line? I am confused. That is the way I read Section 3
Thank you for enlightening me.
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02-01-2006, 06:38 PM
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No, linda. Only the children of the King are Infantes. The Infantas' children held no titles.
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02-02-2006, 03:24 AM
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The phrase from Article 3 "...as well as the children of the latter Prince or Princess" refers to the Prince (or Princess) of the Asturias.
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02-03-2006, 01:12 AM
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Why is she called Infanta? Is that her name or a title? Thanks.
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02-03-2006, 01:18 AM
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Question:
Why is she called Infanta? Is that her name or a title? Thanks.
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It's her title, it is given to all those sovereign (or heir) children that are not going to inherit the throne, the heir is called Prince/ss of Asturias
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02-03-2006, 04:59 AM
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Thanks, but why can't she inherit the throne? And what does "Infanta" means? Are there male versions or it's just for females?
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02-03-2006, 08:07 AM
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Thanks, but why can't she inherit the throne? And what does "Infanta" means? Are there male versions or it's just for females?
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Infanta means "child" of Spain, it comes with the french origin of the Borbon house (enfant). It's very possible that she won't inherit the throne because she's currently sixth in the succesion line, behind her brother, his daugther, her sister Elena and her children because in Spain the succesion gives precedence to the male descendant (Felipe is the youngest of his siblings).
If there is another male after the heir, he's called an Infante of Spain (the male term for Infanta) just like Felipe did before he was invested as Prince of Asturias.
I hope that you find my information useful, but please remember that this thread is for pictures of Cristina in past times not to ask questions
Thanks in advance
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02-03-2006, 09:30 AM
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Thanks, that was helpful. I'm sorry I asked the question here. It's just that, if I make a new thread, it'll get edited and get put in as a regular post in another thread, so I figured since this is a thread about her, I would ask.
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02-03-2006, 10:05 AM
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Thanks, that was helpful. I'm sorry I asked the question here. It's just that, if I make a new thread, it'll get edited and get put in as a regular post in another thread, so I figured since this is a thread about her, I would ask.
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Hi CrownPrinceLorenzo,
There's a whole thread about the meaning of Infante/Infanta
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ante-3169.html
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