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Each crown has some honour titles that are attributed to its crown prince. E.g.: in Castille it was the Príncipe de Asturias, in Aragon it was the Príncipe de Gerona and in Navarre it was the Príncipe de Viana.
So those are the honour titles Felipe inherited from the heirs of Castille, Aragon and Navarre, whose union, in the XVI century, led to the Spanish Monarchy.
Here you have the explanation for the titles of Príncipe de Viana and Príncipe de Gerona:
Príncipe de Viana
Cuentan las crónicas que en el verano de 1440 Carlos de Evreux, primer Príncipe de Viana, visitó la localidad navarra que daba nombre a su título, como heredero del reino de Navarra, concedido dieciocho años antes por su abuelo el rey Carlos III el Noble.
En los 564 años transcurridos desde aquella fecha, la ciudad de Viana, tradicional baluarte defensivo frente a Castilla y última escala navarra del Camino de Santiago, ha pasado por múltiples avatares históricos, su fisonomía ha experimentado transformaciones radicales y el título al que presta nombre ha perdido los territorios y las rentas que tenía asignados en su origen, aunque mantiene su carácter simbólico.
Tras la conquista del reino de Navarra por Fernando el Católico, a principios del siglo XVI, y como consecuencia de la unión dinástica de los territorios españoles en las personas de los Reyes Católicos, el título de Príncipe de Viana –como el de Asturias y otros varios- quedó vinculado al heredero de la Corona de España, que desde entonces –y tras diversas vicisitudes históricas- lo ostenta hasta nuestros días.
Por ello, Felipe de Borbón, Príncipe de Asturias (como sucesor del heredero de la Corona de Castilla), es además Príncipe de Viana (sucesor del heredero del reino de Navarra).
Príncipe de Gerona
Estando el rey don Fernando en el throno, llegóse a él su hijo mayor, el infante don Alfonso (que ya dos años antes había sido jurado por sucesor en los reinos) e vistióle el rei un manto mui rico, e púsole un chapeo en la cabeça, e una vara de oro en la mano e dióle paz en el rostro e título de príncipe de Girona, como antes se llamaba duque porque ya en el vecino reyno de Castilla se avía dado al sucesor el de principe de Asturias.
Con estas palabras nos refiere el cronista de la época el inicio de la ceremonia de investidura del primer príncipe de Gerona (el futuro Alfonso V de Aragón) por parte de su padre ( Fernando I de Antequera), en Zaragoza en febrero de 1414, en presencia de los prohombres aragoneses, catalanes, mallorquines y valencianos, amén de representantes de los restantes territorios de la Corona de Aragón (sicilianos, sardos, etc.). Se instituía así el Principado de Gerona, elevando a tal condición el antiguo ducado del mismo nombre. Dos años después, hallándose en la ciudad de Gerona, Fernando I libró el correspondiente diploma a favor de su primogénito.
El ducado de Gerona había sido creado en 1351 por Pedro IV el Ceremonioso que lo había vinculado a los herederos de la corona aragonesa en la persona de su hijo el futuro Juan I, a semejanza de los usos del reino de Francia (donde el primogénito ostentaba el título de duque de Normandía). Se mantuvo vigente hasta 1412, fecha en la que, en el Compromiso de Caspe, fue elegido rey de la Corona de Aragón, Fernando I de Trastamara (o de Antequera), quien dos años después, como se ha dicho anteriormente, lo convirtió en principado.
http://www.dhistoria.com/blog/archivos/cat_espana.html
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From Wikipedia
The title of Prince of Girona comes from the Crown of Aragon, more precisely when in the year 1351, the king Pere IV of Aragon nominated its successor and conceded him the title of Duke of Girona, which embraced territories of the counties of Girona, Besalú, Empúries and Osona.
On 19 February 1416, the king Ferdinand I of Aragon considered the title of duke was insufficient, and exalted it erecting the Principality of Girona.
Since 21 April 1990, this title corresponds to Felipe, Prince of Asturias, therefore the first Bourbon to hold the title of Prince of Girona, on assuming it, without any official ceremony of investiture. Formerly no other Bourbon had ever held, nor even used this title.
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Just as an addition, the Spanish Royal Website addresses him as El Principe de Asturias, Don Felipe de Bourbon y Grecia.
I realize that he gets the Grecia from his mother but does this mean that he is also considered a Prince of Greece?
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Originally Posted by Ennyllorac
I realize that he gets the Grecia from his mother but does this mean that he is also considered a Prince of Greece?
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Yes, I believe so, since Queen Sofía is a Princess of Greece, he and his sisters are therefore considered princes of Greece, just like Alexia, Pavlos, Nikolaos, Theodora and Phillipos are princes of Denmark, title inherited from their mother, Queen Anne-Marie of the Hellenes that is, as well, Princess of Denmark.
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Just as an addition, the Spanish Royal Website addresses him as El Principe de Asturias, Don Felipe de Bourbon y Grecia.
I realize that he gets the Grecia from his mother but does this mean that he is also considered a Prince of Greece?
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yes, he is "felipe de borbon y grecia". not sure if he is prince of greece but he has greece as part of his surname.
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05-07-2005, 11:07 AM
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Well they apparently use the title "Prince of Greece" for Felipe, but these days that title is only used by sort of courtesy - just as for the Greeks/Danes, and the Greek Royal Family. There is no Royal House of Greece these days, unfortunately...
Nice to hear this about the Girona title, didn't know that! Such a lovely city too! :)
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06-24-2005, 01:01 PM
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infante?
Hi im new, but i was under the impression that "Infante/a" was kind of equivalent to the Grand Dukes and Duchess of Russia like the children of the KING/RULER are infante and infantas (grand duchess), whereas a "prince or princess" are a step below.
anyways im not sure just a question i had thanks guys!
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06-24-2005, 05:45 PM
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Here's my impression:
Infante/a = Prince/Princess = Grand Duke/Duchess = Lala/Prince
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06-24-2005, 06:07 PM
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it's only the title for the children of the king until the heir to the throne receives the title of prince of asturias. the future newborn of felipe and letizia will be "infante/a" before he or she receives the title of prince or princess of asturias.
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His titles are: Príncipe de Asturias, Príncipe de Girona y Príncipe de Viana, Duque de Montblanc, Conde de Cervera y Señor de Balaguer.
She acquired them all the moment they said "I do.'
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Does anyone know what the titles are in english??? or better in dutch???
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08-16-2005, 07:56 AM
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Does anyone know what the titles are in english??? or better in dutch???
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Simple: Prince of Asturias, Prince of Girona, Prince of Viana, Duke of Montblanc, Count of Cervera and Lord of Balaguer.
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owww, of course.. why didn't I think of that. thank you
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Besides her title as Princess of Asturias, upon marrying Crown Prince Felipe, she also inherited the titles of Princesa de Gerona (Princess of Gerona), Princesa de Viana (Princess of Viana), Duquesa de Montblanc (Duchess of Montblanc), Condesa de Cervera (Countess of Cervera) and Señora de Balaguer (First Lady of Balaguer).
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08-31-2005, 03:35 PM
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Infante/Infanta (in Portugal and Spain) = Grand Duke/Grand Duchess (in Russia) = Archduke/Archduchess (in Austria) = Duke/Duchess (in Württemberg) = Prince/Princess (in other Royal Families).
Also in Portugal, the Crown Prince/Crown Princess as heir/heiress to the throne beared the title "Duke/Duchess de Bragança" and the other members of the Royal Family beared the title "Infante/Infanta of Portugal".
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That's quite an impressive list of titles held by His Majesty. It's funny that it does not include the title of King of Spain though.
By the way, does anyone know when the Spanish Kings were stopped being referred to as "His Catholic Majesty"?
I have read some old law manuscripts and whenever they talk about the Spanish King the refer to him as His Catholic Majesty.
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He still is. Majestad Católica = Catholic Majesty It does not say King of Spain but it mentions all the kingdoms that united to make up Spain. And also of other places that were ruled by his ancestors. Here is an article on His Majesty. It may help you understand better. His titles are listed at the end.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ju...los_I_of_Spain
There is an argument here as to what His Majesty's official title is. Is it Juan Carlos, or Juan Carlos I. Since in the Spanish Constitution it is stated as Juan Carlos I, I would assume that is his official title.
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Yes, he's Juan Carlos I.
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10-20-2005, 11:32 PM
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