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Old 09-08-2018, 11:06 AM
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Thanks! I wonder who the wiki definition was written by, as the article does not cite a source to support its definition, which has inconsistencies (for example, the claim that British peerages are substantive titles but substantive titles confers no political or civic prerogatives is contradictory, as in actuality British peerages do confer political prerogatives).
British hereditary peerages do only confer political prerogatives to a very limited group of hereditary peers in the House of Lords and even that remnant (as well the whole unelected House of Lords) is under review as more and more the need for a reform is felt. When the House of Lords is reformed, the virtually last political prerogative of a very small group will become history. Then little will differ a British aristocrat from a Spanish or a Danish aristocrat or so. Just a title and maybe an ancestral estate. That is it.
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Old 09-08-2018, 11:36 AM
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Princess Leonor has received a badge from the Principality of Asturias, made in white gold, rose gold, brilliants, sapphires and Asturian gold

https://twitter.com/LetiziadePaR/sta...02752634937346
https://www.revistavanityfair.es/rea...s-oviedo/33376

Both sisters have also received a necklace with a Visigothic rosette with an Asturian motif and an Asturian gold and sapphire chain

https://twitter.com/LetiziadePaR/sta...15522679939072

They have also received a medal of the Virgin of Covadonga

http://www.casareal.es/sitios/Listas...0180908_08.jpg
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/S...rdzGckVXWx.jpg

Visit to the "Picos de Europa" National Park

https://mas.lne.es/en-directo/fotos/...-loslagosw.jpg
https://mas.lne.es/en-directo/fotos/...467-posado.jpg
https://mas.lne.es/en-directo/fotos/...22439-palo.jpg

https://josepgegundez.photoshelter.c...00068aKG.mLQJ0

https://www.lne.es/multimedia/fotos/...os-europa.html

https://www.elcomercio.es/princesa-a...193651-ga.html

https://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_es...e-covadonga/1/

The delay was 25 minutes. Covadonga is a place where the weather can be complicated, and there was fog that prevented the helicopters from landing there directly and they had to land in the second place planned, further away. That place was an esplanade in a nursing home, and finally the Royal Family was there longer than expected, greeting the elders and signing in the honor book.

https://fotos02.lne.es/2018/09/09/69...errizaje-1.jpg
https://fotos00.lne.es/2018/09/09/69...errizaje-2.jpg
https://www.elcomercio.es/princesa-a...125812-nt.html

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Old 09-08-2018, 11:55 AM
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British hereditary peerages do only confer political prerogatives to a very limited group of hereditary peers in the House of Lords and even that remnant (as well the whole unelected House of Lords) is under review as more and more the need for a reform is felt. When the House of Lords is reformed, the virtually last political prerogative of a very small group will become history. Then little will differ a British aristocrat from a Spanish or a Danish aristocrat or so. Just a title and maybe an ancestral estate. That is it.
I would say that the current political prerogative of British hereditary peers is the right to stand for election to one of 90 seats in the House of Lords which are reserved for candidates who hold hereditary peerages.

As for the Asturias title, I think (but I am not certain) that it once entitled the holder to a higher appanage than an Infanta/Infante but that this is no longer the case.
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Old 09-08-2018, 02:31 PM
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Thank you lula for filling us in on the visit to Asturias today - I think the Spanish threads would be pretty quiet if it weren't for you!
It was nice to see Leonor visiting "her" province with her family. Out of the two sisters though if I didn't know who they were, I'd presume that Sofia was the oldest as she seems more mature in many aspects (this wasn't meant negatively). I do like how close Leonor and Felipe seem to be.
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Old 09-08-2018, 02:33 PM
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Few more photos from today.

https://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?...018%20Asturias
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:11 PM
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Here are two more ppe galleries and an article about the National Park visit:


** ppe gallery 2 ** ppe gallery 3 **


** dailymail: Spanish royal ramblers: Spain's Queen Letizia and Princess Leonor take in the scenery and stretch their legs as they mark 100 years..**
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Old 09-08-2018, 06:04 PM
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Nice to see them in Covadonga & the Picos the Europa. I was there the previous summer for holidays and it is a very beautiful part of Spain & relatively unspoiled by mass tourism.
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Old 09-08-2018, 07:41 PM
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Looks lovely there. Here’s a little village they might want to visit:

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/spa...d-restoration/

Here are a bunch of HQ photos. How beautiful the countryside is- looks very much like the Dolomites.

https://www.therealmyroyals.com/king...-in-covadonga/
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Old 09-08-2018, 10:13 PM
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Lovely visit! I loved the pics of Leonor with the baby. She might have her mom's love for babies I think!
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:32 AM
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Why did they arrive so late? It was uncomfortable to watch the dignitaries wait for them for such a long time, and the reporters tried to speak and interview people to get something to broadcast. They were lucky to have such a good weather. Obviously the mass was then also delayed and the people had sat at the church for a very long time before the royals arrived.
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Old 09-09-2018, 03:21 PM
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Thanks for the additional photos! Asturias does look like a very beautiful part of Spain indeed. I'd love to explore northern Spain as so far I've only been to Andalucia and the Balearics where I often have summer holidays. Spain is my favourite country in the world as I love the Spanish language and culture.
Before I know it I'll be checking out holidays in Asturias, haha. Do Letizia's parents still live in Oviedo? I wonder if they visited them privately when they were there.
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I think Letizia's family were there yesterday and that they all reside in Madrid.
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When Letizia was in High School the family moved to Madrid for her father's work, and her parents still live in Madrid. Her paternal grandmother and other extended family still live in Asturias, she was in Covadonga for the mass, and the reception in the hotel. Letizia's father was also in Covadonga and he hiked in the Lakes to the viewpoint in the afternoon.

Asturias is beautiful and green and most of the scenery and nature is unspoilt, the beaches are also amazing. The north of Spain, the Cantabrian coast, is different from the more touristy parts of Spain and well worth a visit imo. The royals and the aristocrats used to holiday on that coast until 40,50 years ago. The weather is much rainier and "colder" than the rest of Spain, though.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:17 PM
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Having seen the scenery from the Principality of Asturias its on my bucket list to see it was simply stunning.
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Old 09-09-2018, 04:52 PM
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Why did they arrive so late? It was uncomfortable to watch the dignitaries wait for them for such a long time, and the reporters tried to speak and interview people to get something to broadcast. They were lucky to have such a good weather. Obviously the mass was then also delayed and the people had sat at the church for a very long time before the royals arrived.
There’s a post upthread explaining it- apparently helicopters couldn’t land because of fog and had to land elsewhere.
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:11 AM
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H.M.King Juan Carlos and HRH The Infanta Elena,Duchess of Lugo are at the Real Club Nautico de Sanxenxo for the Copa del Rey Juan Carlos I de Vela regatta.


https://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_es...atas-sanxenxo/

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https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:22 AM
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H.M.King Juan Carlos and HRH The Infanta Elena,Duchess of Lugo are in Palma de Mallorca for the Copa del Rey Juan Carlos I de Vela regatta.


https://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_es...atas-sanxenxo/

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They are in Sanxenxo (Galicia), not in Mallorca
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H.M.King Juan Carlos and HRH The Infanta Elena,Duchess of Lugo are at the Real Club Nautico de Sanxenxo for the Copa del Rey Juan Carlos I de Vela regatta.


https://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_es...atas-sanxenxo/
The first 9 photos of the following gallery are also from yesterday, September 22:


** profimedia gallery **


And here are some photos of September 21:


** rex gallery **
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King Felipe and his sister Infanta Elena are certainly the most sportive members of the RF,hopefully Felipe's daughters will inherit the family sports gene.
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King Juan Carlos and Infanta Elena presented the trophies on the final day of the Regata Rey Juan Carlos I yesterday, September 23:



** On board ** Ceremony ** Ceremony 2 ** infosailing gallery ** rex gallery ** belga gallery ** gettyimages gallery **
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