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Often everything depends of the agenda or of the place where the funeral is celebrated, it is not the same thing that is in Madrid, or that is like in this case in Sevilla. The news of the death was known on Sunday, the funeral was Monday morning. He was a cousin of the King, it would be he who had relation with his cousin, and he cannot travel.
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Often everything depends of the agenda or of the place where the funeral is celebrated, it is not the same thing that is in Madrid, or that is like in this case in Sevilla. The news of the death was known on Sunday, the funeral was Monday morning. He was a cousin of the King, it would be he who had relation with his cousin, and he cannot travel.
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That's true,but he could have sent his elder sister the Infanta Pilar,we haven't seen much of her of late 
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05-26-2010, 12:16 PM
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The Infanta Pilar and the Infanta Margarita do not have official activity, they have their lives and their activities, and the King cannot have them when he wants.
Neither is known the relation that they had with this relative.
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05-26-2010, 12:22 PM
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The Infanta Pilar and the Infanta Margarita do not have official activity, they have their lives and their activities, and the King cannot have them when he wants.
Neither is known the relation that they had with this relative.
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My comments were in jest & not meant to be taken as literal .
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06-07-2010, 12:37 AM
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President of Ukraine met Duke of Calabria
President of Ukraine Victor Yanukovych discussed urgent international issues with member of royal family Infante of Spain, Prince of Two Sicilies, Duke of Calabria, cousin of Spanish King Carlos de Bourbon.
According to an UNIAN correspondent, the meeting took place in the Administration of President of Ukraine within the frameworks of the visit of representative of the Spanish royal family to Kyiv.
The President also noted an importance of the visit of King of Spain Juan Carlos I and Prime Minister of Spain Rodriguez Zapatero, which is scheduled for 2011. - UNIAN
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09-26-2010, 12:23 PM
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A little tribute to the woman who could has been Queen of Spain and France.
María del Carmen Martínez- Bordiú Franco borned in Pardo Palace in winter of 1951. She is daughter of Cristobal Martínez Bordiú and Carmen Franco, and also grandaughter of last Francisco Franco, dictator in Spain from 1939 to 1975. She has got other 6 siblings: Mariola, Merry, Aranxta, Francis, Cristobal and Jaime.
She grew up in Madrid where she had the best education - like for a princess.- between Spain and Switzerland. She was one of the most beutiful ladies of the spanish high society.
In 1970 she started a relashionship with Alfonso of Borbon and Dampierre, prince of France and grandson of King Alfonso XIII. Two years later they got married in the Palace of Pardo. Between the guest were Prince Rainier and Princess Grace of Monaco.
Alfonso and Carmen got two son: Francisco and Luis Alfonso. The older died in a traffic accident in 1986.
In 1980 Carmen left Alfonso and her sons for moving to Paris with antiquer Jean Marie Rossi who was divorced. Alfonso and Carmen divorced in 1984. Jean Marie and Carmen married in secret. They had a girl, Cynthia.
Despite the divorce in the 90s Jean Marie Rossi and Carmen have got a wonderful relashionship. In 1996 Carmen started other relashionship with Roberto Federicci, an italian. They never got moarried and they separated in the early 00s.
Finally, Carmen started an affair with Jose Campos which finished in a great wedding in 2005.
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Carmen was a beautiful woman but now she seems rather bizarre (plastic surgery?).
Her daughter is an outstanding beauty.
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09-26-2010, 02:05 PM
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Yes regina, I think she was more beautiful before the surgery, however i admire her hard personality and - in my opinion- she is one of the most atractive woman of Spain or "was".
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Carmen was a beautiful woman but now she seems rather bizarre (plastic surgery?).
Her daughter is an outstanding beauty.
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I do not think that she had surgery, she just got some weight.
Have a lok to this pictures, she is magbificent. It is when her son got marrried, abt 3 years before/
http://i55.tinypic.com/1q527s.jpg
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Dear Sensibility,
Thank you for sharing these awesome photos!
I have seen a Spanish TV miniseries 'Alfonso el principe maldito' recently. I was impressed greatly with the story of the Duke of Cadiz's family.
Have you seen this miniseries? How close is the series' storyline to the real Carmencita's life? Did she really bring bad luck into her family?
Thanks a lot! 
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Dear Kasumi,
I watched that program too. I think it is a nice work but unfortunatly it was really far of the real life, I am close to Franco family because of familiar links and there´re facts that never happened as Maria del Carmen says. On Tv has appeared people like Mirta Miller or Mercedes Harto who has talked about the tv serie of Duke of Cadiz. All of they say that the storie that the production tell isn´t true at all.
Some facts are:
- Jaime Rivera never stayed at Pardo Palace.
- Alfonso never met Jaime Riviera.
- Carmen were in Stockholm for a familiar visit to Nordic countries and they stayed at the Stockholm Embassy but her interest isn´t visit Alfonso.
etc etc
Hugs..
I would love to see the Hormigas Blancas tv program about Carmen but I can´t find it.
Do you know how to watch it?
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Really I am reading things that do not correspond to the reality I watch every day at tv. 
Carmen Martínez Bordiu is a personage who goes to the televisions and the magazines selling her private life. She does not have problems in going to the most yellow programs to sell her intimacy, for example to discuss if her husband has gone with a prostitute. And only for money. If at some time she had class, she has lost it totally. Her scandals, those of her husband, those of her brothers, speak about the dictator grandfather ... any opportunity is good to earn money.
I really do not think a forum on the Spanish monarchy, is most appropriate to talk about her. She was married to a Bourbon, but that was long ago. Nor a forum to speak about the history of the Family Martinea Bordiu Franco ... probably Luis Alfonso forum is more appropriate. 
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Her scandals, those of her husband, those of her brothers, speak about the dictator grandfather ... any opportunity is good to earn money.
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I am sorry Lula, but I am not agree with you in that fact. She has always respected her siblings intimate and she never talks about her grandfather, the dictator Franco. That´s something that she always respect.
About the fact she sells her private life to tv, this is a democratic country in where all people can sells everything. She talked about that prostited for defend her honour, i think that´s all.
When she starts to dance in a tv program all changed, she start to be funnier and i love that on her, don´t you.
And finally, in conextion with your last opinion about this forum, I respect your opinion but we shouldn´t forget that she could has became in the queen of Spain if her grandfather would has changed her decisition. She has always been stunning! i love her and i think a lot of people in this forum too.
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He was the only one of Alfonso XIII's illegitimate children to have the King officially acknowledged as his father, wasn't he?
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He was the only one of Alfonso XIII's illegitimate children to have the King officially acknowledged as his father, wasn't he?
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He had to do so through the Spanish Courts in May 2003,I don't think he had any relationship with the Spanish Royal Family.
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 From what I have read, he had a pretty descent relationship with his half brother. He had a tutor and education paid for by his father growing up though not recognized back then.
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Don Juan, Count of Barcelona, not only was aware of the existence of a bastard brother, but was always temporizing with Leandro. He even had him certain courtesies, such as invite some family celebrations, including their golden wedding, probably to avoid the scandal that became known the existence of this illegitimate Bourbon. Behavior that also exhibited his son Juan Carlos especially at the beginning of his reign, as recognized Leandro own, especially in the period when Sabino Fernández Campo served as Head of His House. "When we give him a hug, call me uncle and even when princesses Elena and Cristina were small, I went to Zarzuela to know them and the King said, "Girls, give a kiss to your uncle Leandro".
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It seems things soured after the death of JC's mother Maria Mercedes in 2000. It led eventually to him publishing a book about his paternity and the eventual paternity suit.
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