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04-28-2007, 02:30 PM
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Her correct name is "Czartoryska" with "a" at the end, name "Czartoryski" with "i" at the end is reserved for male
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05-08-2007, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zarat
Her correct name is "Czartoryska" with "a" at the end, name "Czartoryski" with "i" at the end is reserved for male
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Maybe she let herself be introduced as Czartoryska y Borbon - the Spanish way to use both father's and mother's last name? I think I read somewhere that she run the London marathon lately? Have to check.
I found this short biography of her on the web:
Tamara Czartoryski-Borbon
Princess Tamara Laura Czartoryski- Borbon was born in 1978 the daughter of Prince Adam Karol Czartoryski, who is a cousin of King Juan Carlos I, King of Spain.
HRH Princess Tamara appeared in Channel 4's The Games in 2005, with the likes of Anna Walker, and according to the Channel 4 site Tamara left school at 15 and pursued a career in show jumping, presented a Thai Kick boxing show as well as appearing in Full Throttle Famous for Granada and Celebrity Five Go Dating.
This all has the ring of plausibility. Tamara Czartoryski- Borbon's father is a martial arts expert, and Tamara was a showjumping expert in Channel 4's Faking It in February 2004. In Nancy Banks-Smith's review of the show it refers to Princess Tamara having acted in Carry On:
"There were three judges in Faking It (Channel 4). Lord Patrick Beresford, silver-haired scion of a noble house. Dr Dallas Burston, trust him, he's a doctor. And Princess Tamara Czartoryski- Borbon, Carry On actress and horsey cousin of the King of Spain. Which do you think is the fake? That was my feeling too. Even with a swig of Pol Roger, I found it hard to swallow Princess Tamara Czartoryski- Borbon...."
Princess Tamara, who ran in the 2006 London Marathon is a keen snowboarder, water skier, skydiver and kick boxer. She has presented Thai Kick Boxing, Full Throttle and Celebrity 5 Go Dating.
She has also filmed a children’s show It’s a Girls Thing for Sky One Mix and the ITV drama The Stepfather.
from: Biography of Tamara Czartoryski-Borbon
And here is the info about the marathon:
The National Autistic Society - Princess Tamara Czartoryski Borbon lets her legs do the talking for the NAS
Princess Tamara Czartoryski Borbon lets her legs do the talking for the NAS
Model and TV presenter Princess Tamara Czartoryski Borbon has chosen to take part in this year's Flora London Marathon on 22 April, to raise funds for The National Autistic Society (NAS), the UK's leading charity for people with autism.
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05-30-2007, 06:13 PM
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I´m form spain and i dont know who is Princess Tamara
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05-30-2007, 07:39 PM
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I get the feeling that she doesn't live in Spain. Her accent sounded totally like someone brought up in England.
Her connection with Spain is only that her paternal grandmother was the sister of King Juan Carlos's mother. Although her grandmother, Pss Dolores of Bourbon Two Sicilies, is from a junior line of the 'Spanish' Bourbons, their title came from Italy.
This all seems to be genuinely true from the genealogies - she is not a fake. Just a rather 'modern' sort of princess.
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05-30-2007, 10:31 PM
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If she is claiming first cousin, then her father and the king are cousins. Since her father is a cousin, that makes her a first cousin.
I understand the the "one removed" is to indicate generations. So is it is twice removed it is two generations past. But I'm not 100% sure on the generations removed thing.
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06-04-2007, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Alison20
I get the feeling that she doesn't live in Spain. Her accent sounded totally like someone brought up in England.
Her connection with Spain is only that her paternal grandmother was the sister of King Juan Carlos's mother. Although her grandmother, Pss Dolores of Bourbon Two Sicilies, is from a junior line of the 'Spanish' Bourbons, their title came from Italy.
This all seems to be genuinely true from the genealogies - she is not a fake. Just a rather 'modern' sort of princess.
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I think that she doesn´t live here, in Spain too
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03-08-2011, 08:58 AM
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Hi!
I see you have good know about Czartoryski family.
I make research this family, now - it`s my desertation and hoby, now
And have not informashion about all Adam Ludwik Czartoryski`s daughters.
Ludwik has more children. And i`m interesting about all his daughters.
I know - Elżbieta married Stefan Adam Zamoyski on June 26, 1929 in Głuchów.
And others:
Małgorzata Izabella
Izabella Czartoryska
Anna Maria
Teresa
now i have a little information about them. i hope this haven`t some secret ))
May be you can help me? please.
p.s. my English may be not very good, sorry ))
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04-19-2011, 10:34 AM
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contact with Tamara Czartoryska My cousin
Hello, could you help me contact Tamara Czartoryski, because I think we might be cousin.
My name is Christopher Zagorski-Czartoryski
I am the great great grand son of Wladyslaw Czartoryski.
(1828-1894)
She can write me on my mail: zag@internet.lu
thank you
Christopher Zagorski-Czartoryski
Bonjour, pourriez-vous m'aider à entrer en contact avec Tamara Czartoryska, car je pense que l'on pourrait être cousin.
Mon nom est Christophe Zagorski-Czartoryski
Je suis l'arriere arrière petit fils de Wladislaw Czartoryski.
(1828-1894)
Elle peut m'écrire sur mon mail: zag@internet.lu
merci
Christophe Zagorski-Czartoryski
Witam, może mi pomóc kontakt Tamara Czartoryski, ponieważ myślę, że możemy być kuzynem.
Nazywam się Krzysztof Zagórski-Czartoryskich
Jestem świetne wielkiego syna Władysława Czartoryskiego.
(1828-1894)
Ona może napisać do mnie na mój mail: zag@internet.lu
dziękuję
Krzysztof Zagórski-Czartoryski
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04-23-2011, 04:10 PM
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Happy Birthday, Tamara!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday to you!
Happy Birthday, dear Tamara, Happy Birthday to you!
I want to wish you be the most beautifully girl on planet, have more friend, more happy.
I wish you to have all what you wont.

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She is not the King's first cousin, her father is. She is daugther of HRH Prince Adam Czartoryski, son of HRH Princess Maria de los Dolores of Borbón Dos Scilias (sister of the later Contess of Barcelone, King Juan Carlos mother) and HRH Prince Jose Augusto Czartoryski.
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Her father Prince Adam Czartoryski is not HRH,but HSH...
But,it is also interesting that her paternal grandfather,Prince August Czartoryski (husband of Princess Maria Dolores of Bourbon Two-Sicilies) is himself the grandson of Princess Marguerite d'Orleans,granddaughter of King Louis Philippe of the French and daughter of Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha,who was in turn first cousin of both Queen Victoria and Prince Albert,as well as niece of King Leopold I of the Belgians...
Very impressive connections indeed :)
So,she can say that she is first cousin once removed of King Juan Carlos...
First cousin x times removed of Queen Victoria...
First cousin x times removed of Prince Albert...
graet-great grand niece of King Leopold I of the Belgians.
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07-17-2021, 09:15 PM
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Prince Adam Karol Czartoryski is the son of Prince Augustyn Józef Czartoryski (1907–1946) and Princess María de los Dolores of Bourbon-Two Sicilies. Through his mother, he is the first cousin of King Juan Carlos I of Spain. He is the head of the Polish House of Czartoryski, descendants of Gediminas (died 1341), ruler of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Karol_Czartoryski
Biography of Princess Tamara Czartoryska:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamara_Czartoryska
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Jozef August Antoni Maria Pius Prince Czartoryski (Warsaw 20 Oct 1907-Seville 1 Jul 1946); m.(civ) Lausanne 12 Aug 1937 (rel) 16 Aug 1937 Pss Dolores of Bourbon-Two Sicilies (Madrid 15 Nov 1909-Madrid 11 May 1996)
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Originally Posted by Warren
Take three Princesses of Bourbon-Two Sicilies, all sisters:
• Princess Dolores > grandmother of Princess Tamara Czartoryski
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Originally Posted by xicamaluca
She's daugther of HRH Prince Adam Czartoryski, son of HRH Princess Maria de los Dolores of Borbón Dos Scilias (sister of the later Contess of Barcelone, King Juan Carlos mother) and HRH Prince Jose Augusto Czartoryski.
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But,it is also interesting that her paternal grandfather,Prince August Czartoryski (husband of Princess Maria Dolores of Bourbon Two-Sicilies)
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Originally Posted by Alison20
Although her grandmother, Pss Dolores of Bourbon Two Sicilies, is from a junior line of the 'Spanish' Bourbons, their title came from Italy.
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Originally Posted by Blog Real
Prince Adam Karol Czartoryski is the son of Prince Augustyn Józef Czartoryski (1907–1946) and Princess María de los Dolores of Bourbon-Two Sicilies.
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Her Spanish grandmother's designation was Princess Dolores of Bourbon and Orleans. Bourbon-Two Sicilies was the name taken up subsequently by Dolores's half-brother Infante Alfonso of Spain.
This post was written in regard to Dolores's (full) sister María de las Mercedes, but it applies to Dolores equally:
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Originally Posted by Tatiana Maria
Up until now, I haven't found a mention of María de las Mercedes (or her siblings) being known with the title "Prince(ss) of the Two Sicilies" or "Prince(ss) of Bourbon-Two Sicilies" prior to her half-brother, Infante Alfonso, assuming the headship of the House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies in 1960, though please correct me if I am wrong.
María de las Mercedes' act of birth bore the title HRH Princess of the House of Bourbon:
Acta de nacimiento y presentación de S. A. R. la Princesa de la Casa de Borbón que ha dado á luz la Serenísima Señora Infanta Doña Luisa Francisca de Orleans.
http://www.boe.es/datos/pdfs/BOE//19...0689-00691.pdf
Here is an article regarding their titles:
Infantes de España
In a Royal Decree issued in March of 1929, she and her sisters had the style of Serenísima Señora, the title of Princess, and the surname de Borbón y Orleans:
Queriendo dar una prueba de Mi Real aprecio a las Serenísimas Señoras Princesas Doña Dolores, Doña María de las Mercedes y Doña María de la Esperanza de Borbón y Orleáns; […]
http://www.boe.es/datos/pdfs/BOE//19...2010-02010.pdf
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Her father Prince Adam Czartoryski is not HRH,but HSH...
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I am not sure about that. Is he not entitled to that rank under the laws of the Spanish Royal House prior to 1978?
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Originally Posted by zarat
Her correct name is "Czartoryska" with "a" at the end, name "Czartoryski" with "i" at the end is reserved for male
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As Jo of Palatine pointed out, Czartoryski is the variant she has chosen to use herself. It is a prevalent practice for women with Polish surnames who live outside of Poland to be styled with the male ending.
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