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As Alphonse XIII Grand Son , he was born Royal Highness. Why did he loose it?
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It was because Franco acknowledged Infante Jaime's wife and descendants as HRH, but the royal family did not, apart from Alfonso de Borbón y Dampierre after Franco issued a decree to confirm Alfonso as a Royal Highness in 1972. Alfonso remained HRH after Juan Carlos ascended the throne, but not his mother, brother, and children.
HRH was not automatic for all children of Infantes and Infantas of Spain; the marriage needed to be "equal". Given that King Juan Carlos's uncles, aunts, and sisters all made unequal marriages to nobles or commoners, their spouses and children were morganatic and were not addressed as HRH by the royal family.
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Eugenia Martinez De Irujo in her Instagram
"Thank you Queen Sofia for always being so spectacularly impeccable! This day was the saddest of my life but She consoled me with so much love ... I will never forget it❤️❤️❤️"
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Doña María del Carmen Martínez-Bordiú Franco has applied to be confirmed as successor of her mother to the title of Duke of Franco:
https://www.boe.es/boe/dias/2018/03/...2018-19174.pdf
Since she is the eldest child of the last holder, according to the 2005 rules nobody can challenge her request so it's quite sure that she will be confirmed as second Duchess of Franco. |
I think there have been calls from left leaning politicians to revoke the title of Duke or Duchess of Franco.
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04-19-2018, 03:24 PM
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Is there anything known about the bride-to-be?
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04-19-2018, 04:04 PM
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Is there anything known about the bride-to-be?
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Quite a lot. Her father is an architect (once a rather famous and rich one, the last apparently not as much nowadays because of some fraudulent actions) and mother has an art gallery where Sofia works - there are several artists in her family; her aunt is a designer and will design her dress. They lived for many years on Mallorca and the family (she has 2 oldr brothers) moved among high society. Her parents are no longer together and she moved with her mother to Madrid while her father moved around the world. Sofía is 26. The couple has been dating for 5 years and met while studying at CIS (The College for International Studies) in Madrid.
That's what I remembered from reading this article yesterday.
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04-19-2018, 04:25 PM
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She's a beautiful and very stylish young lady congratulations to the happy couple!
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04-19-2018, 05:58 PM
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Is there anything known about the bride-to-be?
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She's distantly related to Margarita Gómez-Acebo y Cejuela, wife of Simeon II of Bulgaria. See this website for her ancestry:
The Heirs of Europe: ALBA DE TORMES
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04-19-2018, 06:06 PM
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THE wedding of the year in Spain tbh, I've heard great things about Fernando, he seems to be a very serious and good-natured young man, he has taken care of his younger brother, his mother's son from her second marriage since the boy's father and Matilde ended up in a bad way.
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04-19-2018, 06:32 PM
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Congratulations to the couple!
The bride-to-be is beautiful.
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04-19-2018, 07:03 PM
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Does the groom to be have a daughter from a previous relationship? His Wikipedia page says so but it isn't mentioned in the main text (and he has been with this future wife for many years now, so he must have been very young if true):
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Issue: Maria Luisa Fitz-Jamez Stuart Escarrer
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04-19-2018, 08:56 PM
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Does the groom to be have a daughter from a previous relationship? His Wikipedia page says so but it isn't mentioned in the main text (and he has been with this future wife for many years now, so he must have been very young if true):
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No, he doesn't.
In fact, Sofía is the first known girlfriend he's ever had.
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04-19-2018, 09:11 PM
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No, he doesn't.
In fact, Sofía is the first known girlfriend he's ever had.
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Thanks for the confirmation. That's what I thought. So, now I just wonder who this 'María Luisa Fitz-James Stuart Escarrer' is... As it doesn't make sense that this name showed up as his issue.
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04-19-2018, 10:53 PM
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Thanks for the confirmation. That's what I thought. So, now I just wonder who this 'María Luisa Fitz-James Stuart Escarrer' is... As it doesn't make sense that this name showed up as his issue.
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I also find it strange, since Cayetana de Alba had 9 grandchildren, the only ones married are Luis (son of Alfonso), who has no children yet, Jacobo (son of his namesake, who has a son and a daughter with Asela Pérez Becerril) and Javier (son of Alfonso as well, who married Inés Domecq and has a son and a daughter too).
Brianda, Amina, Luis, Cayetana, Carlos are all single.
No one with the Escarrer surname or related to that in this generation of the family.
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04-19-2018, 11:08 PM
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Someone edited the Wikipedia entry today and removed the reference to María Luisa Fitz-James Stuart Escarrer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...action=history
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04-23-2018, 03:34 AM
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Alejandra has always been incredibly discreet, the wedding was only known less than a week ago.
I guess her uncle Adolfo didn't go, he must still be angry at the title dispute 
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05-13-2018, 03:03 PM
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05-14-2018, 10:08 PM
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I think there have been calls from left leaning politicians to revoke the title of Duke or Duchess of Franco.
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Spain to keep nobility title honouring deceased dictator Francisco Franco
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The Spanish government has decided that it will maintain the title of the Duke of Franco. Its justice minister Rafael Català stated it will not be retracted as long as there are no modifications to the law regarding aristocratic titles. He asserted that it does not generate any privilege but is rather “honorary” just like any other noble rank. [...]
The Spanish Socialists party questioned whether it was appropriate to maintain Franco’s dukedom. [...]
The justice minister recalled that the title was granted by king Juan Carlos I, reproaching the Socialists who never made any attempt to withdraw noble titles through the historical law when they were in power.
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