Future and Popularity of the Spanish Monarchy


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I seriouly doubt they would be able to interview the Prince. "The powers that may be" won't like that.

PoA gives one "important" speech a year about the general issues and it is at the Prince of Asturias Awards. Am I correct?
 
The Prince belongs to that generation, for years has maintained contact with these young politicians will have to create change. He has been educated in a society very different from his father, and knowing that the Spain he was going to find was very different.

For example, today appears in the press one interview with the mayor of Girona, a catalan independentist. Probably at this time the Catalan question is one of the most complex political issues. This mayor praises the Prince to respect the Catalan language, and for making the effort to speak Catalan.

Right now, journalists conducting programs of political debate, say in interviews that they would like to interview the Prince, they believe it is necessary that people know who he is and what he thinks.

Felipe is not a politician and he will only say what the government allows him to say. Which is either pretty pointless or common sense. Unlike his father in the beginning, he holds no power to change things. And I simply don't see him as a strong moral authority, considering the baggage he brings along (JC's son, Palma scandal, a rather polarizing wife).

I'm pretty sure that Spain will not have their own 'Prince Charles', who is not afraid to speak out or tackle some controversial issues.
 
That's his most important speech of the year. But lately, especially in certain acts and certain times, the press is following and analyzing his speeches more.
 
I was reading certain articles today about the current crisis in Spanish political life. It seems the government is really in a hard spot; and with the Socialists de-valuated due to their recent term in government, apparently the Left might be on a rise in Castillian Spain (as it already is in Catalonia).. I'm afraid this is not good news for the monarchy.. It goes back to what most people here have said -the crisis is a very dangerous environment for the royal house; and everyone's hope is that they realize it (about which their actions so far seriously allow one to question how much they do..)
 

The headline is missleading (as often); people protested agains the Ministers politics... :argh::argh:

Spain's Queen Sofia has been booed by angry crowds as she arrived to open a new hotel in in Cangas del Narcea, northern Spain.
Police had to hold back crowds who were protesting against cuts to the coal mining industry.
The Queen was accompanied by the Minister of Industry, Energy and Tourism.
More than a hundred miners took part in the demonstrations.
 
She was booed because she was being escorted by the Minister of Industry who is responsible for mining. The protesters were miners.
 
Maybe. But I found it interesting that the BBC reported this. Seems really unimportant to me.
 
From Vanity Fair, 6 pages article: Should the king abdicate, the scandals, infantas, Felipe's marriage.

For decades, Spain’s Juan Carlos was one of the most powerful and popular monarchs in Europe, hailed as the father of his country’s democracy. Today, he faces a crisis: his younger daughter and her husband enmeshed in a corruption scandal; his marriage to Queen Sofía on rocky terrain; his relationship with a glamorous German businesswoman under scrutiny. Might the 75-year-old king abdicate in favor of his son, Crown Prince Felipe, who shocked traditionalists by wedding an anchorwoman? Bob Colacello gets the latest from the inner circle in Madrid—and also hears from the lady in question.
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I personally believed that it would have been better if Prince Felipe had married a royal princess,” said Ramón Pérez-Maura, the assistant editor of ABC, the monarchist daily. “Having said that, and having seen Princess Letizia act over the last nine years, I think she’s done a fantastic job. She’s helped Prince Felipe meet groups of society he wasn’t familiar with, such as people in the media. And I like the fact that when they got married they started their honeymoon trip around Spain in a car, which nobody knew they were going to do. That was something that came out of her. And that’s brilliant.”

“The most important thing about Felipe and Letizia is that they are not linked in any way to any kind of corruption,” said Laurence Debray. “They were ambitious enough to stay away from it all. They cut off any relationship they had with Iñaki and Cristina. Felipe’s a good family man. He doesn’t have mistresses. He doesn’t go hunting. He’s very modern. The younger generation doesn’t care about Franco, or the Civil War, or the coup. For them, most of the royal family seems corrupt. They don’t work, and they have plenty of money. So Felipe is looking better every day, and so is Letizia.”
The Reign in Spain is Mainly on the Wane King Juan Carlos’s Controversies Vanity Fair
 
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What the Independent does is translate the general blur of the crisis as 'triumphal' for Republicanism. It is misleading to read it this way -but not much different than what one would expect from such an openly-republican newspaper..
 
The Vanity Fair article is rather odd. They conclude that Felipe and Letizia are not corrupt because they are ambitious. A very strange argumentation IMO.So if they would not be ambitious they would be corrupt? People are corrupt by nature, and only ambition will prevent them from being so? A rather cynical view. Odd how they try to turn around something normal (not being corrupt) to something negative. And not very subtle either...
 
I think something may have got lost in translation, Marengo. IMO, Laurence Debray was trying to say F&L set themselves apart from the rest of the SRF by their ambition and hard work. And also that Felipe isn't like his father and isn't trying to be. I believe "they have money" part was attributed to the whole SRF in general but the Princes of Asturias.
And to be honest, I wouldn't expect Vanity Fair to be cynical or republican. Afterall, it is earning its money through glamour and, although it has been rather muted lately, the Royal Family is part of that world.
 
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This is all so sad, and bad for constitutional monarchism anywhere.
He should abdicate and let the very capable and much more loved Prince of Asturias take the reins. Otherwise I fear the Spanish monarchy will come to an end pretty soon.
 
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How does abolishing a monarchy work? How would Spain's government go about getting rid of the monarchy? I know that if the monarchy is dismantled it's going to be a lengthy process, but how is it done?
 
The abolishment of the monarchy would be a complex process involving the political parties & public but its basically irrelevant - both political parties in Spain support the monarchy, therefore there will be no abolishment. The political system has lived well over the decades with the monarchy and they have no desire to change it.
 
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Very worrying news for the King who up until the last few years enjoyed widespread popularity,had some posted this 5 years ago we'd have all laughed!
 
I'm surprised it's only two thirds who wish to see the king step aside. :cool:
 
Did they ask the respondents why they think the king should abdicate? Queen Beatrix usually also had high scores in simular polls, but most respondents added that they wanted an abdication so she could enjoy retirement.

Although the king showed some wrong judgement, the opinion has changed rather quickly (from 80% in favour to 2/3 wanting him to abdicate -within two years!). And for what exactly? Does shooting an elephant and cheating on his wife (as many spouses do) erase his achievements?

In any case, the monarchy is the least of Spain's problems. Their prime minister is corrupt and yet he is allowed to stay. Perhaps he should give Inaki some tips.
 
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Did they ask the respondants why they think the king should abdicate? Queen Beatrix usually also had high scores in simular polls, but most respondants added that they wanted an abdication so she could enjoy retirement.

Although the king showed some wrong judgement, the opinion has changed rather quickly (from 80% in favour to 2/3 wanting him to abdicate -within two years!). And for what exactly? Does shooting an elephant and cheating on his wife (as many spouses do) erase his achievements?

In any case, the monarchy is the least of Spain's problems. Their prime minister is corrupt and yet he is allowed to stay. Perhaps he should give Inaki some tips.

People are fed up with the system. Having said that, I don't think you'll find a politician in Spain very high up the ladder and NOT be corrupt or have protection that is corrupt.
 
In DK ~40% would want the Queen to abdicate and make place for the younger generation although the Queen and the monarchy are very popular.

So what does the result of this poll actually mean?
 
Looks like 2014 could be cataclysmic for the Spanish Royal Family!

2012 & 2013 were bad but this year has already started off very badly for the King.
 
In DK ~40% would want the Queen to abdicate and make place for the younger generation although the Queen and the monarchy are very popular.

So what does the result of this poll actually mean?

I think it means a lot more - unlike Denmark, where they'd merely like Margrethe to abdicate, I believe in Spain they might start demanding it. Especially now that Cristina faces charges.
 
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