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04-15-2016, 08:29 AM
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April 14 is the anniversary of the proclamation of the Second Spanish Republic. That is why pro-Republic groups were demonstrating on the streets.
It is a fact that republicans are a large section of the Spanish population, but the relevant point is that, on the other hand, there is still a monarchist majority or, at least, a majority that doesn't see the need to change the system of government, even if they are not monarchists per se.
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06-28-2016, 09:15 AM
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I think the Spanish monarchy is secure. I believe that the majority of Spaniards see no need to change the system of Government. But there will be always manifestations of people who do not agree with the State leadership system, and are entitled to express themselves, but there's no need to boo the King.
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The Royal Family has been booed many times in recent years or decades, there is and has always been a strong anti-monarchy sentiment within the country.
These days they will be booed or worse eg in Catalonia or other independency-seeking parts but I agree that Spain has more pressing issues than getting rid of the monarchy.
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06-28-2016, 09:58 AM
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Although the Royal family has been booed often, we also saw many demonstrations of people supporting the Royal family. The monarchy has a lot of support in Spain and I have noticed that, although there is a part of the Spanish that you don't support the monarchy.
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Gosh, this is pure exstremism, if you think that terroristic associations burn photos, too. I wish this barbaric were legally punishabale....shame on them!
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12-12-2016, 05:18 PM
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Fewer Royals seem to be more hard working and/or well-intentioned than King Felipe. I don't follow the SRF particularly closely but his love for Spain and desire to be a good monarch comes through loud and clear.
These demonstrators should be careful what they wish for. They are barking up the wrong tree.
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12-12-2016, 05:26 PM
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In my opinion it has little to do with Don Felipe himself and everything with what he symbolizes: Spain. Separatists wanting to break with Spain burning a portrait with THE embodiment of Spain -the King- is a pretty easy-found target.
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^That's the point, yes.
Felipes future as King is very rocky and the seperation will imo eventually decide about it. How can you continue when an important part of Spain leaves? Very chaotic years are ahead I fear :/
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This is what happened in Spain is very sad. The King, the Royal family and the monarchy are among the few things that unites Spain still. The question of the independence of Catalonia is complicated and I don't believe that will happen in the next few decades.
I think most parties cannot defend independence.
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12-15-2016, 03:43 PM
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How totalitarian of democratic enlightened European Spain to arrest people, who just wished to express their opinion.
On a different note, the Spanish government has to find a way to settle the Catalan question. To the best of my knowledge, Catalans were vocal in calling for a possible referendum after King Juan Carlos' abdication.
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How totalitarian of democratic enlightened European Spain to arrest people, who just wished to express their opinion. On a different note, the Spanish government has to find a way to settle the Catalan question.
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The opinion must be expressed non-violently, without making threats or inciting hatred. The freedom of expression of a person ends where the fundamental rights of another person begin.
They were not arrested for burning the photos, they were arrested for not having fulfilled their obligation to go to testify to a court.
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A new association will be dedicated to promoting the monarchical sentiment among the Spaniards: the Union Nacional Monárquica de España. Its main objective is to "foster the history of the Monarchy and loyalty to the current Monarchic institution and the values that emanate from it for the benefit of the Kingdom of Spain and all Spaniards."
Nace una nueva asociación para fomentar la lealtad a la Corona
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A new association will be dedicated to promoting the monarchical sentiment among the Spaniards: the Union Nacional Monárquica de España. Its main objective is to "foster the history of the Monarchy and loyalty to the current Monarchic institution and the values that emanate from it for the benefit of the Kingdom of Spain and all Spaniards."
Nace una nueva asociación para fomentar la lealtad a la Corona
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Here's a translation,in future please post an English translation with your link if the article is not in English.
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Given the current situation in Catalonia one wonders what would happen with the monarchy if parts of Spain gained independence. Could the constitutional process initiated by such a thing happening lead to a republic?
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10-01-2017, 08:29 AM
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That situation in Spain is interesting to watch.
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Absolutely shocking pictures, how can you think that police violence can prevent anything. Catalans wanted to be heard, a majority possibly would have voted no anyway. Now this has escalated to no end and there will be worse tension than ever. Not only moderate Catalans are appalled but also the rest of Spain and the civilized world.
Catalans 'vote for independence' in 'illegal' referendum | Daily Mail Online
Felipe is sworn to political neutrality but has made clear that there is no other way than a unified Spain, same position like the central government in Madrid. But I am sure he strongly disagrees with any violence.
Rajoy is a hate figure for many now, I don't think this will reflect on Felipe in any way, but monarchy has never been popular in Catalonia, what could even be seen after the recent attacks when Felipe got booed, and it certainly won't get any better now.
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