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01-29-2020, 05:27 PM
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It was fantastic to see Princess Beatrix there and also to see a good turnout of non-reigning royals; too.
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01-29-2020, 06:51 PM
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She is on the side, with the children and grandchildren of Infanta Pilar. Infanta Margarita now uses a wheelchair, so sometimes she is placed where is more comfortable, without being so strict with the protocol.
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Ah, thanks, that makes sense.
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01-29-2020, 07:03 PM
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I suppose the young blond woman that accompanied Archduke Georg must be one of his daughters (Sofia or Ildiko IIRC)?
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01-29-2020, 09:51 PM
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So the king and queen greet the old king and queen and p Beatrice and ignore the sisters? Is that normal?
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01-30-2020, 01:05 AM
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This makes me so sad but seeing the array of non-reigning royals who attended also made me glad. May the late Infanta rest in peace.
I don't see Princess Alexia of Greece and Denmark in any photos. Was expecting Princess Birgitta of Sweden, Princess of Hohenzollern to show up too.
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01-30-2020, 02:33 AM
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So the king and queen greet the old king and queen and p Beatrice and ignore the sisters? Is that normal?
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Don Juan Carlos, Doña Sofía and Princess Beatrix are the former equals of today's King and Queen and all three are official members of a Royal House. It made sense that they were officially greeted.
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01-30-2020, 03:31 AM
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HRH Princess Irene of Greece and Queen Margarita of Bulgaria (a cousin of Infanta Pilar's husband) were there too.
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01-30-2020, 08:54 AM
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And the looks back to her as well.
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01-30-2020, 10:03 AM
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And the looks back to her as well.
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Wasn't quite as frosty as at Infanta Alicia's Funeral Mass 
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01-30-2020, 03:55 PM
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The Prince of Wales was represented by the Duke of Wellington at the Funeral Service for Doña Pilar de Borbón, Infanta de España, which was held at el Escorial Monastery San Lorenzo de el Escorial, Madrid, Spain
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...2020-23hvcfq6l
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01-30-2020, 04:25 PM
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01-30-2020, 07:19 PM
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Wasn't quite as frosty as at Infanta Alicia's Funeral Mass |
But was it typical, normal protocol for the king not to greet his sisters after he greeted his parents and Princess Beatrice?
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01-30-2020, 07:23 PM
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But was it typical, normal protocol for the king not to greet his sisters after he greeted his parents and Princess Beatrice?
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Your question was already answered. Read below:
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Don Juan Carlos, Doña Sofía and Princess Beatrix are the former equals of today's King and Queen and all three are official members of a Royal House. It made sense that they were officially greeted.
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01-30-2020, 07:54 PM
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It is weird that Felipe and Letizia turned back to greet Princess Beatrix, who is not family, and ignored Elena and Cristina.
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The Prince of Wales was represented by the Duke of Wellington at the Funeral Service for Doña Pilar de Borbón, Infanta de España, which was held at el Escorial Monastery San Lorenzo de el Escorial, Madrid, Spain
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...2020-23hvcfq6l |
The first Duke of Wellington, his ancestor, was the first Protestant , I think, to be made a knight of the order of the Golden Fleece. When Prince Albert later received the Golden Fleece, the Duke of Wellington represented the Spanish regency in the induction ceremony as Queen Victoria described in a letter to King Leopold I of the Belgians.
And, of course, the Duke of Wellington also holds the title of Duque de Ciudad Rodrigo in the Spanish nobility and is accordingly a Grandee of Spain.
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01-30-2020, 11:46 PM
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I feel like the Spanish Court still observes fairly strict protocol at these type of events. Felipe formally greeted his parents, who are also a King and Queen, as well as the former Queen Beatrix as a sign of respect. Everyone else’s job through the procession seems to be to look solemn and keep their eyes either on the King or straight ahead. And, of course, it’s a funeral, not really a good place for friendly greetings, (at least not at that part of it).
Unfortunately, if you don’t consider the protocol involved, the pictures and videos seem to show Felipe enthusiastically greeting Beatrix while barely acknowledging his own sisters. It’s an unfortunate and awkward visual but in reality they all acted appropriately. I’ve said before I think it would benefit the SRF to make an effort to be seen interacting in a friendly manner every once in awhile, even if they have to fake it. I don’t think they should start that process at a funeral, though!
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01-31-2020, 01:33 PM
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However, it's great to see that several fellow royals made the trip to Spain (or attended while living in Spain) to pay their respects at the service in honor of the infanta.
Unfortunately, it again shows the extreme coldness (close to hatred) between the sisters-in-law. They truly cannot stand each other; I don't get the same vibe from their brother.
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01-31-2020, 07:42 PM
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I understand that the Spanish Royal Family observes the strictest protocol, and they execute it flawlessly.
But I love to see united and close families convey some hint of warmth even in the midst of a ceremonial occasions and there was absolutely absolutely zero to see of it at La Almudena.
I can remember when Cristina and Felipe were the closest, most complicit of Royal siblings.
They appeared now as they sadly are...irretrievably estranged.
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