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I must admit that I´m having a hard time understand this "civil marriage". I don´t remember anything about it and since Pss Alexandra is a danish citizen, she doesn´t need a civil ceremony for the marriage to be legal binding.June 5th 1998, civil ceremony of Alexandra of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg and Jefferson Friedrich Greve von Pfeil.
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I don't think that Alexandra is a Danish citizen. According to Princess Nathalie's Wikipedia page ( Nathalie zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg ), Nathalie took Danish citizenship in 1996. For Nathalie that makes sense, because the Danishe citizenship enables her to take part in the big dressage championships with the Danish team. (In Germany there are so many world class dressage riders, that it is much more difficult to get onto the national team). From this I guess that Alexandra is still a German citizen.I must admit that I´m having a hard time understand this "civil marriage". I don´t remember anything about it and since Pss Alexandra is a danish citizen, she doesn´t need a civil ceremony for the marriage to be legal binding.
I think this the welcoming at the town hall, just like our CPC was received at the town hall of CPH before their wedding.
Pss Alexandra is a Danish citizen, She became that on the 19th May 1998 (as did Pss Nathalie), according to her Wikipedia page: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prinsesse_Alexandra_af_Sayn-Wittgenstein-BerleburgI don't think that Alexandra is a Danish citizen. According to Princess Nathalie's Wikipedia page ( Nathalie zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg ), Nathalie took Danish citizenship in 1996. For Nathalie that makes sense, because the Danishe citizenship enables her to take part in the big dressage championships with the Danish team. (In Germany there are so many world class dressage riders, that it is much more difficult to get onto the national team). From this I guess that Alexandra is still a German citizen.
Thank you for this information which is new to me. Since she changed her citizenship so shortly before her wedding, there seems to be a connection.Pss Alexandra is a Danish citizen, She became that on the 19th May 1998 (as did Pss Nathalie), according to her Wikipedia page: Prinsesse Alexandra af Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg - Wikipedia, den frie encyklopædi
So short before? It was over a year before So I still think that this "civil ceremony" wasn´t that, but a welcoming at the town hall of Gråsten.Thank you for this information which is new to me. Since she changed her citizenship so shortly before her wedding, there seems to be a connection.
Maybe she still wanted a civil ceremony at Berleburg, because she wanted to acknowledge her Berleburg heritage in that way?
I must admit that I´m having a hard time understand this "civil marriage". I don´t remember anything about it and since Pss Alexandra is a danish citizen, she doesn´t need a civil ceremony for the marriage to be legal binding.
I think this the welcoming at the town hall, just like our CPC was received at the town hall of CPH before their wedding.
According to the Wiki page you posted the became Danish on 19th May 1998 and married and 6th June 1998. That makes less than a month.So short before? It was over a year before So I still think that this "civil ceremony" wasn´t that, but a welcoming at the town hall of Gråsten.
Ahh, that´s right, they got married in 1998. I mixed it up and remembered it as if they were married in 1999 Sorry, then it is short before, but I think that was due to the paperwork (there is a law about this from the government).According to the Wiki page you posted the became Danish on 19th May 1998 and married and 6th June 1998. That makes less than a month.
Viv, about the membership of the church... I think she is a member, since the priest, who married them, was from the danish church in Paris. But I don´t know for sure.That makes two of us! I don't remember anything about a civil ceremony either! BUT:
The only thing I can think of is Alexandra's membership of the Danish Evangelical-Lutheran church! Citizenship and membership of Church of Denmark do no walk hand-in-hand automatically! At least one of the bridal couple must be a member of Church of Denmark for a legally valid marriage!. There could be a hitch there, because Alexandra never was a resident of Denmark and she wasn't baptized in Denmark, as far as I remember! However I'm convinced that detail would have been 'taken
care of ' for a member of the extended royal family.
Or what???
viv
about the membership of the church... I think she is a member, since the priest, who married them, was from the danish church in Paris. But I don´t know for sure.
I know that... My father is Pastor EmeritusWell, you're either baptized into the Church in Denmark OR if baptized abroad, you become a member if you register a such when moving to Denmark. If A was baptized in Denmark, she's considered a member!
viv
I don't know whether there was a legal wedding as well or not. I am not a expert on German law concerning the approval of getting married in other countries. In Germany it is law that you must have a legal ceremony, only religious ones are not valid. I know that legal ceremonies performed in other countries are also valid but maybe religious weddings are not. So it could be that they also had to get married legally to get marriage approval in Germany...
I don't know whether there was a legal wedding as well or not. I am not a expert on German law concerning the approval of getting married in other countries. In Germany it is law that you must have a legal ceremony, only religious ones are not valid. I know that legal ceremonies performed in other countries are also valid but maybe religious weddings are not. So it could be that they also had to get married legally to get marriage approval in Germany...
TRANSLATIONDen 6. juni 1998 blev Prinsesse Alexandra og Greve Jefferson gift. Brylluppet holdtes på Graasten Slot og vielsen fandt sted i Graasten Slotskirke.
Dagen før - den 5. juni - var parret med flere på Gråsten Rådhus for her at modtage byens gave. Ved denne lejlighed var der ikke tale om en vielse.
Med mange venlige hilsener
Gustav Grüner
So in short: There was no civil ceremony!On June the 6th 1998 Princess Alexandra and Count Jefferson got married. The wedding was held at Gråsten Castle and the ceremony itself took place in the church at Gråsten Castle.
The day before - June the 5th - was the couple at Gråsten Town Hall to receive the present from the city. At this occasion there was not talk about a ceremony.
Sincerely,
Gustav Grüner
Yes, the spirit is "ad fontes"That's the spirit, FasterB!
That´s exactly the photo I´m talking about. Pss Alexandra is on her way to the church and she´s walking down the stairs... The more I think about it the more I think it´s in colour, not B/WNext job is finding the photo of Pcs. Alexandra in her wedding finery! I vaguely remember it; I believe that you're referring to the "wedding dress shot" taken before the bride is off to the church.
Unfortunately I don't keep the issues of Billed-Blad that far back. There's not enough room in the attic!
Viv