Royal Family of Portugal 3: December 2007-

[Menarue]

Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker

As to Saramago, I think, he is a strange person with his theories of Portugal being incorporated by Spain. Also, I don´t think he deserved the Nobel Prize.

Well we are certainly agreed on that Carminha.... Not only has he strange ideas, his writing is unpunctuated and very very difficult to understand. Besides, in my personal opinion, terribly terribly boring.

[Menarue]

Originally Posted by Regina

I read about him right now on Wikipedia. The Wiki article says "Beira Alta", not North of Portugal... but who knows, maybe both places he helped to populate both places

Our house in the country is in Beira Alta and we always say "in the north" I think we are about 30 kilometres from Trancoso. Really north would be up on the border I suppose, in Melgaço or Bragança, but my husband considers himself from the north......
To go back to the priest, I wonder if he was the olden days equivalent of Brad Pitt or George Clooney (looks I mean).

[Regina]

Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker

My own ancestors came from Galizia, when Portugal was still tied up with Spain. They later settled in the region of Minho, north of Portugal. The Galizians speak very similar to Portuguese.

The Galizians and the Portuguese from Minho have also a very similiar personality.

As to Saramago, I think, he is a strange person with his theories of Portugal being incorporated by Spain. Also, I don´t think he deserved the Nobel Prize.

I second that! IMO, his books are just like his personality: boring, confusing, and unfruitful.

Originally Posted by Menarue

Our house in the country is in Beira Alta and we always say "in the north" I think we are about 30 kilometres from Trancoso. Really north would be up on the border I suppose, in Melgaço or Bragança, but my husband considers himself from the north......

I consider Beira Alta as centro. And everything above Oporto as North (Norte). Map

To go back to the priest, I wonder if he was the olden days equivalent of Brad Pitt or George Clooney (looks I mean).

haha! Well, I think that if Brad or Clooney had lived in that period of time, jealousy would had killed them!

Does anyone knows why D. Afonso has the title Príncipe da Beira (Prince of Beira)? D. Duarte has the same title and he uses it often. Do they share the title?

Pics of D. Afonso attending several events with his father

I don't know if these pictures were already posted. (I hope not. If they did, please delete them).

[Danny SR]

From what I understand, and I also remember reading somewhere D. Duarte saying that his son, not him was principe da beira since he is the heir. D. Duarte was principe da beira up to the birth of D. Afonso. When you see in reports D. Duarte being refered to as principe da beira I think its the reporter that doesnt know the diffrence.

[Menarue]

Hey Regina!!! We are next to Moimenta da Beira and my husband was born in Sernancelhe (some people say that Marques de Pombal was too, but even if that is not true the family house is still there and he (Pombal) must have been there often). The map says NORTH.....(admittedly JUST north).....
How on earth do you put smileys on a reply if you are not quoting? Help?

At this point Regina imagine a big bunch of smiley flowers.....

[Regina]

Originally Posted by Regina

Thanks to Menarue , I found out a very interesting thing. Maybe some of you already knew it, but well I didn't.

Several Presidents of USA, including George Bush (father & son) are descendents of D. Afonso Henriques, the first King of Portugal.

Click here
Those Presidents who have the red circle are descendents of William I of England.

One King William's descendents, King Edward I, married Leonor of Castilla who was a descendent of D. Urraca of Portugal (daughter of King D. Afonso Henriques).

I couldn't find Sarah Palin in GeneAll.net

Does anyone know something about her ancestry? Maybe she's related with Portuguese royalty too...

[Elsa M.]

D. Henrique and his girlfriend organized a common birthday party.
Isabel Nogueira celebrated her birthday on November 5th and shared her cake with the Duke of Coimbra, who turned 59 years old on November 6th.

Photos from Flash magazine:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8521/flashhp8.jpg

[Marengo]

Oh jolly, I wonder why Dom Duarte wasn't there . Did the 2nd brother, the duke of Viseu attend?

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Oh jolly, I wonder why Dom Duarte wasn't there . Did the 2nd brother, the duke of Viseu attend?

Yes, D. Miguel is the one with the beard.

[Marengo]

I thought I recognised him, so hence I wondered, as I thought he wouldn't be too happy with Mrs. Nogueira either. Are the brothers still on speaking terms with Dom Duarte btw, as he does not seem to be overly exited with Isabel Nogueira as the partner of his brother?

[Marie Gabrielle]

Hi!

I´m searching for infos and pictures about the frst wife of Miguel de Braganza. I hope someone could help me! I just have the article from wikipedia
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabe...hurn_und_Taxis.

Thanks

[Portugal]

I will try to find if I have anything.

Here is a good link with lots of photos but unforuntaly none of Isabel de Thurn e Taxis but they do have info on where she is buried and a photo of her resting place
Thurn und Taxis 1800-1899

I am also interested in the portuguese royals in Germany!If you have anything please post.

[Marie Gabrielle]

Thank you for the answer.


Maria Theresa of Austria, neé Braganza (1855-1944)
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o.../mariakarl.jpg

from the book "Das Familienalbum von kaiser Karl und Zita" by Gabriele Praschl-Bichler

Miguel de Braganza
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/o...1292dd6e84.jpg

Copyright:?

[Regina]

Originally Posted by Elsa M.

D. Henrique and his girlfriend organized a common birthday party.
Isabel Nogueira celebrated her birthday on November 5th and shared her cake with the Duke of Coimbra, who turned 59 years old on November 6th.

Photos from Flash magazine:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8521/flashhp8.jpg

Her dress is so awful, IMO. He seems to like her, anyway.
Does anyone knows the names of the ex-girlfriends of D. Henrique?

Does Isabel Nogueira have children?

[Elsa M.]

D. Henrique and Isabel Nogueira were among those who paid 500 € (each) to celebrate the Réveillon at Casino Estoril.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7...veillonqb1.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6...eillon2ab3.jpg


Curiously enough, the photos where he appears get his name wrong (both captions say he's another person: Pedro Campos Henriques )
Sapo - Portal Fama - Noite de luxo no Estoril

[Regina]

Isabel's dress is not pretty, IMO Pedro Campos Henriques and D. Henrique are so different haha! Oh these reporters...

Elsa, do you if Paulo Ferreira is the new boyfriend of Lili Caneças? I thought she was dating a veeery handsome young man called Carlos (or Pedro?) Pimenta.

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Regina

Elsa, do you if Paulo Ferreira is the new boyfriend of Lili Caneças? I thought she was dating a veeery handsome young man called Carlos (or Pedro?) Pimenta.

I've no idea... and I must add: I don't care either

[Elsa M.]

Originally Posted by Elsa M.

D. Henrique and his girlfriend organized a common birthday party.

A few HQ photos may be found at Isabel Nogueira's own blog:

IN Parties: Dupla celebração de aniversário no BBC – Jantar de aniversário de Isabel Nogueira e de Dom Henrique de Bragança
IN Parties: Festa dos meus anos – Convidados no BBC

[Regina]

Originally Posted by Elsa M.

A few HQ photos may be found at Isabel Nogueira's own blog:

IN Parties: Dupla celebração de aniversário no BBC – Jantar de aniversário de Isabel Nogueira e de Dom Henrique de Bragança
IN Parties: Festa dos meus anos – Convidados no BBC

Oh her dress...

[Marengo]

I wonder, did the duke and duchess of Bragança attend? Or Dom Henrique's other brother?