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02-13-2012, 12:16 PM
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I doubt there is anyone in Europe that thinks of monarchy as an absolute rule and tyranny. I think you have either wrong century and/or continent.
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Many people who live in rural parts of Portugal and other European Countries who are not very educated do believe Monarchy to be the King as head of state with all the power vested in him, I know as I am from there...
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02-14-2012, 07:16 AM
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04-28-2012, 05:28 PM
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05-18-2012, 10:43 PM
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What is the congress of royalists?
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05-19-2012, 12:12 PM
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Causa Real is an association of monarchists that promotes, defends the idea of monarchy in Portugal. Sometimes per year they are all together (or some of them) to discuss issues related to the insitution and others. That meeting is called Congresso =congress
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05-20-2012, 09:49 PM
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Causa Real is an association of monarchists that promotes, defends the idea of monarchy in Portugal. Sometimes per year they are all together (or some of them) to discuss issues related to the insitution and others. That meeting is called Congresso =congress
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Do you know how many members there are
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05-21-2012, 07:10 PM
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Are you asking about the number of people that belong to Causa Real or the number of people that usually attend the crongress?
In any case, I don't know any of the numbers, sorry. But there are for sure many more members that people in Portugal may imagine.
Causa Real is constituted by 11 Reais Associações (Royal Associations). Each Real Associação can represent a city (in case of Lisbon or my city Viseu) or a region (like Baixo Alentejo) depending on the number of members and other criteria. If you want to be a member of Causa Real you have to contact the nearest Real Associação. I searched on their website and couldn't find information about the number of members but here ( LINK) you have a list of the people who belong to the governing bodies and you see that's quite a lot of people.
Not all the members attend the congress of course. I actually think only a few of them do. Perhaps people from the governing bodies and not more
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05-22-2012, 10:32 PM
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Are you asking about the number of people that belong to Causa Real or the number of people that usually attend the crongress?
In any case, I don't know any of the numbers, sorry. But there are for sure many more members that people in Portugal may imagine.
Causa Real is constituted by 11 Reais Associações (Royal Associations). Each Real Associação can represent a city (in case of Lisbon or my city Viseu) or a region (like Baixo Alentejo) depending on the number of members and other criteria. If you want to be a member of Causa Real you have to contact the nearest Real Associação. I searched on their website and couldn't find information about the number of members but here ( LINK) you have a list of the people who belong to the governing bodies and you see that's quite a lot of people.
Not all the members attend the congress of course. I actually think only a few of them do. Perhaps people from the governing bodies and not more
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Thank you. Do you or anyone for that matter have a statistic on how many people are in favor of a monarchy?
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05-23-2012, 09:54 AM
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Well, my monarchist friends keep telling me about a poll made some years ago that concluded that around 10% of the people were in favour of the monarchy, around 10% were in favour of the republic and the other 80% didn't care about if we lived in a republic or a monarchy. I could never find that poll nor any other so I'm not sure if these numbers are reliable.... Perhaps other portuguese members here know about other statistics
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11-07-2012, 07:01 AM
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I met Prince Bertrand recently (also styled, like his brother, as His Imperial and Royal Highness). He seemed to me to be a most agreeable and benevolent soul much dedicated to Tradition in Faith and Society. When I mentioned the current socialist Brazilian president and his friend in Venezuela, Chavez his charming and gracious countenance was at once changed to anger. He was obviously no friend of theirs which is a good thing from my point of view since I too tend to be counter-revolutionary. Does anyone here know where I might find good, reliable information on D. Luiz, D. Bertrand and their relations. Thank you so much!
" HI&RH D. Luiz - Or Louis - has two big problems:
1-He´s a very ill man: At the childhood, he lost the motion of a leg and couldn´t even go to her mother burial - He had a big crisis.
2-HI&RH D. Luiz, as his brother D. Bertrand is member of a secret society called "Evergreen". The marriage isn´t allowed among them. it´s a group closed to the "catholic" brazilian elite. I could make a post about them..."[/QUOTE]
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I wonder will he get much attention or support?
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01-23-2013, 07:56 AM
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07-09-2014, 06:56 PM
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What do the polls say about the number of those who support Monarchy in the country?
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07-09-2014, 07:19 PM
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Polls? I don't remember any serious poll being done in this issue for many years. I've heard some monarchists talking about a poll once made which resulted in 10% supporting monarchy and 10% supporting republic with the rest being indifferent. But, to be honest, I never "saw" the results of that poll. Anyway, the general idea I have is that monarchists are in a bigger number than most people think but the majority of the people doesn't care about this issue.
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07-09-2014, 07:26 PM
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I think that the Portugese are very proud about their history and immense patrimonium. They take great efforts and pride in that. Yesterday we saw how President Cavaco Silva received the Spanish guests with a stunning grandeur. The acknowledge the role which was played by the House of Braganca in their history. They do that by respecting the position of the Duke of Braganca. And that is it. I don't think the Portugese want to go further than that. So no restoration of the monarchy indeed.
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07-09-2014, 07:35 PM
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Polls? I don't remember any serious poll being done in this issue for many years. I've heard some monarchists talking about a poll once made which resulted in 10% supporting monarchy and 10% supporting republic with the rest being indifferent. But, to be honest, I never "saw" the results of that poll. Anyway, the general idea I have is that monarchists are in a bigger number than most people think but the majority of the people doesn't care about this issue.
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Yes. I think that was never made a serious poll on the subject.
Also I think there's more to monarchists than people think. And there are also people who are indifferent about the matter.
Another question, are people who doubt the rights of d. Duarte as head of the Portuguese Royal House...
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07-10-2014, 05:39 PM
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Another question, are people who doubt the rights of d. Duarte as head of the Portuguese Royal House...
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Is there any other serious claimant? The current Braganca branch of Dom Duarte Pio is the only one left.
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07-10-2014, 06:00 PM
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There is no other serious claimant. There have been some other pseudo-claimants but they've never been credible, most monarchists didn't take them seriously and the rest of the population didn't even noticed they exist.
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