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Mind you, if Pedro could make her Queen, I suppose he could insist that one of her children become King after him.
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What about Ferdinand, the son he had with Dona Constanza of Castile? As a father, he couldn't ignore the existence of his eldest son, I guess.
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What a wonderful although sad story. Thanks! I had never heard of this one before. So what happened eventually to her descent?
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Inês and Pedro has the following children:
* Afonso, who died young
* Beatriz, who married Sancho of Castile
* João, married twice. First with Dona Maria Teles de Menezes and later with Constanza of Castile
* Diniz, who married with Dona Juana of Castile
João and Diniz were claimants to the throne, but they didn't reach it. After D. Pedro's death, Fernando was the King of Portugal, and after him D. João (the son of D. Pedro and another mistress, Teresa Lourenço) took his place.
D. João I would marry with the famous and very beloved Philippa of Lancaster, Princess of England, and future Queen of Portugal.
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01-22-2009, 04:55 AM
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What about Ferdinand, the son he had with Dona Constanza of Castile? As a father, he couldn't ignore the existence of his eldest son, I guess.
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He could have had him killed though, with a plotting 2nd wife still alive that would have been a likely scenario  .
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01-22-2009, 10:32 AM
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Even if he hadn't stooped to having his own son killed, I doubt Inês's brothers would have had many finer feelings about doing it.
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01-22-2009, 07:51 PM
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What an interesting story, and since I don't know anything about Portuguese history, it was very informative and fascinating read. Thank you!
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So what happened eventually to her descent?
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The most ironic thing about this story is that, despite every attempts to get Inês children away from the Portuguese throne, one of her great-granddaughters, Dona Leonor of Aragon, would end up getting married to King Dom Duarte...
After everything, all the kings from the 2.nd Dynasty descend from her 
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Oh, oh, I don't find words to express my astonishment about this incredibly touching story, which has been new to me.
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This image is so touching and shocking at the same time!  Do you know who is the author of this painting? When was it painted?
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03-04-2009, 06:51 PM
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This image is so touching and shocking at the same time! Do you know who is the author of this painting? When was it painted? |
Yes, Kotroman, this is indeed a wonderful picture of the dead queen.
It seems the Painter Vieira Portuense's school is credited with painting this picture.
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Elsa,
Thanks a lot for your brilliant story and for your great job!
I'd like to add the picture by Russian artist Karl Briullov (1799–1852) named "Death of Ines de Castro".
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01-09-2010, 07:35 PM
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The most ironic thing about this story is that, despite every attempts to get Inês children away from the Portuguese throne, one of her great-granddaughters, Dona Leonor of Aragon, would end up getting married to King Dom Duarte...
After everything, all the kings from the 2.nd Dynasty descend from her |
Part of her family became, later, related to our colonies in India, some members were actually "vice-reis" (don't know the correct translation into english... litterally is vice-king  ). I believe it is quite interesting when you see that the rest of her family became very related to Portugal in general.
Besides these paintings, we can't forget what Luis de Camões wrote about her, in Os Lusíadas (here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/lus/lusbk03.htm#fr_266 , p. 97 and next. I must say that it does sound much better in portuguese but it doesn't get any smaller ahah  )
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Thank you for bringing to us the details of this sad but extraordinary story !
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i'm sorry..i find it disturbing kissing a corpse....
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Oh what a wonderful touching story.. history is the best form of entertainment the mind can truly have. Thank you for sharing it with us.
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Part of her family became, later, related to our colonies in India, some members were actually "vice-reis" (don't know the correct translation into english... litterally is vice-king ). I believe it is quite interesting when you see that the rest of her family became very related to Portugal in general.
Besides these paintings, we can't forget what Luis de Camões wrote about her, in Os Lusíadas (here: The Lusiad: Book III , p. 97 and next. I must say that it does sound much better in portuguese but it doesn't get any smaller ahah ) |
The term is Vice-roy Juanita. Actually there are quite a few of her descendants still around in Portugal.
Perhaps kissing the hand was a bit grisly but you can´t blame King Pedro when you think that she had her throat slit in front of her children and he loved her dearly.
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What a beautiful and tragic love story. 
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The term is Vice-roy Juanita. Actually there are quite a few of her descendants still around in Portugal.
Perhaps kissing the hand was a bit grisly but you can´t blame King Pedro when you think that she had her throat slit in front of her children and he loved her dearly. |
Thanks Yes, we are quite a few and some of us came from India 
King Pedro made the portuguese nobility kiss her hand so they would sware their loyalty to the King, at least my teacher of History said so
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I knew the love story of Inès de Castro and King Pedro from the French tragedy The Dead Queen (La Reine morte), by Henry de Montherlant. It was recently adapted for TV with the original text. So tragic! 
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