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01-06-2020, 07:51 PM
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The Albion Art Institute has posted about the Russian Aquamarine Kokoshnik on Instagram which I assume means it's part of their collection now.
Instagram - Albion Art Institute
The caption reads,
"Imperial Russian Diamond and Aquamarine Tiara by Koch - Circa 1910
Provenance: Russian Imperial Collection
Materials: #Aquamarine #Diamond #Platinum #Gold
Country: Germany
Size: L100mm W140mm H50mm
Albion Art Jewellery Institute"
The information that the tiara was made by Koch is new to me but maybe I just missed it before.
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01-12-2020, 11:23 AM
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Hello, I am currently reading the book about Princess Helena Petrovna of Russia:
https://www.livelib.ru/book/10027119...sova?es=881807
I found that in the book that upon her marriage to Prince of Imperial blood, neither she nor Princess Tatiana Konstantiovna were allowed to wear Russian Crown jewels that were only reserved for weddings of Grand Dukes and Grand Duchesses.
Princess Helena's marriage was the first marriage of Prince of Imperial blood(with royal Princess) and Grand Duke Konstantin asked, through court secretary Count Henrikov, Emperor Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra for an answer about what kind of jewels will the bride wear and got the answer that "Crown jewels" were only reserved for weddings of Grand Dukes and Grand Duchesses. What is interesting is that Empress Maria Feodorovna(Dagmar) disagreed with their decision and thought that Crown Jewels should be worn by every member of the family that contracts allowed(don't know if this means equal) marriage, as she was very pro marriage between Princess Tatiana and Prince Bagration when most of the Imperial family were against.
Anyway, Helena was presented with a Faberge tiara of brilliants and pearls from Emperor and the Empress, costing 10.300 rubles. She also got a diamond necklace from her husband Prince Ioann, which could be converted and worn as a second tiara. There is only one picture of Helena wearing a tiara:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../fe/Elena2.jpg
Don't know about the date of this picture which could tell as if these jewels were worn by Helana as Serbian or Russian Princess. Here are few pictures of her mother Princess Zorka of Montenegro wearing similar tiara with floral motifs, but pictures are bad and can't be seen clearly enough:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/0a...f394d3667f.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/32...1861380a51.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/pr...h630-p-k-no-nu
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/e2...0b934bdeb9.jpg
This tiara seems to me like it was made from diamonds and pearls. Now, reading this book, regarding of the date, this tiara could be either her late mother's tiara of tiara/necklace she got from he husband. She was also presented with the order of Saint Catherine by their Majesties, but as I can't see clearly.
Regarding Princess Tatiana Konstantivovna of Russia and her marriage to Prince Konstantin Bagration-Mukhransky, she also got a Faberge tiara as a wedding present from Their Majesties, but this tiara was cheaper then the tiara made for Princess Helena Petrovna and costed 9.650 rubles.
This is Tatiana wearing this tiara:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._of_Russia.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._of_Russia.jpg
As almost nothing is known about jewels of these two Imperial ladies here is some little clue. If you have some thoughts, please share pictures, facts and thoughts in other jewel forums( Royal Jewels of the World Message Board), as I don't have access :-(
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11-11-2020, 02:42 AM
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Small picture of Princess Catherine Ivanovna of Russia, daughter of the above mentioned Princess Helena Petrovna wearing a tiara:
https://sun9-4.userapi.com/jL84xv0bU...upFs0FPbcY.jpg
Does anyone know anything about this jewel? Is it a Russian heirloom or maybe heirloom of the Marchese Farace di Villaforesta whom she married?
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11-11-2020, 06:12 AM
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No they are not the same,but yes,it is Russian!
Very delicate,I ve seen it many times during the exhibition.
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01-12-2021, 07:36 PM
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01-13-2021, 02:38 AM
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An interesting blog post by Prince Michael of Greece. He suspects that jewels of the last emperor and empress of Russia are stored in the basement of Windsor Castle:
THE TZAR’S TREASURE - Michael of Greece
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03-26-2021, 08:01 AM
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I can't help but thinking that this smells like a gorgeous marketing scoop for Chaumet. Perfect to attract the super-rich Russian clients, and the bride certainly also profited from the deal. Otherwise, she would probably keep her wedding tiara as a bid secret till the big day. Interestingly, they don't mention whether the tiara will be a loan or a purchase. 
And there are other questions that come to mind: Doesn't Maria Vladimirovna own any of the tiaras she has worn over the years? Were they all loans, or are they sold off? The pearl/ruby tiara hasn't been seen for decades. The contemporary pearl kokoshnik has been worn a couple of times, but her most recent tiara appearance was with an aquamarine kokoshnik that might have been another loan. Or has that to do with the relationship between the two women? Or, and this is what I hope, Maria Vladimirovna owns only one tiara and wants wear it herself for the wedding ball. That would point to a white tie reception with grand jewel to be seen.  Something to look forward to.
That said, I'm not so fond of the tiara she chose. Imo, it's too high to look really flattering, while the result of the airiness of the trellis work is the the tiara, despite being so high, gets lost in the hair. And the pattern itself somehow doesn't look endearing, imho.
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03-26-2021, 08:36 AM
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Or, and this is what I hope, Maria Vladimirovna owns only one tiara and wants wear it herself for the wedding ball. That would point to a white tie reception with grand jewel to be seen. Something to look forward to. |
Even better would be if the Wedding would be a white tie affair like the one of Maria Vladimirovna. But that is probably too much to hope.
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03-26-2021, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilia C.
I can't help but thinking that this smells like a gorgeous marketing scoop for Chaumet. Perfect to attract the super-rich Russian clients, and the bride certainly also profited from the deal. Otherwise, she would probably keep her wedding tiara as a bid secret till the big day. Interestingly, they don't mention whether the tiara will be a loan or a purchase. |
Royal Musings: Victoria Romanova Bettarini chooses her wedding tiara
More about the bride, wedding and choosing a tiara. Many factors decided, as you have guessed.
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03-26-2021, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilia C.
I can't help but thinking that this smells like a gorgeous marketing scoop for Chaumet. Perfect to attract the super-rich Russian clients, and the bride certainly also profited from the deal. Otherwise, she would probably keep her wedding tiara as a bid secret till the big day. Interestingly, they don't mention whether the tiara will be a loan or a purchase.
And there are other questions that come to mind: Doesn't Maria Vladimirovna own any of the tiaras she has worn over the years? Were they all loans, or are they sold off? The pearl/ruby tiara hasn't been seen for decades. The contemporary pearl kokoshnik has been worn a couple of times, but her most recent tiara appearance was with an aquamarine kokoshnik that might have been another loan. Or has that to do with the relationship between the two women? Or, and this is what I hope, Maria Vladimirovna owns only one tiara and wants wear it herself for the wedding ball. That would point to a white tie reception with grand jewel to be seen. Something to look forward to.
That said, I'm not so fond of the tiara she chose. Imo, it's too high to look really flattering, while the result of the airiness of the trellis work is the the tiara, despite being so high, gets lost in the hair. And the pattern itself somehow doesn't look endearing, imho. |
I'm certain Chaumet is benefitting from any interest around this wedding, the article in PdV and I assume they're loaning the tiara partly because of that. It certainly doesn't hurt to remind people of their long standing Imperial Russian connections.
However I have to ask, are the Russian super-rich going to be particularly interested in this wedding? Or discover interest in Chaumet because of it? Both Georgi and his mother seemed like a fairly minor deal in Russia, in the grand scheme of things despite their ancestors.
It will definitely be interesting to see what Maria wears. Rebecca was given the ring that Maria gave Georgi to give to his fiancee so I can't see that she'd refuse a tiara out of spite if she had one to loan.
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10-27-2021, 08:21 PM
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Better view of the diamond and pearl tiara worn by Helen Kirby at the recent Russian Imperial wedding:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...ETYERhUR6m0tmA
The tiara was worn many times by her half-sister Maria Vladimirovna, including at her wedding.
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11-18-2021, 09:13 PM
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Interesting website. Saw the Pansy Egg not long ago. Very beautiful.
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11-19-2021, 05:05 AM
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Interesting website. Saw the Pansy Egg not long ago. Very beautiful.
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Here is The Imperial Easter Egg Pansy of 1899.
http://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/b5/...1be3e6962d.jpg
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11-19-2021, 10:29 AM
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Yes. Saw the real one. The Lilies of the Valley basket is in the same collection.
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