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Old 09-08-2021, 12:57 AM
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I have often wondered why the different families have not purchased more jewels. Now that Covid has struck there has not been a lot of dinners, parties and like activities. Most have been cancelled or minimized. I wonder if the Families now think it is a good time to not spend money on such beauties but use it for other needed items for their countries, no matter if is a personal purchase or purchased by the government. I don’t see parties become a big thing anymore. I hope I am wrong, we will have to wait and see.
Usually there are just two or three State Visits per year. And increasingly the dresscode is no more white tie (which requires big jewels) but black tie or even 'just" suit-and-tie.

Apart from that also the State Visits have changed: no longer three days with two banquets and an evening at the Opera or so, three days with glittering jewels.

Even when Queen Máxima dazzled with grand jewels at the Dutch State Banquet in London: she wore no complete parure ánd there was no traditional second or third gala banquet. Queen Beatrix had three evenings with white tie in one visit (the British gala banquet at Buckingham Palace, the Lord Mayor's Banquet at the London Guildhall, the Dutch Gala Banquet at Hampton Court).

Another example is Paris, where French presidents used to pack out at the Élysée, at Versailles, at Fontainebleau, with royal ladies usually wearing their grandest parures. Now the dresscode for a diner the Palais de l'Élysée (but also in Berlin, in Rome, in Washington) is suit-and-tie or, in exceptional cases, black tie.

This means that there simply is no need for grand jewels. Look at Monaco: they seldom or never have State Visits, have no white tie events in the principality, so that ends up with Princess Caroline as only wearer of some historical pieces. If the possibilities are so rare, it is not strange royal families think their collections are sufficient.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:29 AM
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I have often wondered why the different families have not purchased more jewels. Now that Covid has struck there has not been a lot of dinners, parties and like activities. Most have been cancelled or minimized. I wonder if the Families now think it is a good time to not spend money on such beauties but use it for other needed items for their countries, no matter if is a personal purchase or purchased by the government. I don’t see parties become a big thing anymore. I hope I am wrong, we will have to wait and see.
A few points:

> In these times, personal wealth of the royal families is typically spent on jewellery, and not government monies. So the decision to purchase further jewellery or not is a personal decision, and usually does not take into account if the money can instead be used for government expenditure.

> IMO, the single factor that limits further purchases of jewellery by royals is PR and not wanting to appear profligate to the public. That said, different families do continue to add to their collections from time to time, just not the way Queen Mary would have done. For example, Mary acquired a new tiara, Maxima has her tutti-frutti necklace and emerald earrings, Camilla has her collection of chokers and Silvia just wore a new pair of emerald and diamond earrings.

> Despite the trend for fewer white tie events, royal families tend to have enough events in the course of the year to wear serious jewellery.
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Old 09-08-2021, 04:49 AM
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The Greek Royals' jewels are from Denmark, Russia, Hanover, you name it. Their very tight connections with the Spanish, Danish and British RFs suggest that they need to hold on to the jewels as they themselves are always included in formal events where historical jewels are expected. I think that such jewelry helps people preserve their sense of identity.



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The amazing emerald drops worn by Queen Freddi and Queen Anne-Marie ... well, I'd like to see a new setting for them. An elegant necklace with no clumsy pendant.
I have a particular attraction for the Romanov emerald parure, out of the beauty also for the historical value and the adventures it went through to still exist, especially how Queen Olga managed to save them from the bolcheviques.
Furthermore, now that the family doesn't reign anymore, I feel a little sorry about the parures future destiny. Will it go to Marie Chantal / Maria Olympia, with their glittering Hollywood life?
Will it go to Pcs Alexia and her simple low key life?
It will tremendously fit to Princess Tatiana, but she does not leave such life neither.
The fact is that historical parures are better in reigning families, as occasions to wear them are more an more. The non reigning, wear it only in weddings or some baptisms.

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Old 09-08-2021, 04:55 AM
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I have a particular attraction for the Romanov emerald parure, out of the beauty also for the historical value and the adventures it went through to still exist, especially how Queen Olga managed to save them from the bolcheviques.
Furthermore, now that the family doesn't reign anymore, I feel a little sorry about the parures future destiny. Will it go to Marie Chantal / Maria Olympia, with their glittering Hollywood life?
Will it go to Pcs Alexia and her simple low key life?
It will tremendously fit to Princess Tatiana, but she does not leave such life neither.
The fact is that historical parures are better in reigning families, as occasions to wear them are more an more. The non reigning, wear it only in weddings or some baptisms.

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The future of the Greek royal jewels, not just the emeralds, is an interesting question. I do not quite know how the family will resolve this, as I am sure, barring the Crown Prince and Princess, the others will probably prefer to have the money from a sale of the jewels.

Might it be possible for the Danish royal family to acquire the Khedieve tiara? The Danes tend not to flash their cash about, but I hope a way can be found for the tiara to return to the Danish main line.
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Old 09-08-2021, 05:01 AM
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The future of the Greek royal jewels, not just the emeralds, is an interesting question. I do not quite know how the family will resolve this, as I am sure, barring the Crown Prince and Princess, the others will probably prefer to have the money from a sale of the jewels.

Might it be possible for the Danish royal family to acquire the Khedieve tiara? The Danes tend not to flash their cash about, but I hope a way can be found for the tiara to return to the Danish main line.
Maybe King Constantine can donate it into the ownership of a family foundation, like so many other non-reigning (and some reigning) royal families have done.

When it is all in private ownership, a break up of the collection will be unavoidable in furtherer future as natural persons are subjected to equal inheritance rules (on the Continent) and of course to succession taxes.

Creating a legal entity as owner solves this but "deprives" heirs from quite substantial individual private wealth for the benefit of shared commonwealth.
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