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Old 11-25-2021, 06:46 PM
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On the Dutch language Wikipedia about Prince Charles of Belgium, Count of Flanders (brother of King Leopold III of the Belgians and of Queen Maria José of Italy) is to read:

In zijn testament liet hij het diamanten diadeem van keizerin Joséphine na aan zijn zus Marie-José.

Translation:
In his testament he bequeathed Empress Joséphine's diamond diadem to his sister Marie-José.

Two questions:
- which diadem is meant ?
- how came a diadem from Joséphine Bonaparte (formerly De Beauharnais) into Prince Charles' ownership?
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Old 11-25-2021, 11:59 PM
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The tiara you write about was made from diamonds gifted by Emperor Alexander I to Empress Josephine and then left to her son Prince Eugene. His Leuchtenberg descendants had a tiara made from the diamonds in the 1890s which was sold by them to King Albert after WWI.

http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/...tiara.html?m=1
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Old 11-26-2021, 01:10 AM
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The tiara you write about was made from diamonds gifted by Emperor Alexander I to Empress Josephine and then left to her son Prince Eugene. His Leuchtenberg descendants had a tiara made from the diamonds in the 1890s which was sold by them to King Albert after WWI.

The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Tiara Thursday: The Empress Joséphine Tiara
Oooow it is that diadem. Yes I remember it. What a fabulous effect this diadem must have had, with free hanging bricolette cut diamonds glittering in the lights of chandeliers and candelabras. The Swedish Connaught on steroïds, so to say.

It is a shame it left the Belgian and Italian royal families but okay. Now I can place this diadem the Wikipedia article mentioned.
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Old 01-18-2022, 10:41 AM
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Bourbon Parma Jewelry collection


From Sotheby´s with love!Stunning!

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Old 01-20-2022, 05:58 PM
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Diamond Tiara, Kochert, circa 1900
was given by Emperor Franz Joseph of Austria to Archduchess Marie Anne of Austria on the occasion of her wedding with Prince Elias of Bourbon-Parma in 1903.
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Old 01-20-2022, 06:04 PM
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Now that is a really beautiful fleurs de lys tiara and such a shame it was sold off.
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Old 01-25-2022, 06:24 PM
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An article from today's Guardian newspaper about attempts by members of the Italian RF to retrvieve the crown jewels:

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Descendants of the last king of Italy have made their first formal request to reclaim the crown jewels, which for almost 76 years have been stashed in a treasure chest in a safety deposit box at the Bank of Italy amid a long-running mystery over their ownership.

The bank took delivery of the jewels, comprising more than 6,000 diamonds and 2,000 pearls mounted on brooches and necklaces worn by various queens and princesses, on 5 June 1946, three days after Italians voted to abolish the monarchy and nine days before King Umberto II, who ruled for just 34 days, was banished into exile along with his male heirs.

Umberto II had tasked Falcone Lucifero, the minister of the Royal House, to bring the jewels to Luigi Einaudi, the then governor of Bank of Italy who later became president, for safekeeping.
Read the entire article here.

The photo that is shown is not a tiara from the Italian collection but a Flemish tiara that has recently been sold by Pss M. Gabriella.
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Old 01-25-2022, 07:48 PM
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I do hope the Bank of Italy and the Prime Minister will give them back to TRH.

The Republic just doesn’t care for those jewels, and pearls may be damaged irreparably. So, better to give them to someone who can’t value them and to be exhibited in Italy, as per the family’s request.
King Umberto gave them in custody, he didn’t hand them over.
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Old 01-26-2022, 06:55 AM
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I am not sure if the RF has much need of them either. They will most likely be auctioned of, esp. if they are to be shared between all children of King Umberto. Pss M. Gabriella already sold a large part of her collection. The prince of Venice still has a considerable collection of jewels, but sadly there are not amny ocassions where they can be used, other than a royal wedding every now and then.

But tucked away in a safe they are no good to anybody, so let's hope that one way or another they will re-appear soon.

What is the reason the state is so reluctant to give them up? Public outcry if they do end up with the RF perhaps? And is it known what jewels it would entail?
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:22 AM
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I am not sure if the RF has much need of them either. They will most likely be auctioned of, esp. if they are to be shared between all children of King Umberto. Pss M. Gabriella already sold a large part of her collection. The prince of Venice still has a considerable collection of jewels, but sadly there are not amny ocassions where they can be used, other than a royal wedding every now and then.

But tucked away in a safe they are no good to anybody, so let's hope that one way or another they will re-appear soon.

What is the reason the state is so reluctant to give them up? Public outcry if they do end up with the RF perhaps? And is it known what jewels it would entail?

And for some reasons the wives "stay home" when there IS a gala event:


Aimone di Savoia-Aosta without Olga
Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia without Clotilde
Charles-Philippe d'Orléans without Diana
Albert de Monaco without Charlène


Well, then indeed the jewels assemble dust...
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:24 AM
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And for some reasons the wives "stay home" when there IS a gala event:


Aimone di Savoia-Aosta without Olga

Actually both Aimone and Olga attended the white-tie Gala Dinner after the Wedding of Grand Duke Georgi of Russia recently. But sadly the Duchess of Aosta without major Jewels.
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Old 01-26-2022, 07:26 AM
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I am not sure if the RF has much need of them either. They will most likely be auctioned of, esp. if they are to be shared between all children of King Umberto. Pss M. Gabriella already sold a large part of her collection. The prince of Venice still has a considerable collection of jewels, but sadly there are not amny ocassions where they can be used, other than a royal wedding every now and then.

But tucked away in a safe they are no good to anybody, so let's hope that one way or another they will re-appear soon.

What is the reason the state is so reluctant to give them up? Public outcry if they do end up with the RF perhaps? And is it known what jewels it would entail?



That is what i fear also that when they are given back to the Prince of Naples and his sisters that they will be auctioned.

Perhaps there could be a compromise that the will be put on display somewhere.
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That is what i fear also that when they are given back to the Prince of Naples and his sisters that they will be auctioned.

Perhaps there could be a compromise that the will be put on display somewhere.

To be fair, Prince Vittorio Emanuele has not auctioned "his" jewels. He still owns a fabulous collection. I am not sure what is still left from what his three sisters inherited or received.
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To be fair, Prince Vittorio Emanuele has not auctioned "his" jewels. He still owns a fabulous collection. I am not sure what is still left from what his three sisters inherited or received.


Very true. Prince Vittorio Emanuele is the only one who kept the jewels. His sisters either did not accept the inheritance or sold them out at auction.
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