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Old 03-28-2010, 04:44 AM
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Queen Igrid had 10 grandchildren,5 by Anne-Marie (Greek), 3 by Benedikte (German), and 2 by Margrethe,
Frederik got the beautiful ruby set
what did the other 9 grandchildren receive ??
Joachim - Pavlos,Alexia,Nikolaos,Theodora,Philippos - Gustav,Alexasndra,Nathalie?????????????????
For example Alexia got a big diamond and ruby brooch which Queen Ingrid often used togetehr twith the ruby Parure but it was no part of it.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:34 AM
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This tiara was a gift of King Frederik IX to his wife?

http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/22...600x600Q85.jpg
Is this the tiara that was given to Marie.
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Is this the tiara that was given to Marie.
No, it is the convertible floral tiara often worn by the Queen.
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:08 AM
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I love the Floral Aigrette.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:04 AM
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No, it is the convertible floral tiara often worn by the Queen.
Arw you sure? It looks a lot more chunky that Queen Margethe's Floral Aigrette.
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I'm 110% sure
This is how it looked when worn on a frame in a traditional tiara setting. Queen Ingrid only ever wore it like this.
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Thank you. Now I know the difference I have to admit that my preference for style goes to Margethe, as exemplified by the way she wore it to Frederik and Mary's wedding. Utterly fabulous and envy inspiring.
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Not a problem :)

Personally, I much prefer the the way it was worn by Queen Ingrid. Queen Margrethe wore it like this during the first half of her reign, but later adapted it to it's current form.

I hope the Crown Princess chooses to wear it (pressuming it's left to the crown which imo, it should be) in it's original setting.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:19 AM
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Madame Royale, I'd also like to see the future Queen Mary wearing the tiara in it's big version, but why shall Margrethe II leave it to the Crown? This was personal gift/bequeath (can't remember) to the late Queen Ingrid and Denmark has little to do with it. If you don't want the floral tiara to be the personal property of either Frederik or Mary, then the family foundation seems to be an option.

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I think it should be left to the crown (meaning the family foundation for the use of the Queen, whether they be regnant or consort) because it's an extraordinarily versatile piece.

I can't imagine the tiara would be bequethed, personally, to Mary from Margrethe. That would be quite the substantial gift. Whereas if it is made part of the family foundation, it's ownership is henceforth secured for the use of any reigning consort or monarch.
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Well Madame, lets distinguish Crown property from property of the family foundation.
In terms of Danish royal jewel Crown property are the Rosenborg diamonds and the emerald parure. As you might know these can't leave the Kingdom and hence are worn only inside Denmark.
Examples for Foundation jewels are the pearl parure and the Baden palmette tiara.

Assuming that someday the worst happens and the monarchy in Denmark is abolished, the diamond set and the ememralds will continue being property of the Danish state, but no royal will use them. Whereas the jewels in the FF will still be used by the family.

From your post, however, I understand that we have the same opinion - the floral tiara should be left to the FF for the use of future Queens regnant or consort.

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The Baden palmette tiara is not part of the foundation. it was private property of Queen Ingrid and now from Queen Margrethe.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:25 PM
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Thanks for the correction, Stefan! The rest is correct, isn't it?

Is there a list of jewel that are in the family's foundation?

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Are there any pictures of the palmette tiara being worn by anybody else than Margrethe II? Also it was in possession of Queen Ingrid she never seems to have worn it.
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Are there any pictures of the palmette tiara being worn by anybody else than Margrethe II? Also it was in possession of Queen Ingrid she never seems to have worn it.
There is a photo of Grand Duchess Luise of Baden wearing it. Queen Ingrid never wore it in public.
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Thank you Stefan. I tried to google for it, but it didn't come up. Do you have a link?
The RJB now has a nice banner of Queen Ingrid with the 5 different tiaras: the floral aigrette, emerald parure, pearl parure, ruby parure and the Khedive of Egypt tiara - a truely majestic royal lady!
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Are there any pictures of the palmette tiara being worn by anybody else than Margrethe II? Also it was in possession of Queen Ingrid she never seems to have worn it.
Here's a photo of Princess Benedikte wearing the tiara - benedikterichardkronbergparty2 pictures from hobbies & interests photos on webshots

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Thank you Stefan. I tried to google for it, but it didn't come up. Do you have a link?
No sorry don't have it. I have seen it but not saved on my PC. I remember now Princess Alexandra zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg wore the tiara for the Gala at the Royal Theater at the occasion of Queen margrethe's 60th birthday in 2000. Have also no photo from this occasion but some time ago it was posted on the Royal Jewels MB.
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Not to stray off topic too much, but I for one was very surprised that the diamond and sapphire brooch which first came to Denmark with Alexandrine of Mecklenberg-Schwerin is now in the possession of Princess Marie.

That brooch is the perfect example of something that should have been made part of the Family Foundation, imo.

Dividing up the personal jewellery at the Queen's disposal is not a particularly wise thing to do, I don't think. I'd suggest that they acquire some pearls or something (for Marie) but resist the temptation to pass out historical pieces that deserve to remain within the immediate inheriting line.

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From your post, however, I understand that we have the same opinion - the floral tiara should be left to the FF for the use of future Queens regnant or consort.
Precisely.
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I definately agree that each royal house needs to take steps to ensure that the "core" of each family's collection of jewels is not handed out outside the main line. Each family can decide whether they need a foundation to achieve that, or will each monarch be disciplined enough to manage without a foundation.
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