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Another beautiful piece, but I think I am correct in saying that the Kinsky tiara comes from Princess Marie's family and therefore is not a Liechtenstein piece in the truest sense of the word.
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Don't know about the trust,but it seems that the tiara indeed belonged to the Kinsky family...Don't know if it was a loan or the property of Princess Marie,but here is a picture of Princess Mathilde Kinsky von Wchinitz und Tettau,born Baroness von dem Bussche-Haddenhausen wearing this tiara:
The reason why I asked if it was a loan or the property of Marie herself is that Mathilde was Marie's aunt by marriage and was the wife of the Prince Kinsky...and Marie is just one of 14 male-line nephews and nieces Prince Kinsky had,not to mention that he had 6 children of his own...
Mathilde is also first cousin of Gosta von Amsberg,mother of Prince Claus of the Netherlands,which makes the late Prince Ulrich Kinsky being second cousin to Prince Claus...In addition to that,his son,present Fürst Karl Kinsky who lives in Argentina is third cousin to Willem,Prince of Orange and future King of the Netherlnads who married an Argentinian lady Maxima...
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What a wonderful and imposing piece,its a shame its rarely taken out!
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01-24-2013, 01:31 PM
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That's seems taller than the average fringe tiara, unless my eyes are deceiving me. I'm not too much a fan of fringes, since they remind me of picket fences albeit jeweled ones! But it is indeed breathtaking.
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That's seems taller than the average fringe tiara, unless my eyes are deceiving me. I'm not too much a fan of fringes, since they remind me of picket fences albeit jeweled ones! But it is indeed breathtaking.
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Your eyes are perfectly good: that is a whopper of a fringe  ! I just wish that there were more pics of the different ladies wearing it over the generations. If only I could have a sneak peek into some of ther personal photo albums   .
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01-30-2013, 07:47 PM
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Its certainly one of the grandest pieces in the Princely Family jewel chest and I have seen Hereditary Princess Sophie wearing it at royal events.
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I like this tiara. Lovely and elegant like you say IloveCP. I love to have a family wedding tiara. Nice custom.
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Luxarazzi's currently holding The Liechtenstein Tiara Championship and one of the tiaras in the race is "Princess Marie's Wedding Gift Tiara" and I suppose it was a wedding present to the current Princess. The picture they've given shows a necklace (a rivière or a simple hoop necklace) that probably converts into a small tiara, but I've not seen something like that worn by the current Princess or other family members. The only tiara of similar size I know of in the Princely collection is the one Princess Marie wore at her pre-wedding, but its design looks slightly different and it has a small spike in the center.
Can someone provide more info on the so-called "Princess Marie's Wedding Gift Tiara" and maybe even better pictures?
Link to the website: Luxarazzi: The Liechtenstein Tiara Championship
Thanks in advance!
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Luxarazzi's currently holding The Liechtenstein Tiara Championship and one of the tiaras in the race is "Princess Marie's Wedding Gift Tiara" and I suppose it was a wedding present to the current Princess. The picture they've given shows a necklace (a rivière or a simple hoop necklace) that probably converts into a small tiara, but I've not seen something like that worn by the current Princess or other family members. The only tiara of similar size I know of in the Princely collection is the one Princess Marie wore at her pre-wedding, but its design looks slightly different and it has a small spike in the center.
Can someone provide more info on the so-called "Princess Marie's Wedding Gift Tiara" and maybe even better pictures?
Link to the website: Luxarazzi: The Liechtenstein Tiara Championship
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Do you have a good pic of Princess Marie at her pre-Wedding Gala? I have a small pic from a Gala held in the Inner Court of the Castle before the Wedding and it looks like she is wearing a diamond bandeau.
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Any pic of that gala would be great.
I have never seen it.
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Do you have a good pic of Princess Marie at her pre-Wedding Gala? I have a small pic from a Gala held in the Inner Court of the Castle before the Wedding and it looks like she is wearing a diamond bandeau.
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https://postimg.org/image/8xk9wq1nt/
I don't know if this pic is from the pre-wedding, and it doesn't show the tiara clearly. But it's definitely neither the fringe nor the Kinsky tiara.
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08-16-2016, 05:20 PM
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I think it's the same tiara and, judging by the hairstyle, the same event as in the pic I posted. Who knows where the name 'wedding gift tiara' comes from? Maybe someone saw it on the pre-wedding pic and assumed that it must have been a wedding gift? There might be another story behind it, but that's hard to say.
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08-16-2016, 07:19 PM
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This is the same event and tiara that I have in my files. My picture, although bigger and in colour, is a blurry scan and doesn't show much details, so posting it wouldn't give us more clues about design.
You can see in the pictures that Tilia C. and Stefan posted the little spike in the center of the tiara, which is missing in the photo of Luxarazzi of the jewel as necklace (assuming it's the same one).
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08-17-2016, 04:05 PM
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Luxarazzi have added a much appreciated post on the so-called "Princess Marie's Wedding Gift Tiara". Like us, they also speculate that this necklace was worn by Fürstin Marie at her own pre-wedding gala in 1967.
Luxarazzi: Luxarazzi 101: Princess Marie's Wedding Gift Tiara
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08-17-2016, 05:15 PM
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Thanks for posting this link, Prince or Preslav. And thanks to Luxarazzi for posting these details!
So we are probably looking for a sapphire necklace/bandeau. After looking at the screenshot of the wedding present necklace, I'm not certain if there is a pointy thing in the centre or not. It's difficult to see due to the perspective, but I wouldn't rule out that it might be the same jewel.
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08-17-2016, 09:49 PM
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Yes, the quality and the angle of the photo don't really show much detail on the necklace, but untill Luxarazzi's discovery we didn't know anything about the bandeau, so it's better than nothing :)
On another note, have you noticed that most of the coloured stones in the Princely collection are sapphires? Off the top of me head, there's the impressive demi-parure from Princess Gina, this necklace/bandeau and the sapphire jewels worn by the Hereditary Princess (modern earrings and antique necklace) . I can't think of any rubies, emeralds, etc.
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