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Are you sure about that being Princess Desiree? I admit that I can’t identify Fürstin Manni 100%, but the lady doesn’t look like Princess Desiree to me. Also Princess Desiree’s tiara has a more pronounced tip in the centre, while this tiara has such a round outline.
It seems that the floral tiara is worn in a large version (bandeau with diamond flowers) and a small version of only the floral elements:
http://s1.postimg.org/ugodmjs3z/SWS_floral_tiara.jpg
The ladies are:
1 Fürstin Marianne (Manni) at her daughter Theresa’s pre-wedding
2 Countess Gabriela von Schönborn-Wiesentheid
3 Princess Elisabeth
4 Princess Theresa
5 Baroness Isabelle von Senden (daughter of Princess Elisabeth)
And then there is another mystery tiara, worn by Sunnyi Melles on her wedding to Prince Peter
http://s27.postimg.org/uvd2f3p83/Sunnyi_Melles.jpg
Or do you think it is the same as worn by Manni at Benediktes wedding?
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08-14-2014, 01:57 PM
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Marc and TILLA , very interesting thread to me who is a but confused with the german and austrian tiaras....
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08-14-2014, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilia C.
Are you sure about that being Princess Desiree? I admit that I can’t identify Fürstin Manni 100%, but the lady doesn’t look like Princess Desiree to me. Also Princess Desiree’s tiara has a more pronounced tip in the centre, while this tiara has such a round outline.
It seems that the floral tiara is worn in a large version (bandeau with diamond flowers) and a small version of only the floral elements:
http://s1.postimg.org/ugodmjs3z/SWS_floral_tiara.jpg
The ladies are:
1 Fürstin Marianne (Manni) at her daughter Theresa’s pre-wedding
2 Countess Gabriela von Schönborn-Wiesentheid
3 Princess Elisabeth
4 Princess Theresa
5 Baroness Isabelle von Senden (daughter of Princess Elisabeth)
And then there is another mystery tiara, worn by Sunnyi Melles on her wedding to Prince Peter
http://s27.postimg.org/uvd2f3p83/Sunnyi_Melles.jpg
Or do you think it is the same as worn by Manni at Benediktes wedding?
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I don't think that the woman is Desiree,I just thought that it looks a bit like her maybe because of the tiara,that's why i asked if you maybe know who is she? :-/
That is definitely the tiara Marianne wore for Benedikte's wedding.Spot on :)
And thank you for great pictures.Some of them I have never seen :-)
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08-14-2014, 04:30 PM
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Marc and TILLA , very interesting thread to me who is a but confused with the german and austrian tiaras....
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We are trying to make it interesting 
We are also confused about many things and come here to share opinions,thoughts,to discuss and maybe solve something
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08-14-2014, 05:08 PM
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I don't think that the woman is Desiree,I just thought that it looks a bit like her maybe because of the tiara,that's why i asked if you maybe know who is she? :-/
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It is not Désirée but the ladie in the pic resembles her a lot. It is also not Fürstin Manni.
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08-14-2014, 09:52 PM
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I believe that she is Furstin Marie zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich. Her maiden surname is Fouche d'Otrants.
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08-15-2014, 05:46 AM
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I believe that she is Furstin Marie zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich. Her maiden surname is Fouche d'Otrants.
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You could be right! As I was googleing away yesterday to find out who the lady is (she's definitely not princess Desirée) I found a lady in the wedding picture of Princess Benedikte of Denmark and Prince Rickard of Berleburg that resembled her but was to old for it to possibly be her. The lady I found was Countess Birgitta Fouché married to Prince Rickards uncle Count Louis Fouché and the mother of said Marie zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich.
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08-15-2014, 07:34 AM
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 Thank you all for the identification of this lady! I see now how unlike Fürstin Manni the lady looks.
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08-15-2014, 08:06 AM
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I believe that she is Furstin Marie zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich. Her maiden surname is Fouche d'Otrants.
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And I believe that she was wearing the same tiara as was Princess Christina zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich,nee Countess Douglas at her wedding:
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...a/P1050739.jpg
Photo is from Stefan's blog :)
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08-15-2014, 08:32 AM
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Looks like. it. Have made a closeup from one of my pics to compare. 
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08-15-2014, 09:49 AM
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I agree, it seems to be the same jewel. The centre looks like it could be worn as a brooch as well.
Here is a picture of Cynthia zu Solms-Hohensolms-Lich & Count Richard von Waldburg zu Woflegg und Waldsee. I don’t know if the tiara is a Solms or a Waldburg jewel.
http://s27.postimg.org/3xabo2l3n/Cynthia_Solms.jpg
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08-29-2014, 05:09 AM
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08-31-2014, 09:56 PM
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I really cant evven imagine what it is like to make a hotel/car/air/restauraunt reservation " Let me spell it for you... z.u. S.o.l.m.s.-H.o.h.e.n.s.o.l.m.s.-L.i.c.h. " Good luck with that at JFK airport.
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09-01-2014, 05:00 AM
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Interesting portrait! it looks vaguely similar to the tiara in this photo. Two different pieces or artistic licence?
http://s22.postimg.org/e8ijs8gch/kaiserin_Hermine.jpg
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09-01-2014, 05:34 AM
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I don't think it's the same tiara...To me,this,on her head,looks more like a bracelet used as a head band or tiara...
Hermine was rich also in her own right,because of her Reuss inheritance and because of her first husband,so I assume she had many different jewels at her disposal...and due to fall of the Empire,she had less formal occasions to show them off...
She was so well off that she even gifted her inherited Burgk Castle to her sister Princess Ida zu Stoberg-Rossla...
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09-01-2014, 05:40 AM
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I really cant evven imagine what it is like to make a hotel/car/air/restauraunt reservation " Let me spell it for you... z.u. S.o.l.m.s.-H.o.h.e.n.s.o.l.m.s.-L.i.c.h. " Good luck with that at JFK airport.
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Try:
von Wrbna-Kaunitz-Rietberg-Questenberg und Freudenthal
or
zu Salm-Reifferscheidt-Krautheim und Dyck
or more famous
zu Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg
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09-12-2014, 06:36 AM
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Princess Tatjana von Hessen(Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berrleburg):
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Great, that must be the emerald tiara, which can also be worn with pearls. The Princess wore the pearl-version at the wedding of her brother with Princess Benedikte of Denmark. I wonder what happened to this tiara. It is so rare to see the Hesse Princesses with their tiaras, and they use their ears-of-wheat tiara as wedding tiara.
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09-17-2014, 07:29 AM
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Yes,such a shame we don't see Hessen princesses use their tiaras anymore,except for the weddings :-(
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