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03-16-2016, 03:43 AM
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This is such a lovely addition to the collection - it has very beautiful timeless and classic design. One of my favorite "newcomers".
I'd like to hear more about the history of this necklace/ tiara.
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03-16-2016, 03:45 AM
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I love the tiara
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03-16-2016, 05:25 AM
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for me it looks more like moonstones.
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03-16-2016, 06:18 AM
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Very beautiful new tiara! In my eyes it looks as an antique tiara, not any modern piece. I liked it very much as necklace too. Beautiful workmanship, delicate piece. So much prettier than her wedding tiara.
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03-16-2016, 08:28 AM
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It's so great to see a new tiara in Mary, it's really a beautiful piece. Agree it looks better as a tiara than a necklace, it looks more "consistent" than I thought it would be, if you know what I mean. I think the thin chain on the necklace version spoils it quite a bit.
I agree with those who think this is a better tiara than her wedding one. Even while I might be one of the very few that actually likes that tiara, it's really underwhelming as a Crown Princess' wedding tiara, esp if that one princess has so few tiaras to her dispossal. As nice as I think it is, it gives too much an impression of "let's make a tiara from this pretty necklace". This one has a lot more substance, IMO.
Now what I would love to see is this tiara matched with her wedding tiara as a necklace. I always prefered the necklace form of the other tiara and I have the impression both designs would look great together with some small, similar designed diamond earrings.
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03-16-2016, 01:59 PM
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It's great to finally see this jewel worn as tiara. Right when I saw the necklace for the first time I was sure that it was convertible. The design virtually screamed tiara. I only feared that it might have been a loan. Well, it hasn't!
It looks really beautiful as a tiara and I'm among those who prefer the tiara version. As for the origin of this jewel, well possibly might never know. It hasn't been seen in the family before, and nobody so far found it in a auction catalog. My guess is, that it was bought privately or from a discreet jeweler, pretty much like the wedding tiara.
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03-16-2016, 02:28 PM
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So glad that CP Mary now has a "new" tiara in her rotation. This one is much more substantial than her wedding tiara. And I personally think that it looks better as a tiara.
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03-16-2016, 03:54 PM
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03-16-2016, 09:06 PM
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Well...after 11 years of marriage (2015) and 4 children...Crown Princess Mary was due a more substantial diamond tiara in my opinion! I agree with others that her wedding tiara was not a fitting size for a Crown Princess and future Queen...especially when her new sister-in-law wears a much larger diamond floral tiara (even though it is a loan and CP Mary has use of the ruby & diamond parure).
But here's what I think. I think that the Queen was very careful to buy a small diamond tiara at the onset because she was waiting to see how the marriage of the Crown Prince would progress. Remember that at the time of the Crown Princely engagement and wedding, Prince Joachim and Princess Alexandra's marriage was over and had been in trouble for years. They were married for less than 10 years. The Queen would have known at the time, that the family heirloom - the Alexandrine tiara (which was a wedding gift and owned by Alexandra) - would be "lost" to the royal family. So Mary was brought a small tiara and Marie was given a loan.
Now that the crown princely marriage has successfully passed the 10 year mark, maybe the Queen? (I assume) felt that the time was right for a more substantial diamond tiara for CP Mary. Maybe a reward also for Mary's great success as a wife, mother and crown princess.
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03-17-2016, 01:02 AM
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I like the tiara...probably would prefer not to see so much of the upward frame. I wonder why, if it was a gift from QM, she would not have given her a gift/loan of one with more historical significance as per Marie even though Denmark does not have that many left to chose from and of course the ruby is especially significant. Perhaps I'm just thinking it would be nice to see Marie get as much use of her other tiara as Mary does with her wedding one.
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03-17-2016, 07:02 AM
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I am on team necklace I fear. When she wore it first I hoped we would see it as a tiara, but it isn't working for me. I do not like the base, the sides seem not long enough and the delicate setting gets lost in the tiara. The stones don't seem to be of high quality either and are rather small.
Having that said, I like it a whole lot better than her wedding tiara and it is great she added another tiara to the collection, esp. with 2 daughters and probably two daughters-in-law in the distant future. Perhaps I will like it better when the princess puts the tiara a bit more upright.
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03-17-2016, 09:06 AM
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I would like to know the history of this new tiara,whereabouts etc.?
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03-17-2016, 09:25 AM
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Don't worry Marengo I am on team necklace as well, I feel it doesn't have as much 'wow factor' as a tiara.
As to provenance could it possibly be a gift from Henrik, an unseen piece from his mother?
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03-17-2016, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc23
I would like to know the history of this new tiara,whereabouts etc.?
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Don't we all?  So far, the history of this jewels has been as carefully hidden as that of the wedding tiara. I assume that the RF doesn't want any information out in the public. So they buy their jewels discreetly, not from public auctions. And they probably chose a tiara from a low profile family, so that no pictures can be found to give it's provenance away. That way they make sure that the tiara is only associated with Mary, without detracting information about previous owners.
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Originally Posted by Amy
Don't worry Marengo I am on team necklace as well, I feel it doesn't have as much 'wow factor' as a tiara.
As to provenance could it possibly be a gift from Henrik, an unseen piece from his mother?
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It is very, very unlikely that Prince Henrik's mother had a tiara. His family didn't live a high profile lifestyle, and the late Countess borrowed Queen Margrethe's floral tiara (the one that's now with Marie) for the silver wedding gala. At the wedding in 1962 she wore an unknown tiara, but not this one.
Also I find it highly unlikely that the DRF would let unused tiaras just gather dust in the vaults for 15 years. (Henrik's mother died in 2001 afaik) They just don't have that many tiaras to do that.
My guess is, that the necklace tiara is a new acquisition without a family connection. And that's a very good idea, imo. The plan might be to have some tiaras ready for Isabella, Josefine or Vincent's future wife. Something without a long family history, so there won't be the loss of a historic family jewels when they move down the side line of the family. And yet there will be a family connection, because CP Mary has already worn it. And of course it's just nice for Mary to have a more varied choice of tiaras.
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03-17-2016, 11:20 AM
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I like Mary's wedding tiara, especially when she augments it with pearls. Unfortunately, it was not shown to its best advantage on her wedding day, due to the placement of the veil. Some of the larger tiaras must be tricky to wear and keep in place. No doubt there's some discreet hairdressing secrets that help. Princess Diana said that the Cambridge tiara gave her a headache because of its weight.
There's a state visit from Mexico coming up next month, so maybe we'll see the new tiara again.
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03-17-2016, 01:03 PM
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The wedding tiara might be small, but I like it anyways. To me it looks very nice, and it must be comfortable to wear. And let's not forget that at the time it was bought, it was already clear that she'd have the gorgeous grand ruby parure, which is worthy of a Queen. It's no shame to have a small tiara as a secondary piece, imho.
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03-17-2016, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tilia C.
The wedding tiara might be small, but I like it anyways. To me it looks very nice, and it must be comfortable to wear. And let's not forget that at the time it was bought, it was already clear that she'd have the gorgeous grand ruby parure, which is worthy of a Queen. It's no shame to have a small tiara as a secondary piece, imho.
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Thinking the same :)
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03-17-2016, 02:53 PM
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03-17-2016, 03:02 PM
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As to why Pss Marie got "the bigger tiara" from start: Perhaps CPss Mary was given the choice between her now wedding tiara and the floral tiara now worn by Pss Marie?
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