Prince Andrew (1882-1944) and Alice, Princess Andrew Of Greece (1885-1969)

[rebbevb]

I just realized that Princess Alice's tiara that is the first pic in post 19 was actually her wedding necklace

[Martha]

I have a question, princess alice had some diseases. How did she met Prince Andrew? was princess alice´s marriage a familiar decision?

[EmpressRouge]

Originally Posted by Martha

I have a question, princess alice had some diseases. How did she met Prince Andrew? was princess alice´s marriage a familiar decision?

She suffered from congenital deafness. She met Prince Andrew at her great-uncle, Edward VII's coronation. The event was postponed for a few weeks because of Edward's sudden illness, thus giving Andrew and Alice more time to get to know each other. It was a love match.

[tan_berry]

A beautiful woman. Her husband was Prince of Greece and Denmark and belonged to the Schlesswieg-Holstein House. It seems most of the kings of eastern Europe belonged to german royal families.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by tan_berry

It seems most of the kings of eastern Europe belonged to german royal families.

Yes, a sort of dynastic colonisation:

Albania: for a short time Wied (German) then Zogu (native)
Bulgaria: for a short time Batternberg [Hesse] followed by Saxe-Coburg & Gotha (both German)
Greece: S-H-S-G (Danish)
Montenegro: Petrovich-Njegos (native)
Romania: Hohenzollern (-Sigmaringen) (German)
Serbia: Obrenovic and Karageorgevic (both native)

[Bella]

I always thought Princess Alice was one of the most beautiful royal women. She reminds me in a sense, when she was younger, of the young Queen Alexandra - another royal beauty.

[milla Ca]

November 24

Prince Charles' pride for grandmother who sheltered Jews

The Prince of Wales has told "Kindertransport" refugees how "incredibly proud" he felt of his grandmother for sheltering Jewish refugees when the Second World War broke out.

Prince Charles' pride for grandmother who sheltered Jews - Telegraph
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[CarolinaLandgrave]

As well he should!

[Emeralds and Opals]

Prince Charles recalls grandmother's heroism - Telegraph


"Princess Alice of Greece(Born Princess of Battenburg-now Mountbatten)."

[Vasillisos Markos]

Alice had a strong religious bent, like her aunts, Alexandra of Russia and Grand Duchess Elizabeth, known to the family as Ella, both of whom were sisters of Alice's mother, Victoria of Hesse and later known as Victoria Battenberg, then Milford-Haven when all Germanic names were anglicized by the British Royals. I believe the death of Ella and her life of service as a nun had a strong influence on Alice.

Alice also worked tirelessly through the First Balkan War and later endured hardships with her husband's people during World War II. A fascinating woman, born in Windsor Castle and later interred there until her remains were moved and re-buried in Jerusalem.

[Odette]

Princess Alice was a unique lady.
If you have not read Vickers' book " Alice" please do so. He gives a perfect picture of her and her life and trials from Germany all the way back to London.

[Vasillisos Markos]

I have read the book and lent a copy to Greek friends who were fascinated by Alice's life and how little they knew about her. Of course, these friends were born in Egypt and returned to Greece for the first time in two generations in 1967 so I guess they can be forgiven.

[BELTRANEJA]

I think she was not a schizophrenic woman .I read that she claimed to have received divine messages and apparitions, .The Mother Teresa of Calcuta received a message divine and therefore she became a nun and began her humanitarian work, she was not schizophrenic .... This happens to many missionaries, monks, nuns and even pontiffs .. I think that Princess Alice would not be schizophrenic, but for her family it resulted be very shocking because they did not believed in these apparitions and divine messages and they saw her as a madwoman.
I think that Princess Alice found in the Kings of Greece(pavlo and Federika) and in the Orthodox Church, understanding .I think that the Kings of Greece and the Orthodox Church did not saw to her as a schizophrenic, they believed her.
Picture , it is the baptize of Princess Alexia

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/440...naciopablo.jpg
and in funeral of King Pavlo
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/617...lkingpavlo.jpg

[Vasillisos Markos]

Beltraneja,

Thank you for posting the photographs of Princess Andrew. I do not think she was a paranoid schizophrenic either, but she definitely suffered from some mental malady which kept her sidelined through the period of time when her four daughters married. Because of the illness, Alice missed the weddings.

Alice probably suffered a nervous breakdown and in those days, people of her social standing were taken to sanatoriums where they were kept safe but out of the public eye.

[BELTRANEJA]

It is posible, she could have been a nervous breakdown.
I found thisd picture:
They are:
Prince Nikolaos and her wife, Grand Duchess of Russian , Helen, Prince Andrews and Princess Alice of Battenberg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6849/principenikolaosconlagr.jpg

[Vasillisos Markos]

Wonderful photograph, thank you! Didn't Queen Frederika create tension in the family by keeping Helen's last illness from Alice, thereby causing Alice to miss the opportunity to pay a last visit to her sister-in-law? I don't think Alice ever forgave QF and the rest of the family felt so strongly about it that Frederika was forced to later apologize to Alice.

[DuedePhiladelphia]

Originally Posted by ElisaR

I have this one, at the Queen's coronation.

Not very good. :(

I love that pic of the princess- didnt her husband move to Monte Carlo later in life?

[Warren]

Yes, Prince Andrew did enjoy gambling at the casino...

[Vasillisos Markos]

Prince Andrew, or Andrea, was very poor at the time of his death, both in money and health. He died before the war ended on December 3, 1944, in his room at the Metropole in Monte Carlo. While Alice remained in Greece during the war, Andrea had largely been stuck in the south of France.

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Vasillisos Markos

Wonderful photograph, thank you! Didn't Queen Frederika create tension in the family by keeping Helen's last illness from Alice, thereby causing Alice to miss the opportunity to pay a last visit to her sister-in-law? I don't think Alice ever forgave QF and the rest of the family felt so strongly about it that Frederika was forced to later apologize to Alice.

Princesses Alice & Helen were the only two left in Athens during the war and the German occupation.
The two were never friendly or even compatible. Helen believed she was above Alice and because of her (Alice's) deafness they did not socialize.
There are many anectodes of how, Helen was almost mean towards Alice.
I wonder if the issue with Q Frederika actually existed or was something said against her as was the custom to blame her for just about everything.