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02-10-2021, 03:56 PM
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I have read very much about civil war of Greece, and I read this, that you say about the ELAS.
I agree with you Stef, I read it.
In Greece the problem comes from that civil war, the communists were outlawed in Greece in 1948, for their collaboration with the guerrillas, and with Stalin trying to create a communist state in the Balkans.
I have read in an article that the communist party(KKE) had its followers in northern Greece, but the cruel actuations of the guerrillas against the population made party communist lose that support. After the war, they blamed the USA, Great Britain and Queen Frederica for their outlawing, because Queen Frederica became a highly esteemed person in Macedonia and Epirus (it was communist territory ). That war turned Queen Frederica into an anti-communist symbol and she was very proud of it (being anti-communist). Then the communists campaign against her began in Greece, through a left-wing political formation, and abroad, seeking to discredit her .
I have traveled a lot to Greece, and I recognize that in the Greek Republic, there is more appreciation for the Communists, their speech is more liked by the people, and they are more charismatic. And I also recognize that history has been distorted, today the monarchy in Greece is not studied, even the statues of the kings, some are broken, others painted, I remember the bust of Queen Olga it is in front of a hospital, painted red, horrible ... with the Nazi cross.
I believe that Queen Federica must be studied in a historical context that is Greek, not all countries can understand it.
And then you think , in 1974 the communist party was legalized, before the referendum .. And Greece a Republic, 100% communist party went against Queen Frederica.
I live in Spain, and I see many similarities, for example, in Spain the very left-wing ideals, favorable to communist ideals, are always attacking the monarchy, its members, its newspapers attack in an obsessive way,
It is very sad, to reject your history, to attack the people who were part of that history, because I think that today Greece is a member country of the European Union, fully integrated into Europe, and this was due, to not being a communist country , if Greece had It was after the civil war, I see Greece that would have had a very bad time, like Romania, and that today it would not be in the European Union or in the position that it is. I believe that the monarchy was very beneficial for Greece, but in the republic this is neither studied nor appreciated
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02-10-2021, 07:51 PM
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 And the most unjust thing about this story is that in 1964 who proposed to G. Papandreou to legalize the communist party, it was King Constantine , and G.Papandreou said NO to legalization.
.....And the communists attacked to the monarchy supported by the same politicians who had rejected the legalization of the communist party in 1964.
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02-11-2021, 02:40 PM
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The duchess of Brunswick lived until December 1980 so its quite possible.
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03-08-2021, 10:43 AM
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On 7 March Greece celebrates 73 years since the annexation of the Dodecanese Islands to the Kingdom of Greece. Rare photos from the visit of King Pavlos and Queen Freideriki to Rhodes island on 7 March 1957 attending the 9th celebrations of the official annexation of the islands.
https://www.lifo.gr/blogs/retronaut/...-sti-rodo-1957
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03-18-2021, 12:10 PM
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King Pavlos and Queen Freideriki welcome Princess Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinburgh in Greece at the start of their week-long visit to the Athens back 1950
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04-25-2021, 10:58 AM
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1960 King Pavlos and Queen Freideriki on the set of the legendary film "The Guns of Navarone" The Queen is talking to Gregory Peck and next to him is David Niven. On the right edge of the photo is Irini Pappas.
https://scontent.fath3-4.fna.fbcdn.n...8d&oe=60A9A6C3
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04-25-2021, 11:45 AM
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Wonderful family photo and the way Princess Victoria Louise is looking at the Infanta Elena.
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04-29-2021, 10:56 AM
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14 June1961, Jackie Kennedy was received by the Royal Family at the Tatoi Palace.
and again 1963
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04-29-2021, 12:50 PM
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What a lot of Events Queen Sofia attend ...
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04-29-2021, 01:30 PM
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What a lot of Events Queen Sofia attend ...
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I didn't see Sofia in the video's with Jackie Kennedy but I did notice Princess Irene in the background
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04-29-2021, 04:16 PM
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Pavlos was a very handsome and striking man. Everytime I see him, I have that thought.
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05-09-2021, 04:26 PM
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Princess Frederika of Hanover (later Queen of Greece) and her older brother Prince Georg Wilhelm of Hanover, 1925.
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07-27-2021, 06:58 PM
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07-29-2021, 11:02 PM
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Greek royals
Hello there,, my name Ronald Biver Iam also intersted in the Greek Royal Family all the way back through Russia, Germany,Denmark & England ( House of Hanover) through historical books AND DVD about the GREEK royals, keep in touch!!
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07-30-2021, 06:17 AM
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King Pavlos knowing he suffered from cancer should have prepared Constantin better !
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07-30-2021, 06:44 AM
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King Pavlos knowing he suffered from cancer should have prepared Constantin better !
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Perhaps it all happened to quickly and there wasn't enough time especially if the king was ill.
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