King Paul I (1901-1964) and Queen Frederika (1917-1981)

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by Maura724

I found this photo tonight of Sophie and Frederica just after Sophie's birth. I'd never seen it before; it's sweet.

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It is very nice. How did you come across it?

[Nikolopoulus]

yes, I saw that picture, there are some people on Facebook who have a personal albums of Royales houses very nice, http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/x...g?t=1292438623 In picture is Queen Federika with Princess Sofia and Prince Constantine

[Maura724]

Vasillisos, I just discovered on Facebook that there was a group with a huge album of Greek royal pictures - there's a ton from several different eras.

Nikolopoulus - that's cute! I love baby pictures.

[Vasillisos Markos]

Maura,

Thanks for the information. Someday I will have to create a Facebook profile . . . .

[Aussieprincess]

Hi all, not sure if you are aware, but QF's mother, Duchess Viktoria Luise of Brauschweig's autobigraphy, titled, "The Kaiser's Daughter, Memories of HRH Viktoria Luise of Prussia," include several pictures of QF, and all her family,with plenty of information.
The front cover features a little Viktoria Luise, sitting on her Kaiser Wilhelm II's lap. In it,VL mentions that the last thing he saw, before he went blind, was a photograph of QF holding a little Sofia.
English version of autobiography, which I have, is edited by Robert Vacha, and was printed in 1972, eight years before the death of VL, and 9 before QF herself.

[Vasillisos Markos]

My dear Aussieprincess,

I am reading King, Kaiser, Tsar and thorougly enjoying the book. There is so much that I am learning about the three men, King George V of England, Kaiser Wilhelm II and Tsar Nicholas II, things which I had never read in other biographies. Another joy to the book is learning more about the people in their lives. I am hoping that there will be mention about Viktoria Luise and Frederika near the end of the book.

[EmpressRouge]

Actually, there was surprisingly good insight into Queen Frederika in "Alice, Princess Andrew of Greece" by Hugo Vickers about the Duke of Edinburgh's mother. It's brief, but it was evident that Princess Andrew was not a fan of Queen Frederika.
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[Vasillisos Markos]

My dear EmpressRouge,

I read the Vicker's biography of Princess Andrew and enjoyed it. You are correct -- although Princess Andrew and Princess Nicholas (Elena Vladimirovna who was the mother of Marina, Duchess of Kent) were not close, the two princesses were the only members of the Greek royal family to remain in the country during World War II. For some reason, Frederika kept Princess Andrew in the dark about Princess Nicholas's final illness until it was too late to see her before she died. This upset Pss Andrew greatly and she never quite forgave Frederika.

[CSENYC]

King, Kaiser, Tsar is an excellent book.

If King Paul I had lived longer- say, until the 1980s- would the Greek monarchy have been overthrown?

[NGalitzine]

As I understand it the relationship between Viktoria Luise and Frederica was a difficult one. Can anyone provide details on their problems?

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by CSENYC

King, Kaiser, Tsar is an excellent book.

If King Paul I had lived longer- say, until the 1980s- would the Greek monarchy have been overthrown?

My dear CSENYC,

It is hard to say, but Paul may have been able to hold on to the throne. I don't think he would have left as quickly as poor Constantine because Paul was more mature and older.

[victoria200122003]

I never see any pictures they take together after left Greece and why the queen did not live with her son in London. The king's 3rd&4rd&5rd children seems never take photo with their grandmother. Maybe the photo just not show in public or I dont find, anyone know more?

[MAfan]

Originally Posted by victoria200122003

The king's 3rd&4rd&5rd children seems never take photo with their grandmother.

Of course the King's two younger children, Princess Theodora and Prince Philippos, cannot have any pictures with Queen Frederika, since she died a few years before they were born.

[IRIS1983]

No this is not correct. The Queen Federika lived in India, in a house that is now owned by the princess Irene for this reason it is difficult to find pictures of the Queen Federica, except in summer when she traveled to Palma of Mallorca(Spain) for holidays with the Greek and Spanish royal family . The Kings of Greece and Princes, alexia, Paul and Nicholas, traveled to visit her in her house of India. The prince Nicholas in Vanity Fair of Spain said, he remembered when he travelled with his family, his parents and brothers to Indian , they played with their grandmother to pirates (He said be Sandokan), Nicholas said that his grandmother interpreted her paper of pirate and directly involved in the game. She traveled extensively to London and Spain where she spent long periods. When she died in 1981, in Madrid, she had just arrived from London to Madrid, the newspapers of spain said that she was living in london with the Kings of Greece because she had problems of health

Palma of Mallorca, Queen Federika with her grandchildren.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c-oC9m69B3...a+federika.jpg

Queen Federika with her mother, was 90th birthday of Princess Marie Louise of Prussian(I think), were the Kings and princes of Greece and Queen Sophia with Infanta Elena and Cristina

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ugWv021kSG...ea%C3%B1os.jpg

With Queen Sophia and Queen Anne Marie and Princes Paul, Felipe, Elena , Cristina, Alexia
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3DLrECphGc...n+federica.jpg

[victoria200122003]

thanks to your reply, it's so detail. Would you have more photo about the Queen

[IRIS1983]

Few photos exist of Queen Federica at this period, most pictures are of the Madrid airport when Queen Sofia was going to pick her up, she came from London

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p2zH5l1taZ...spa%C3%B1a.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EpKrOYs35G...en+barajas.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-89XhySWbXg...0/nietos10.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AuyTGzxuLW...eina+sofia.jpg

[An Ard Ri]

Its such a shame that Queen Federica did not live longer as she seems to have enjoyed a warm relationship with her grandchildren.

[wartenberg7]

Is it already known, when and where the documentary about King Paul ("No ordinary king") is coming out?!

[Nikolopoulus]

I saw the trailer, it was saying that it would be for 2013, however it certainly will be issued in 2014, because the next year will be met 50 th years of death of King Paul.

[Cory]

A documentary about the late King Paul I of the Hellenes will be presented to the public next year by the Greek Television :