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03-16-2009, 03:12 PM
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Yes, I've heard those stories too. She became really eccentric by the years. But I also believe, that she was unhappy, so it was her way to let her some of her frustrations out.
I didn't know, that she was afraid of sea traveling, and that was why she never returned to France again. Thanks for letting me know that!
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03-16-2009, 06:21 PM
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She was a simple, practical, Frenchwoman, thrust onto the world stage and then into a foreign country, where she never felt at home. In fact, when he husband was elected to the Swedish throne, she came once and returned to France until he became king, as she was disliked by her adoptive mother-in-law and the court and, so, she returned as Queen rather than as Crown Princess. She was a devoted wife and mother, although, she kept her distance from Sweden.
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I have recently been reading about Queen Desideria and I find her to be in interesting queen. Can someone please tell me why she went under the name of Countess of Gotland when giving parties in Paris?
I find her and Queen Kristina two of Europes most interesting queens. There must have been something in the Swedish water!
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I have recently been reading about Queen Desideria and I find her to be in interesting queen. Can someone please tell me why she went under the name of Countess of Gotland when giving parties in Paris?
I find her and Queen Kristina two of Europes most interesting queens. There must have been something in the Swedish water!
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The title Countess of Gotland was her official alias when she wished to remain incognito. She carried a passport signed by the Swedish King Carl XIII when she went back to France after her short visit to Sweden 1810-11.
In Paris she used her official title Crown Princess later Queen of Sweden. The official explanation for her taking residency in Paris were health reasons.
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When Desiree Bernadotte became a mother in 1799 she asked Napoleon to be godfather. Napoleon asked that the boy be called Oscar after Ossian. Ossian was the hero of the Macpherson epic. Desiree named her son Oscar.   
Napoleon I penned a romance novel titled Clisson et Eugenie.
Clisson et Eugenie may be based on Napoleon's relationship with Eugenie Desiree Clary.
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02-13-2014, 09:24 PM
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The title Countess of Gotland was her official alias when she wished to remain incognito. She carried a passport signed by the Swedish King Carl XIII when she went back to France after her short visit to Sweden 1810-11.
In Paris she used her official title Crown Princess later Queen of Sweden. The official explanation for her taking residency in Paris were health reasons.
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She hated Sweden. The Vasa Queen and Princess Albertine didn't like her much either. She wanted her husband to succeed at this new "job". She returned to France and did not return until she was queen. Remember, she was Eugenie Desiree Clary, daughter of a silk merchant, in Marsailles. She was a republican at heart. She was engaged to Napoleon at one time, but he moved on to richer waters, to the then Countess De Beauharnais, Josephine. Desiree married Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, who founded the present dynasty. He, too, was a republican. Funny where life takes you.
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Desirée never liked Sweden, no. She appearantly hated the cold winters and called the country "the land of the wolves". Desirée remained French in heart and never learned how to speak Swedish (then again, her husband hardly did either). You might be right also about her actually being a Republican, having grown up during the time of the French revolution. And even though she was allowed to remain a Catholic (her husband and her son had to convert to the Lutheran faith), she doesn't seem to have been as religious as her daughter-in-law Josephine, another queen who had been allowed to keep her Catholic faith.
I think I even read somewhere that Jean Baptiste Bernadotte had a tatoo saying "down with all kings"!
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Queen Desideria returned to Sweden to attend her son's wedding. She hoped to return to France once the ceremony was over. She was given a coronation ceremony.
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08-10-2019, 01:33 PM
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Popular historian Herman Lindqvist at his chronicle in Svensk Damtidning about queen Desideria
Some people are distinctive evening people, others are early risers. The same goes for royal families. King Carl XVI Gustaf is rarely really awake before ten o'clock in the morning, but all the better after ten o'clock in the evening.
The very first in the House of Bernadotte, Karl XIV Johan and Queen Désirée, were not good morning persons. Over the years, the king and queen met more and less frequently. They did not eat meals together. The Queen's morning rises became ever later in the day and gradually approached the time of the afternoon tea.
Her whole day was postponed so that she used to go on her morning ride with horse and carriage at the dinner time in the evening. She ate the supper after midnight and then she could sit up all night and have a good time with her ladies-in-waiting. The ladies, however, didn't always have a nice time.
They tried to stay awake in different ways, sometimes simply by knitting each other with the needles in the needlework. No one could retire for the night until the Queen had done so. Queen Désirée wanted to walk in the garden in the summer night, but was afraid of the bats, so she let her ladies-in-waiting walk first wearing white dresses to attract the animals.
The Queen spent many summers at Rosersberg Palace in Uppland. There she sat with her ladies-in-waiting on the veranda and had a nice time the whole night. When the first peasants came at five to deal with today's chores, they could see the Queen of Sweden on the balcony and admire her for being such an early bird. They didn't know that she would only soon go to bed.
Herman Lindqvist_ _Désirée var en morgontrött drottning_ _ Svensk Damtidning
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Popular historian Herman Lindqvist at his chronicle in Svensk Damtidning about queen Desideria
Some people are distinctive evening people, others are early risers. The same goes for royal families. King Carl XVI Gustaf is rarely really awake before ten o'clock in the morning, but all the better after ten o'clock in the evening.
The very first in the House of Bernadotte, Karl XIV Johan and Queen Désirée, were not good morning persons. Over the years, the king and queen met more and less frequently. They did not eat meals together. The Queen's morning rises became ever later in the day and gradually approached the time of the afternoon tea.
Her whole day was postponed so that she used to go on her morning ride with horse and carriage at the dinner time in the evening. She ate the supper after midnight and then she could sit up all night and have a good time with her ladies-in-waiting. The ladies, however, didn't always have a nice time.
They tried to stay awake in different ways, sometimes simply by knitting each other with the needles in the needlework. No one could retire for the night until the Queen had done so. Queen Désirée wanted to walk in the garden in the summer night, but was afraid of the bats, so she let her ladies-in-waiting walk first wearing white dresses to attract the animals.
The Queen spent many summers at Rosersberg Palace in Uppland. There she sat with her ladies-in-waiting on the veranda and had a nice time the whole night. When the first peasants came at five to deal with today's chores, they could see the Queen of Sweden on the balcony and admire her for being such an early bird. They didn't know that she would only soon go to bed.
Herman Lindqvist_ _Désirée var en morgontrött drottning_ _ Svensk Damtidning
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Poor ladies-in-waiting! Then again, I don't believe that Queen Desideria was too happy with her situation either.
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08-21-2019, 02:03 AM
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Today in Royal History is the 190th Anniversary of Queen Desideria's Coronation as Queen Consort of Sweden and Norway.
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I have recently been reading about Queen Desideria and I find her to be in interesting queen. Can someone please tell me why she went under the name of Countess of Gotland when giving parties in Paris?
I find her and Queen Kristina two of Europes most interesting queens. There must have been something in the Swedish water!
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In the water? Something very unpleasant then, because both Kristina and Desirée went into exile to the South...(where in summer all city water were notorious for their odeur..)
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The following video has nice pictures of Queen Desiree. Also there are some pictures from the movie Desiree.
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Did Desiree's reluctance create any issues?
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