Vietnam: the Imperial Nguyen and earlier dynasties

[Kasumi]

King Le Du Tong has been reburied in a formal ceremony by the Vietnamese communist government two days ago after his remains were unearthed 52 years ago by farmers in the province of Thanh Hoa in central Vietnam.
Le Du Tong was the 22nd king of the Le dynasty and reigned from 1705 to 1728, a period of general prosperity for the country. Since 1964 the monarch's remains were kept at the Vietnam History Museum before the reburial on the 23rd with the ceremony presided over by Buddhist clerics and surviving descendants of the Le Dynasty.
An article - MYsinchew.com
Another one with tiny photo - France24
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[nn9888]

Google books is a good resource.

Also - the book "The last emperors of Vietnam: from Tu Duc to Bao Dai" By Oscar Chapuis. It's available on google books, limited preview, and is helpful if one is looking for info on nephew-uncle relationships in the genealogy.

Nguyá»…n Lords - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The wikipedia page above, on the topic "Nguyễn Lords," has a family tree going back to the 1400s.

Note that google has a translator page, i.e. for French and Vietnamese sites; I've found it quite handy when digging for details. Google books also has books in the two languages.

One of the things I am curious about is genealogy resulting from Nguyen Dynasty family lines marrying into non-Vietnamese family lines -- for example French, Italian, and American.

[Kasumi]

The Ho Dynasty might have lasted only seven years, but parts of the family’s citadel built in Thanh Hoa province’s Vinh Loc district still stand. - Full article

[Kasumi]

A historical monument of the Nguyen Dynasty was recently unveiled to welcome visitors in Hue City.

The Tu Phuong Vo Su Pavilion located in Bac Khuyet Dai of Hue Royal Citadel, was where princes and princesses at the end of the Nguyen Dynasty studied. It was also a place for the kings and the royal family where they enjoyed the fresh air.
Built in 1923 under the reign of King Khai Dinh, the pavilion is among Vietnam’s special historical monuments with the combination between the oriental and western architectural styles. Experiencing many wars, only a small wall of the work with a 45-year existence period still remains now. - Full article with photos

v Tu Phuong Vo Su Pavilion
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[Kasumi]

There are 40 elephant hunters buried in the unique graveyard that has about 40 tombs. The hunters entombed there killed at least 25 to 30 elephants each. To be buried in the cemetery was a tribute to their huntsmanship.



The oldest tomb belongs to N’Thu Knul, who was a powerful tribal chief born in 1828. He is worshipped as founder of the art of hunting elephants. He also tamed hundreds of the big animals and presented one of them to the royal family in Thailand earning him the title of King of Elephant Hunters (Khunjunob) from the Thai King.- VietNam net

[tekintetes]

Hungarian doctor and writer Tibor Celler has received the hereditary title of Count from the Vietnamese Imperial House, however it is not clear who is the fons honorum in this case. Any idea?

[guyepennington]

Greetings! If it's a recent "ennoblement" from Imperial Vietnam, it's almost certainly from Buu Chanh, who is not the rightful successor to Bao Long, and who was removed from working with the Imperial family a few years back. As such, it would carry the same weight as if I ennobled someone -- that is to say, it is of limited intrinsic value. Burke's Peerage World Orders of Knighthood and Merit by Guy Stair Sainty has a good synopsis of the situation.

[tekintetes]

Thanks very much, it is very interesting. Dr. Celler publshed a book in Hungarian about the deposed royal families in the world and according to his book he received the title from the Vietnamese Imperial House, but no person was mentioned.

[rath soly]

Really interesting, and my appreciation toward everyone that put an effort to research all the information of the Royal, I think that the french have all the information about that,So far when i studied the history of the Indochina which was under the colony of France, the people of The Indochine was strife very hard to freed from the yoke of french, especially the people of Vietnam, Laos and Canbodia. Vietnam is previously called by french is "Anamites"refered to its people and nation, the larger population immigrated from China, and the, i 'd been confusion about their people sinced i was young which they called "Yaun"people in my camp, and it's not different from the french called them "Anamites"is more politely,and thier people are very deligently as i've seen nowday, and very easy to accustom with the other cultures and merged into the other groups of people as i am not confusing vietnam will be very powerful, later on.

[Kasumi]

Madame Nhu (a.k.a. Lady Dragon of Vietnam), former South Vietnam's first lady dies aged 87 at Rome on April 24th, 2011.
She was a greatgranddaughter of Emperor Đồng Khánh and a cousin once removed of Emperor Bảo Đại.
Madame Nhu - Telegraph
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/wo...hu.html?src=me

[Kasumi]

At the requiem for Mong Diep, the concubine of Vietnam’s last king Bao Dai, held in the ancient capital city of Hue on July 1, many people were attracted to an old lady, who kneeled in front of the altar for over one hour, with a respectful face.
The old lady is Mrs. Le Thi Dinh, maternal grandchild of Duke Ung Quyen (the younger brother of Kings Kien Phuc, Ham Nghi and Dong Khanh of the Nguyen Dynasty).
Dinh is also the one who is in charge of worshiping five Nguyen kings at the Kien Thai Vuong palace. Whenever a member in the royal family passes away, Dinh is responsible to organize requiems for them, up to the tradition of the royal family. - Source

See also VietNamNet - Vietnamese last king

[Kasumi]

An exhibition of historical jade statues will open in Hanoi on August 2.
The collection, entitled Vietnamese Antique Jade, includes more than 140 items, some of which are over a thousand years old.
They include jewelry, tools, royal seals, Buddha statues, swords and paintings studded with gems.
According to Dr. Nguyen Dinh Chien, the museum's assistant director, the items were part of collection owned by the Louis Finot Museum before 1954.
Many came from the the royal treasure of the Nguyen Dynasty, Vietnam's last monarchy. Vietnam’s last royal family handed the artifacts to the Vietnamese government in 1945.- Source

[Kasumi]

Imperial splendour

Often called the ‘belly button’ of Vietnam, Hue (pronounced as Hway) is the country’s midpoint. It used to be the imperial capital of the Nguyen dynasty and for more than 70 years it was under French rule, which has had a strong influence on its architecture and food.

Hue, the former Imperial capital
Images reproduced courtesy of Wikipedia under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license

[Nguyen Dynasties]

To : Timoléon de Carmain-Périllos, Special Assistant to His Imperial Highness Prince Nguyen-Phuc Buu Chanh of Vietnam, Duke of Kien Hoa, General Secretary of the Imperial Family Overseas Council (Paris) and President of the Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League (USA).

Dear Timoleon,
Long ago while Bao Dai was still king, my Grandma had attended his son's wedding, HRH Prince Bao Long.

I have a very commemorate stamp, to me it is precious and valuable, a stamp of one of the Crown Prince of Vietnam H. M. Bao-Dai, the last Vietnamese Emperor of the Nguyen Dynasty, whose nickname was Vinh-Thuy, was born at Hue in 1913. He was the 13th emperor since Gia-Long (1802-1819), the founder of the Nguyen Dynasty, which ruled the Vietnamese people during the 19th and first half of the 20th century (1802-1945). Bao-Dai was the son of Khai-Dinh and succeeded to his father's throne in 1925.
On March 24, 1934, he married a Catholic South Vietnamese girl named Jeanette Nguyen-Huu-Hao, the later Empress Nam-Phuong. She gave birth to two princes, Bao-Long, the crown prince and Bao-Thang, and three princesses: Phuong-Mai, Phuong-Lien, and Phuong-Dung. Empress Nam-Phuong died in France on September 19, 1963. On August 25, 1945, Bao-Dai abdicated when the communist Viet-Minh seized power. He then lived in exile in Hong Kong until 1949 when, with the support of the French, he returned as Chief of State.
On October 23, 1955, more than a year after the French defeat at Dien-Bien-Phu (on May 7, 1954) Bao-Dai was over thrown by a referendum and his Prime Minister Ngo-Dinh-Diem declared South Vietnam a Republic on October 26, 1955. Diem became its first president.
I. Indo-China
Portraits of Bao-Dai appear on many stamps on Indochina. A set of eleven, Scott #171-181, was issued in 1936 for use in Annam (Central Viet Nam). Two more stamps were issued in September and November 1942, Scott #233-234. One stamp portraying his wife, Empress Nam-Phuong, was issued September 1, 1942, Scott #216.
The last triennial Festival of Nam-Giao was held March 29, 1942. It was solemnly celebrated at Hue by Bao-Dai himself. Scott #213-214 depict a harnessed elephant on parade in front of Dan-Nam-Giao (Central podium of the festival celebration).



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I also want to add that Hoang Tu Bao Long, Hoang Tu Bao Thang, Phuong Mai, Phuong Lien, and Phuong Dung, are the five prince and pricesses of Vua BAo Dai and Hoang Hau Nam Phuonh .( Bao Dai's Empress) .. Bao long, the eldest of the two brothers has two children mixed with French Blood and Vietnamese. Bao Long, was married to a French Lady. When she passed away, he remarried to a Vietnamese lady, and at this wedding, my Grandma was invited to their ceremony in France.

I too , have always been fascinated and always loved to know that right now, ( although I know they reside in France ), that what the names of the continuing generations of the Nguyen's Bao Dai's Dynasty. Are you able to tell us, or do you know any much more of the family.

Ngo Dinh Diem, after becoming president, after King Bao Dai had elected him into his presidency, Ngo Dinh Diem, the first president, promised that he will be of great care to Crown Prince Bao Long, but he did not; therefore, he was betrayed, and what comes after this, I do not want to portray but as you can guess, it proves to say, since he voted and pushed the king to end his reign, so the generations of people did not respect him, and if you find out, he died not of old age, but of betrayal and his life ended after his run away hide from were he was in a church, and then he was forced in a car and that was his final day. I really did not want to add this part in, but it shows that the people really loved our king, but our king, too was forced to end his reign, in such a sad way, that it's lkind of like " what goes around, comes around, and or the lesson is " do unto other's as what you would like do unto you..." so.. I am only happy to know so much about Bao Dai, and that his remaining four children who are residing in France, are still alive, and they are still Monarchs and Imperial Highnesses to me. The Nguyen Dynasty will always last because the Nguyen last name is so rich and dwells a lot in the hearts and lives of many, so many people carry this kingdom name, and I am proud and so happy it is but still around. I heard from a Father at church, he said to all of us,

"We are but prince and princesses here on earth becuase we all are and are children of the highest king, the Lord."
. I have the Crown Prince Bao Long's Stamp.

[Kasumi]

Vietnam latest news - Thanh Nien Daily | Emperor's nephew remembers Tet in the royal palace
Nguyen Phuoc Bao Hien, 85, who calls the Nguyen Dynasty Emperor Duy Tan (1900-1945) uncle, still remembers the old days when he attended Tet holiday celebrations in the royal palace in Hue Town.
The old man, whose father is Nguyen Phuoc Vinh Vu, younger brother of the emperor, now lives in a small house near the An Lang relic site, where he spent his childhood with his grandmother and his grandfather’s 22 concubines. The site is a place where three emperors of the Nguyen Dynasty - Duc Duc, Thanh Thai, and Duy Tan are worshipped.

[Kasumi]

VietNamNet - Embroidery artisans restore imperial mantles

To make an imperial mantle, artisans of Dong Cuu village have worked for a year.

[khaib]

Hi,

I'm writing a profile on Bao Dai - the last king of vietnam. I would like to know your opinion of him. I would like to know what you thought of him at the time esp. if you were a vietnamese subject. Could he have been wiser in his dealing with the French, foreign powers. Was there ever an opportunity for him to gain freedom for Vietnam without warfare? Could he have changed the course of the war?

I will use your comments in my essay without your name

Thank you

[Baroncabodifalco]

Originally Posted by Kasumi

VietNamNet - Embroidery artisans restore imperial mantles

I would like to thank Kasumi for this website and news. Although brief, it indicates that there are surviving royal costumes of the Nguyen Dynasty. In many respects, these dragon robes have many features of the Ming and Qing Dynasty robes.

I wonder if the mantle (worn by women) was actually worn by male or female courtiers.

Rgds Victor

[LeJardin]

I remember my friend married a Nguyen. She said that her mother-in-law almost ended up a concubine of the King, the law was unmarried by 16th birthday, you belong to him. Hûe looks like an imperial garden city the mini bridges and pounds everywhere tell you that less then 150 years ago it must have been an amazing place.

[RealityToday]

I've been reading many news ,

Since 2000 and during President Obama's presidency to now , President TRUMP's , 2017,

I'm wondering how THE MONARCHY LEAGUE OF VIETNAM is doing???

I'd like to see more news ( photos and images ) on THE MONARCHY and its works , and has the President or Prince Regent visited the Country to maybe " bring the country of two nations together " ..
Where as citizens around the world and citizens of Vietnam can see Vietnam come together again..

I know we now have Princes in America , ( residing in California , Florida , etc .) and the youngest Prince in France ... 👍🏼

I truly hope and wish the Best to the Nation , ( Country of VN ) and like Cambodia or even Korea, they will be undivided and install their MONARCHY again,
Which I know , by all good means, is possible through praying...and wishing hard enough...

May both flags unite one day, for the colors still remain the same , therefore Vietnam's Nation ( Cpuntry ) hasn't changed ( its colors ), in hoping that Both Leaders from both worlds can bring a powerfully magical embracing unity of a Beautiful Country To maybe even have a mix government, or a whole Nation as One, with both leaders working together...


" Only Time will prove the hard work and willingness " and nowadays Just about everything good is possible !"

* July 2017

Please update us any new news on the Works that is happening where and abouts of The MONARCHY LEAGUE of Vietnam ..

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