Turkey: The Ottoman Empire - House of Osman

[sancakli70]

Originally Posted by Arvind

How can I get in touch with her? I would like to interview her for a documentary.

Arvind Acharya
New ROchelle, NY

With which princess?

[Arvind]

Originally Posted by sancakli70

With which princess?

With Princess Nilhan Osmanoglu.

I am working on a documentary of Princess Niloufer. You can see on of my articles about a brooch:
Princess Niloufer?s fascinating brooch

Best,
Arvind

[sancakli70]

- The Hanim Sultan of the United Nations

[ShaneKPONeill]

Originally Posted by Bonbon

Hi
Suleyman is touched because she chooses to be a muslim, but being muslim is not the sign of freedom. Padishah needs to set her free because she is still a concubin. The thing is after being muslim she can not be with him without being married religiously. This is the trick. Lots of historians agree that she became muslim to get married to Suleyman but we can not be absolutely sure about that.
No Hurrem was not the first but she is the one in favour of Padishah and the one who converted. Not all concubins can be with Padishah, so not all convertions of concubins matter.

Valide Sultans are muslim but they are not particulary have a concubin origin. They may born in a muslim family. They are generaly daughters of noble families.

No you are right they can keep their religion, no one could ever force them to convert. Forcing someone to convert is against islamic belief. Besides, they are not that slaves, if they don't want to stay in palace they can asked to be married. They get married with high ranking soldiers or pashahs anytime they want.

Hurrem is the first concubin to be married to a Padishah but before Suleyman and Hurrem there are several Padishahs who got married. But they married with daughters of noble families not with concubins. Pretty complicated the Ottoman Empire

Hi Bonbon,

I realise you posted this a very long time ago so I hope you're still around.

I have a question about what you said above. Can I deduce from this that odalisques in the seraglio, or harem, were all non-Muslim and on that note, all slaves from other countries?

Some sources say that Mehmed's mother, Hüma Hatun, was such a woman, though other sources say she was from Anatolia, but my understanding from all my research is that she was of the seraglio.

Could you, or anyone else, please give me some clarification on this?

Many thanks.

[feyza.oz]

Originally Posted by ShaneKPONeill

Hi Bonbon,

I realise you posted this a very long time ago so I hope you're still around.

I have a question about what you said above. Can I deduce from this that odalisques in the seraglio, or harem, were all non-Muslim and on that note, all slaves from other countries?

Some sources say that Mehmed's mother, Hüma Hatun, was such a woman, though other sources say she was from Anatolia, but my understanding from all my research is that she was of the seraglio.

Could you, or anyone else, please give me some clarification on this?

Many thanks.

Hi,
i Know that the last 100 years the womens are from caucasus ( Muslim womans)

[ShaneKPONeill]

Thank you for responding. I'm focused most on the mid-15th Century, though, and my question relates to that period.

[sancakli70]

Happy Birthday to Princess Nilüfer

[sancakli70]

Happy birthday th prince mehmet ziyaeddin

[sancakli70]

An article about prince orhan
ÅžEHZADE ORHAN OSMANOÄžLU

[Frozen Royalist]

I am wondering Erdogan's presidency and Neo-Ottomanism will lead to a possibility of an Ottoman Sultanate/Kingdom of Turkey in the future. Although I think it would be more likely to be under the House of Erdogan or some new dynasty then a restored House of Osman. As much of a fan of the Osmans I am, I think they have been absent from Turkey for too long. Although I am concerned that in the possibility of a restored or new Turkish monarchy how would ethnic Kurds living in the nation react and would they go along with it.

-Frozen Royalist

[Countessmeout]

House of Erdogan? You are talking about creating a completely new royal house?

Why would they create a monarchy with the republican president as king? That would be like France becoming a monarchy and making the House of Macron?? What would be the point? No country is going to revert back to a monarch as the actual head of state. Figure head possibly, but governing. So why would you make a royal house based on the most recently elected president?

The point of a monarchy would be to carry on tradition. And tradition would be to reinstate the royal house.

Even if the Turks, including their Kurd population, wanted to restore a monarchy, wouldn't be very simple. The succession process in Turkey is not very clear cut.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_o...Ottoman_throne

This is based on agnatic seniority which was commonly practiced.

[JR76]

Well if the House of Osman was to regain their throne it wouldn't be that difficult to choose a monarch since the headship of the house seems to be passed along quite smoothly at the death of the former head. This is also a system of inheritance used in Saudi Arabia where the throne has been inherited between brothers since 1953. Regarding creating new monarchies, while I find it highly improbable, we have North Korea where a sort of quasi monarchical republican system have developed and have led to three generations of the same family ruling the country since the middle of the last century.

[feyza.oz]

i dont think that this will happens.

[sancakli70]

http://www.yenisafak.com/gundem/sehz...ktilar-2894489
The live about the current head in syris

[sancakli70]

President erdogan meets some royal memberw of the royal family in France
Sürpriz davet: Osmanlı hanedanı üyelerini ağırladı - GÜNCEL Haberleri, Haber7

[sancakli70]

Princes s Nilhan Sultan receives an event on the hotspital which poend by his gread grand father in istanbul.
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[sancakli70]

Prince Selim Osmanoglu in Amasya
https://www.yenisafak.com/gundem/osm...apacak-3048167

[PeteSour]

The info in this thread is valuable for my historical college essay. Lucky I am, That was worth reading for the brainstorming with my topic

[sancakli70]

Today ist the 100th death anniversaey of sultan Abdulhamid han (red Sultan for the europe). Some members comes to Turkey.
Abdülhamid’in torunları 12 yıl sonra bir arada - Son Dakika Haberler
https://www.cnnturk.com/turkiye/olum...amid-etkinligi
2'nci Abülhamid'in torunlar? ?stanbul?da bulu?tu - Son Dakika Haberler
https://youtu.be/zxzhJU4kasQ

[sancakli70]

News from today: the turkish foreign minister meets some members of the imperial family
Çavuşoğlu hanedan üyeleriyle buluştu - Haberler