Royalty of Macedonia

[Next Star]

Hmm I wonder if this thing will pan out only time will tell if the monarchy gets restored.

[Johann Salvator]

This is fascinating! I had no idea of the short-lived Grand Duchy of Macedonia and of the Cseszneky family. It helps that it was not a nazy puppet state, quite the opposite.
I hope Count Cseszneky accepts the challenge and claims the crown.

If it's not the case, I humbly suggest that the Macedonian Monarchist League look at the 19 century example. I am not a big fan of 'national monarchies', if there are descendants of a local royal family good, but if they are not I think that a foreign prince is an excellent option.
Macedonia is struggling, not only with a weak economy and democracy but also with its own identity surrounded by Greece, Serbia and Albania and with some political parties clearly supporting those countries' agendas.
It might seem odd, but it worked before in Belgium, Norway, Sweden, Greece, etc... when a prince from a foreign family united the country and avoided rivalry betwwen local nobles and politicians. Even more those princes were not supposed to marry to a local person to avoid threatening the loyalty to the family by jealousy between the local elites.

I believe a foreign prince will give prestige to the crown and a lot of much needed visibility and stability to the nation.
We all due respect I had an excellent candidate for Macedonia: HIRH Archduke Georg.

[Cory]

Arckduke George does not seem to be interested in any restoration and I suppose he had never been to Macedonia.

[shari-aree]

^^^^ With the Aid of DNA & criminal records, someone could be 'ruled in' due to bloodlines and 'ruled out' due to not being suitable!

So the best possible person who is also the closest relation could 'rule' !!!

[Pindo]

Dear Forum partners; Greetings!
My name is Andres Omar Ayala d'Valva, by the grace of God Prince of the Pindus and Duke of Macedonia.
The Principality and the Grand Duchy was also known as Pindo or Pindos, sometimes Pindus and Moglena; Македонски - Пиндско - Македонско кнежевство , Aromanian: Printsipat di la Pind; Greek: Πριγκιπάτο της Πίνδου; Italian: Principato del Pindo) was an autonomous state set up under Italian and later German control in northwest Greece in the regions of Epirus, Thessaly and West Macedonia during World War II. It was proclaimed during the Italian occupation of northern Greece in the summer of 1941 as the fatherland of ethnic Aromanians(Macedon Armn )and the Endopi Makedonci , but was never able to assert itself over the local population until its de facto disbandment in 1944. The capital of the statelet was Metsovo (Aminciu in Aromanian), but the national assembly sat in Trikala.
After a long legal battle by the heirs of Prince Alcibiades (because the last will of the Duke Anstasios Diamandi, my grandfather), the titles of "Prince of Pindus" and "Duke of Macedonia" were reinstated. HRH Andres Omar Ayala, Prince of Pindus and the Duke of Macedonia, direct descendant of the family Diamandi from the mother lineage and the current owner of all titles and honors of the Princely House.
The Princely House of Pindus and Macedonia have no diplomatic relations with the current government and has no territorial ambitions on its former dominions, or seek any recognition of them.
There is no doubt that the Prince of Pindus and the Duke of Macedonia has the rights and Ius honorum majestatis, the right to grant titles of nobility and Honorary Orders of Knighthood of the Dynastic Heritage of Princely and Ducal House.
To God be the Glory!

[MOMCE]

Originally Posted by salonica

Sorry but there is no Kingdom of Macedonia.
In fact the only kingdom Macedonia had was the one of the Great Alexander and he was GREEK. There is no country called Macedonia.
Check out books of history in all Universities of the world.

Yes there was a Kingdom of Macedonia and its origin is actually controversial so no you check out the history books. :)

Personally I take the intermediate position on Macedonia so an Indo-European ruler would be ideal where subjects enjoy all their heterogeneous rights by special decrees and royal assent.

[VasilliLobanov]

I work with a Monarchist page on Facebook and we try to keep the fake royals off the page and, when necessary, exposing their fraud.

Recently I came across a fellow presenting himself as Prince Cosimo, Head of the Royal House of Macedonia. Frankly, I know almost nothing about the Royal history of the country. I would be quite grateful if someone competent in this area would enlighten me.

My "gut" tells me that this guy is a fake but I would be horrified to accidentally insult a genuine royal who is simply working for his homeland.

Anyone know anything about Prince Cosimo of Macedonia?

Best wiahes,

Vasilli

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[salonica]

Please see this video

Kiro Gligorov - We are Slavs - YouTube

That is the only truth

[VasilliLobanov]

I didn't know there was a disagreement about whether or not the Macedonians were Slavs. Old Macedonian (closely related to Old Church Slavonic is a proto Slavic language (my memory is not clear but it could be that Old Macedonian is THE proto Slavic language or even one of the second generation languages from the Pan Indo-European languages but, as I say, my memory is somewhat "fuzzy" on the subject.

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[Qutus123]

How would Macedonian monarchists feel about a branch of the House of Karađorđević coming to rule Macedonia. Such as Prince Dimitri of Yugoslavia son of recently departed Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia (two ancient royal Macedonian names).

I don’t know much about the history of Yugoslavia, so I’m not sure if there was any “tensions” between Serbs and Macedonians that were so bad that it rules the House out though.