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07-24-2006, 05:12 AM
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Original Iolani Palace
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07-24-2006, 05:15 AM
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07-24-2006, 05:21 AM
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Queen Emma (wife ok Kamehameha IV)
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07-24-2006, 05:28 AM
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07-24-2006, 05:36 AM
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07-24-2006, 05:37 AM
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Regalia
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08-04-2006, 06:15 AM
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wow, i'm so intrigued! do u think there might be a return to this monarchy?
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08-08-2006, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tete
wow, i'm so intrigued! do u think there might be a return to this monarchy?
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Unfortunately, because Hawai'i is firmly a part of the US, it is unconstitutional for any kind of monarchy or nobility to be restored. However, I have always thought that the state should consider a way to recognise the monarchy as a symbol of state unity and heritage.
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The Queen of Hawaii attended Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee. Unfortunately, many of the Royals were racial snobs and would not sit next to the lady!
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Fortunately, HM Victoria was as ever the model of royal perfection, having friends of many colours.
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08-19-2006, 12:33 AM
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I just came back from Hawai'i and I finally visited Iolani Palace! Now I know that every culture is different and Hawai'i is tiny but the palace isn't so much a palace but a nice big house (the pictures on the first page of this thread make it seem a lot bigger). It pales in comparison to it's European counterparts. I had to wear these booties to help preserve the palace floors but it was really interesting to finally go inside. The crystal panes in the front doors were supposed to be Hawaiian ladies but the people who created them were from California and did not know what Hawaiians looked like so they used their imagination: Greek goddesses (it was actually sad and funny at the same time looking at these window panes that were supposed to be exotic beauties).
Also on display is Queen Liliuokalani's quilt which she made during her days as a prisoner. It's a beautiful quilt which the Queen gave to a family friend. A couple years back the descendants of this family donated the quilt so that it would have some purpose besides being locked up inside a safe.
This is my favorite story the tour guide told my family. Queen Liliuokalani was invited to Queen Victoria's (Silver or Golden Jubilee, can't remember) and the stylist back in the day told the Queen and the Princess that they couldn't compete with Western royalty in Western designs. So this stylist suggested a peacock dress. I guess during those days people kept peacocks as pets so servants went around telling people that peacocks were bad luck to get the peacocks for the dress. The peacocks were plucked and a dress was made that weighed 35 pounds! I guess she really did stand out in London  .
I guess this is the official website for Iolani Palace: http://www.iolanipalace.org/index.html
The Hawaiian monarchy is actually a really sad story. It didn't last very long and had a depressing ending.
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08-19-2006, 03:51 PM
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I just came back from Hawai'i and I finally visited Iolani Palace! ...
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That's a really nice story, SoCal girl. I would love to see Queen Liliuokalani in the peacock dres!!
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08-28-2006, 06:17 PM
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What was the name of HM Queen Liliuokalani husband?
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Someone probably already answered this, but he was John Owen Dominis, Prince Consort of Hawai'i. After she was deposed, Queen Liliuokalani was simply known as "Mrs. Dominis".
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The Hawaiian monarchy is actually a really sad story. It didn't last very long and had a depressing ending.
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It is sad that the United States felt that it had right to a country so far away from the mainland. However, the state and people of Hawai'i do recognise the kingdom as an important part of the history and culture, which continues to this day. The coat of arms for the state (state seal) is only slightly altered, and the flag chosen by Kamehameha is still used.
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08-28-2006, 07:28 PM
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It is sad that the United States felt that it had right to a country so far away from the mainland.
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Yes, just like Britain with Gibraltar, Australia, India, The Bahamas, Barbados, Grenada, etc etc etc.....
Sorry, but the wording of that statement is a bit too political IMO.
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03-14-2007, 09:11 PM
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It is sad that the United States felt that it had right to a country so far away from the mainland.
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It is indeed sad, but the coup that deposed Queen Liliuokalani was not initiated by the United States Government so much as the Sugar Tycoons who derived their riches from the islands of Hawaii. They were tired of answering to a foreign head of state, and their aggression against the monarchy began during the reign of King Kalakaua (Liliuokalani's brother, whom she succeeded).
Eventually they were able to sway over to their side an envoy from the US, who enlisted the aide of US Naval regiments stationed on the islands, in storming Iolani Palace, deposing the monarchy, and declaring a provisional government. With no military to speak of, the Hawaiians were powerless to stop them, and Queen Liliuokalani eventually ended up a prisoner in her own palace.
President Cleveland had no advance knowledge of what happened, nor did he support it. He sent representatives to assess the situation, who returned with scathing reports, condemning the unwarranted actions taken by those who misused America's name and power against a nation which had to that point been an ally of the US. He issued an order that the provisional government step down and that the Hawaiian monarchist government be allowed to return. When faced with the choice of sending Americans to fight other Americans (the renegade forces whom by now had barracaded themselves inside Iolani Palace, refusing to surrender), Cleveland unfortunately lost his nerve and backed down. Though Cleveland refused to do so during his presidency, the United States eventually annexed Hawaii and the kingdom became a territory.
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11-29-2007, 08:00 PM
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On November 23, 1993, fourteen years ago, United States finally apologized for the illegal overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawai`i, and recognized the inherent sovereignty, and right of self-determination of the Kanaka Maoli people.
On Feburary 22, 1998, Majesty Akahi Nui, supposed grandnephew of Queen Liliuokalani, was coronated as the King of the Hawaiian Nation at the I'olani Palace. He apparently holds the Kingdom of Hawaii Diplomatic passport , supposedly recognized internationally, and allegedly signed treatises with other nations.
I've heard about this guy and the only people who recognize them are those who are involved with Free Hawai'i not Nation of Hawai'i or OHA (latter I support.)
Of course we all know that those from the Kawananakoa line are the rightful heirs to the Hawaiian throne.
Here is a photo of Akahi.
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11-30-2007, 01:43 PM
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lady anne
In response to all with questions on Hawaiian Royalty, there is more than a good chance that there will be some type of governing system in Hawaii for the Kanaka Maoli. The island of Kahoolawe is being prepared for the Hawaiian people and the governing entities. This island that used to be used for target practice will be the new home for those kanaka maoli who wish to follow the constitution of Hawaii written by Kamehameha III. There will not be a King and Queen though, only a governing head. I do not foresee Akahi Nui or the Kawananakoas in that position as there are way too many people that do not recognize them as rulers. Neither can prove absolute lineage that would be acceptable. The current Kawananakoas were adopted by that family and Akahi is as they say here " waha ", all mouth. Besides there are more than a few families here that could be considered legitimate rulers, not just 1. The royal line is quite extensive.
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11-30-2007, 02:06 PM
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Aloha Kakahiaka and e komo mai, Lady Anne. I completely agree with you, unfortunately, full restoration will likely never happen. Nonetheless, it is good to know that the movement and pride is growing stronger everyday (as my Tutu would say, `Onipa`a. )
It's been almost 17 years since the last bombings on Kaho`olawe. From what I know, is not going to be used for future governing entities. Currently, it is still be cleaned up by Kaho`olawe Island Reserve Commission which will continue malama ka 'aina.
What are your thoughts regarding the Akaka Bill?
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11-30-2007, 03:11 PM
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lady anne
Well Aloha Kakahiaka to you as well. As far as I know, Sol Kahoohalahala has stated that parts of the island will be ready and inhabitable by the time the recognition bill or Akaka Bill is passed. As for the Bill, I never have agreed with it . It puts the Kanaka Maoli in the same category as Native Americans which they are not. And if you think about it Kahoolawe is the perfect " reservation " dont you think?
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11-30-2007, 03:20 PM
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How much do you know about the island of Kaho'olawe?
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