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07-04-2011, 08:13 AM
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Two examples of classic Wallachian architecture - The Mogosoaia Palace and the Mihai Voda Church
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07-18-2011, 01:13 PM
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Vlad Tepes had a brother called Radu "the Beautiful". He reigned as Radu III, Voivode of Walachia, and replaced his brother, when Vlad Tepes was killed in 1476. The two brothers became estranged because Radu supported the Ottoman Sultan. Some accounts say that Sultan Mehmet II and Radu were lovers during Radu & Vlad's early confinement in Turkey. Radu is described as having black hair and magnificent blue eyes. Radu later had a daughter. Vlad Tepes had a son, Minhea I "the Bad"- seems he might have inherited some of his father's traits!.The Basarab dynasty continued in the male line till the 17th century. The last two Voivodes of this family were Mihai II Radu, a desdendant of Vlad Tepes, and Constantin, a descendant of Dan II (the Danesti). Mihai had two sisters who married Hospidars of Moldavia. Constantin had a sister Helena, who married Constantin Cantacuzene. I believe that the Basarab dynasty is now represented by the Cantacuzene family, but I stand to be corrected. Voivodes descended in the female line from the Basarabs reigned till the 19th century when Wallachia was united with Moldavia to from the United Principality of Romania, later the Kingdom of Romania. The present king, Mihai (Michael) Hohenzollern, can claim descent in the female line from the Basarabs. You can get the pedigree of the Basarab dynasty at www.genealogy.euweb.cz/balkan/basarab.html. The progenitor was either a Bulgarian boyar, or a Mongol Khan. I don't know if there are any male-line descendants of the Basarab family left. I have read that A Romanian artist who died in the era of the communist dictator Nicolae Ceaucescu, was the last of the male ine of the Basarabs- I don't know if this is true.
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07-20-2011, 02:50 PM
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Hi Cory and Anastasia Anna. David Hughes (The British Chronicles Vol 2) says there is a surviving male line of descent from Vlad "Tepes" through his son Mihnea "the Bad". It goes as follows: Mihnea I "cel Rau" d. 1510[m.(1)Smaranda Szapolya]; his son Mircea III d. 1521 [m. Despina of Moldavia]; his younger son Petru III "Schiopul" d. 1594 [m.(3) Maria Gronitz]; his son Mircea V d. 1640 [m. Erzsebet of Hungary]; his son Bogdan "Tsepes" d. 1654 [m. Katalin Racoczy]; his son Bogdan Tsepes d. 1672 [m. Ilona Apafi]; his son Radu XV r. 1688-89,1699; his son Vlad IX(X) r. 1724; his son Mircea Tsepes d. 1750 [m.(2) Gavrilla Radescu]; his son Mihnea Tsepes d. 1778 [m.Maria Tsanblac]; his son Alexandru Tsepes d. 1811 [m. Elena Moruzi]; his son Petru Tsepes d. 1845 [m. Vera Cuza de Vijez]; his son Arkady Tsepes [m. Mary Windham]; his son Stefan George Tsepes. Stefan has 2 sons, Petru and Mircea, and a daughter Elena. Petru would be the head of this family if he is still alive. Stefan had 2 uncles Stefan and George Tsepes, Arkady had 2 uncles, Alexandru d. 1850, and Radu d. 1855. I don't know the details of the descendants of these men.
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07-20-2011, 06:05 PM
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Thank you for the information,it would be great if some analysis implying DNA could be done.Is it exactly known that Mihnea was his son?
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07-21-2011, 09:31 AM
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Hi Lenore. Mihnea cel Rau was the son of Vlad IV "Tepes" by his first wife, a Transylvanian lady whose name has been lost. He followed the same anti-Ottoman Pro- Christian policies as his father, and like his dad,was unpopular with the Boyars. DNA tests would have to be done on the remains of known princes of the Basarab dynasty. I am not sure where Vlad is buried. He was beheaded after being killed in 1476.
If have further information on this family: the name of the wife of Radu XV who reigned briefly from 1688-89, and again briefly in 1699 was Anna. His son, Vlad IX/X was married to Maria of Arolash. I have read that Stefan George Tsepesh, son of Arkady Tsepesh, married a lady named Ladyell Macasa Hintryll. Their three children were born in 1880, 1882, and 1884 respectively. I have no information on what happened to these children or who their descendants might be. They would all have died around 1950-1960 like my late grandfather.
You might be interested to know that this family- descended from Vlad "Tepes" was one scary family! No less than THREE wives committed suicide;
1. Vlad "Tepes" first wife threw herself from the tower of Poenari castle in 1462, to avoid being captured by Turkish Janissaries.
2. Zsusza Rosetti, the first wife of Mircea Tsepes (son of Vlad IX/X) committed suicide in about 1719.
3. Elena Moruzzi, wife of Alexandru Tsepes (grandson of Mircea Tsepes) committed suicide in 1795.
4. Mary Windham, the English wife of Arkady Tsepesh, is said to have shot her husband in self defence, after her started behaving strangely towards her and their newborn son, Stefan George Tsepesh. This happened in 1845. She remarried (Professor Jan van Helsing). Stefan George was raised by his stepfather. Before the death of his father Petru, Arkady was charming and he and Mary enjoyed a very happy marriage in England- until they returned to the family estate in Transylvania, following the death of Petru Tsepesh. The family seems to have been cursed in some manner.
This family- descended from Vlad "Tepes", bore the title Printul/Principe Tsepesh-Dracul(a), according to a Spanish website. This title was born by the head of the family in each generation.
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07-22-2011, 02:30 PM
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Bram Stoker, author of the famous vampire novel about Count Dracula based his fictitious chararcters on the lives of the real family descended from Petru III "Schiopul". It is very important to separate fact from fiction. Some of the information you will read on the internet about the Princes Tsepesh-Dracul is fictitious. However there is a real family descended from Petru III. which was still flourishing at the end of the 19th century.Anyone who wants more information on this family should contact David Hughes, author of The British Chronicles. His pedigree of the Voivodes of Wallachia is much more detailed and authoritative than any other I have seen. Most lists of the Voivodes donot include ALL the Voivodes, some of whom only reigned for a year, of even a few weeks. The Ottoman Sultans undermined the power of the Voivodes which is why they came and went so frequently. The Basarab dynasty lost power by the end of the 17th century, however the Basarab family DIDNOT BECOME EXTINCT. You can contact him on RdavidH218@AOL.com.
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07-25-2011, 05:04 AM
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A lady by the name of COSMINA TSEPESH posted a thread on ANCESTRY.COM in 2008. She is requesting information about her family and relatives - she claims direct descent from Vlad "Tepes". From her surname, I suspect that she might be a descendant of Petru III "Shiopul", Voivode of Wallachia (died 1594). She could even be a descendant of either Petru Tsepesh, or Mircea Tsepesh who were born in the 1880s and, according to David Hughes, have documented descent from Mircea V, son of Petru III, and through him from Vlad IV "Tepes". I replied to her post, but since she posted that message three years ago, I don't know if she has read/received my reply. If anyone can help, let us know?
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12-31-2011, 12:06 PM
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What country is Walachia in at the moment?
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12-31-2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Benedict XVI
What country is Walachia in at the moment?
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It's part of romania isn't it ?
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12-31-2011, 03:23 PM
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Ok thank you I knew it was in that general area.
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01-13-2012, 05:06 PM
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Vlad the impaler
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11-17-2014, 07:01 PM
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Radu III (Radu the Handsome) was allowed to live in the newly built Topkapi Palace in Istanbul.
He was a commander of the Janissary.
The Janissaries were elite infantry units that formed the Ottoman Sultan's household troops and bodyguards.
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08-23-2022, 07:21 PM
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Mircea I participated in the Hungarian king Sigismund's anti-Turkish crusade.
Illustration of Mircea I the Elder
http://www.alamy.com/mircea-i-the-el...187846426.html
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